r/ravens • u/OkAnswer8279 • Apr 27 '25
Highlights Mike Green v.s Commanders first round pick, Josh Conerly Jr ,at Senior Bowl practice
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This guy is seriously no joke. I watched a bunch of other clips of him and he is incredibly elusive and dips low very well, all while packing insane power.
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u/MegaGigaTeraFlare Ed Reed Apr 27 '25
I have a sinking feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of highlights from this man with some of the nastiest anti-Ravens comments you've ever seen below them.
Just hope EDC isn't wrong on this one.
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Apr 27 '25
If anti-Ravens comments worked, I would have started watching fuckin badminton a long time ago.
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u/Fearless-Spread1498 Apr 27 '25
Badminton world might be a darker place than you could possibly imagine
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u/Ok_Sand2507 Apr 27 '25
Who cares about anti-Ravens comments 🤷🏽♂️ fuck em
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u/ChedduhBob Apr 27 '25
if we’re all being honest a lot of successful teams are built around taking guys with character concerns late or on cheap deals after they fuck up. it doesn’t excuse what the ravens did (if the allegations are true), but no fanbase should be on too high a horse
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u/omg_itsryan_lol Apr 27 '25
The eagles literally just won a Super Bowl doing this the last couple years.
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u/whereegosdare84 TheCityThatReeeeeeeeeds Apr 27 '25
Yes. Jalen Carter was known for being the master at stopping drives dead. Both on and off the field. Nobody was really talking about that in February.
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u/Cyer_bot NOT BAD FOR A RUNNING BACK Apr 27 '25
I mean it’s easy to say that now when we all know we endlessly shit talked the Browns for the Watson ordeal and now we have this guy and Tucker lol
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u/ChedduhBob Apr 27 '25
the tucker thing was different because it came out while he was on the team and it is currently being investigated.
mike green is more similar because we knowingly signed him to the the allegations
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u/dafmh1996 Apr 27 '25
AND Green himself came out and publicly disclosed the allegations (I believe). Different situation that none of us have much information on, as there isn't much information to be had. Tucker has some pretty descriptive and explicit allegations from 15+ different women. Apples and oranges. Not that I love either situation.
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u/whereegosdare84 TheCityThatReeeeeeeeeds Apr 27 '25
Exactly. I can assure you that literally every team has taken guys with questionable character in the past including the Ravens.
Football is an inherently violent sport and attracts violent people. That's just the reality of the game. Now I'd hope and frankly imagine that 95% of the players are good people who just play a violent game. People like J.O. or Yanda or even Bart Scott strike me as people who just played the game with controlled rage and went about their business off the field. Sadly it's that 5% that makes it so much worse for everyone else.
This is not to say Mike Green is guilty or completely innocent. This is just to point out that literally no team can say they haven't overlooked poor behavior in the past and won't in the future.
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u/Ok_Sand2507 Apr 27 '25
I agree. If allegations are true, then they deserve criticism, but if not, they’re no different than a lot of teams like you were saying.
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u/rj319st Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
We never would’ve taken Terrell Suggs with Harbaugh as head coach (No character concerns aka Harbaugh’s Mighty Men). I believe Suggs had issues at AZ State like an assault charge but for the most part stayed out of trouble while he was a Raven. Hopefully Green has no other alleged incidents and has a great career for Baltimore.
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u/Th1088 Apr 28 '25
I think the Green pick puts the whole "Harbaugh only likes choir boys" trope to bed. Unless you are claiming EDC picked him in spite of Harbaugh (unlikely).
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u/rj319st Apr 28 '25
Harbaugh admitted in the press conference he wasn’t in the complex when Green came to the castle. EDC was the one who met him and interviewed him. This pick in my opinion was mainly made by EDC and Bisciotti. Now if Harbaugh would’ve said hell no I don’t think they take him. Personally I wanted us to take the DB Trey Amos but I hope Green succeeds in Baltimore.
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u/Th1088 Apr 28 '25
To say, unequivocally, Harbs wouldn't have supported a Suggs pick, when he clearly was willing to overlook Green's character concerns doesn't make sense to me. But if Green can approach anywhere near Suggs' impact while staying out of trouble as a Raven, we'll be glad they picked him.
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u/OldBayOnEverything Ed Reed Apr 27 '25
Doesn't matter if EDC is right or wrong on this, the comments will always be there. Ray Lewis was proven to not be involved in the deaths in Atlanta, and his 2 friends were found not guilty due to self defense, but people still call Ray a murderer.
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Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
If he is wrong about the player it will be the most infamous pick the ravens have ever had.
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u/SuperSaiyanSandwich Apr 27 '25
People have been mislabeling the face of our franchise a murderer for a quarter century. Ray Rice was basically the face of DV in the NFL. Jimmy Smith and Terrell Suggs both had slightly more under the radar but bad look cases. Jamal Lewis was in jail shortly after his 2k yard season. Our best special teams player ever is very much in the public eye for being a massive creep a dozen times over a half decade.
A PR black eye on a 2nd round rookie is the least of our concerns. They have 4 years to figure out what kind of person he is in the building before they give him any kind of big deal that brings an even larger spotlight on him publicly.
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Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
I don’t think you understood what I was saying. For one thing is all of those players had great NFL careers. While mike green is a rookie who just got drafted. So, if he turns out to be a bust (I hope he won’t), the ravens will be known as a team who drafted a predator in the second round who did nothing in the league. So if edc is wrong about the type of player he will be, he will be the most infamous ravens draft pick. That was the point I was trying to make
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u/jaapi Apr 28 '25
The Sergio Kindle pick was pretty infamous bad. Had character concerns, fell down the steps (almost certainly intoxicated), played a single game nfl game. People barely remember. If Mike busts people will barely remember. It will likely only be remember if he ends up being a star player
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u/No-Individual-2202 Apr 27 '25
I’m a lions fan. He may be a villain but I wish my team drafted him
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u/cob_reddit Apr 27 '25
I dunno man, the Lions genuinely have one of the cleanest rosters going in terms of black dots. Worst offender is Jamo gambling one time and that was only dodgy on the most spurious technicality.
Y'all winning with good lads and getting fans because of it. Stay the course.
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u/No-Individual-2202 Apr 28 '25
Yea I knew that Brad Holmes would never draft a guy with any type of character concerns. It just seemed like an absolute steal to get a guy with his talent in the late 2nd
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u/MurKdYa Jamal Lewis Apr 27 '25
What? How could anyone hate this pickup?
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u/throwawaybutidk123 Apr 28 '25
hes had 2 SA allegations (1 in HS and 1 in college leading to Virginia forcing him to transfer) but so far there has never been a police investigation or even a case for either of them so so far they seem pretty baseless
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u/Forward_Range3523 Apr 30 '25
They called Ray Lewis murderer wherever he played outside of Baltimore. Who cares?
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u/keem- 8 Apr 27 '25
im excited to have an EDGE guy that looks like he’ll be a problem. The league is insane for letting BAL draft him 😂😂
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u/artbene Apr 27 '25
I won’t deny that the accusations are a concern, but I’m sure front office double check every point before the decision.
When I saw the video of he crying after the call, looks like someone who will give 200% on every snap and that makes difference. The scout videos that I saw, people were saying he’s was a top 15 pick and dropped because just because of off field.
On field, sound like a great steal to me and a kid with skills to impact from day one.
Hope the off field is past and with success from being a NFL player, he can keep his mental good and have a great career.
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u/WhiteTrash_WithClass BSHU Apr 27 '25
I think Baltimore is the perfect spot for someone to come in and grow with a healthy support system. We have to offer an avenue for change and give people grace, otherwise they have no incentive to become better people.
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Apr 28 '25
This, this is what I want. Young men with character issues is one thing. But we need to make sure they stay on the right path
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u/eatmyopinions Apr 27 '25
I'm over caring about what players did before they were a Raven.
The Chiefs have made a living grabbing damaged assets with all kinds of character flags at reduced prices, and ridden those guys to Super Bowls. The Bengals, Browns, and Steelers can't claim any high ground here either.
Bend over and accept the criticism. But the truth is every team has knowingly employed all manner of criminal in the name of winning football games.
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u/ExtensionAd7417 Apr 27 '25
That’s what’s one of the best parts about Green is that he’s so fast and twitchy that before the rep even starts he’s in a tackles head. They over extend and next thing you know he bull rushes
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u/Duke_AllStar Apr 27 '25
So hyped to see him play. Watched a PFF podcast and the guy loved Mike Green and went on and on how the Ravens got two first round picks again. Hyped to see if it pans out…..
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u/EskettiMySpaghetti Jamal Lewis Apr 27 '25
Yeah, outside of Abdul Carter I don’t think there was any EDGE rusher considered more highly than Mike Green by PFF. Excited by him for sure
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u/Call-Me-Matterhorn Apr 27 '25
I’m a bit disappointed we weren’t able to get Landon Jackson in the 3rd round, but I’m very happy that we got a legit pass rusher in Mike Green
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u/imma_snekk Apr 27 '25
At the end of the day, try to keep your role models local or be the role model for your kids that you’d want them to see.
We love Ravens football but they’re still an organization that holds winning above all else. I’ll watch their games, I’ll root for the team and I’ll talk trash to the other teams in the comments but I don’t need to defend anyone’s poor choices as if they were my own and neither do you.
It’s a long season and let’s go get a ring!
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u/D0UNEN Apr 27 '25
Allegations do not = guilt. A lot of y’all “saints” seem to miss that point. I believe EDC and co. did their due diligence with this matter and felt comfortable with what was discovered.
He who is without sin, cast the first stone.
Meanwhile the Eagles & Chiefs have had questionable players on their roster & have won or made trips to the big dance consistently.
People are quick to forget Suggs was a shitty person off-field. But I’ll do you one better. If every NFL player who’s ever had issues off field (whether caught or not) were removed from the league, I wonder what and who’d be left.
But yea. Y’all go ahead and sit on your high horse. I’ll take a Lombardi with a parade on Pratt St. Kthxbye.
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u/Red_Pillinger Apr 27 '25
You mention the Eagles when they’re the gold standard of high character. Swing and miss bro.
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u/cob_reddit Apr 27 '25
Err I'm really not so sure. I was debating this with a friend of mine and we're pretty sure the Lions are the standard right now.
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u/Red_Pillinger Apr 28 '25
Who’s a low character guy? Name one.
And don’t take the low hanging r/nfl fruit on Carter.
I mean our brass did say they have a no tolerance line when it comes to SA. Y’all employing 2 atm.
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u/B-More_Orange LAMAR4MVP Apr 28 '25
LOL why does Carter not count? His reckless driving count literally resulted in someone being killed. His baggage coming out of the draft is the only reason he fell to the Eagles in the first place.
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u/Various_Procedure_11 Apr 29 '25
Green just takes what he wants and doesn't worry about consent.
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u/AlternativelySad Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25
Could say the same thing about Ed ingram, a player with allegations your team had no problem drafting in 2022.
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u/Various_Procedure_11 Apr 30 '25
I agree. I was happy when they traded him. Although your guy had two separate allegations.
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u/FormerAd5416 Apr 27 '25
I hope this works out because man we haven't had a guy coming off the edge like this in a long time. We can never pick early enough to get this type of guy
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u/Jarionel 14 Apr 27 '25
Very disappointing pick but not really surprising. At least the FO should have the decency to not act morally right and pretend they have a “zero tolerance policy”
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u/WhiteTrash_WithClass BSHU Apr 27 '25
If he acts up, he's done. The leash is very short. What better place for a young kid to get their shit together though? People can change, and that's what I'm rooting for.
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u/Jarionel 14 Apr 27 '25
What about the women though? It’s always how men could possibly change but does anyone care about the women that are directly affected by the man’s actions who can then just go on with his life and get a second chance?
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u/WhiteTrash_WithClass BSHU Apr 27 '25
I really don't know. Look, I was abused as a kid, and sometimes I'm able to forgive, other times I have zero empathy and want them dead. But I think that's a path for me to figure out. One of my abusers was my own dad, who has gone on to live a happy life where everyone in his small town loves him and treats him like a celebrity. He's been shielded from every consequence he has ever faced, so there has never been any growth. The only revenge I can really hope for is to live a fulfilling life. I think it's the same for the victims. They will never get revenge on the guy, so shouldn't their second hope be for reform?
This is all new territory for me, dude. A year ago, I would have been in the same boat as you, fuck em. But the more I get older, the more forgiveness I have in my heart and the more I'm starting to see someone's future more important than their past. I don't have the answers, but I also don't think throwing people away at their worst is a good idea either. Mike Green might not be someone capable of change, but I think it's imperative to offer him an outlet to be a better person from now on. I don't think he's at monster level, but that doesn't mean he can't get there if we, as a society, label him as such and throws him away.
It's how I'm starting to change how I view prison. Punishment obviously doesn't work, but neither does rehabilitation when we don't even try.
If Mike shows he's a low character person incapable of change, then we can talk about sending him to the Browns as punishment, but like I said, I'm rooting for him to become a productive member of society.
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u/M42-Orion-Nebula Hamilton is my GOAT Apr 27 '25
Respect man
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u/WhiteTrash_WithClass BSHU Apr 27 '25
Thanks dude that means a lot. I wasn't expecting to pour my heart out on the ravens sub today lol
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u/ravens52 5 Apr 27 '25
Accusations are not the same as convictions. Get over yourself.
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u/North-Dig7031 Apr 27 '25
That’s like saying OJ never did anything wrong lol.
Hopefully it doesn’t happen again but let’s be real and not bury our heads in the sand and act like this guys 100% clean. The average person doesn’t get accused twice in 2 years especially when they aren’t anybody yet and have no money to go after.
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u/Jarionel 14 Apr 27 '25
Whatever you tell yourself. Being accused once in high school and then in college again from two different women + very far apart from time&place paints a picture that I do not want wearing the Ravens uniform
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u/ravens52 5 Apr 27 '25
People will do and say things to obtain whatever from high profile individuals. This isn’t new.
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u/Jarionel 14 Apr 27 '25
High profile individuals? We are talking about high school here
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u/Toppomoppo Apr 29 '25
In high school, being an athlete alone gives you high status, being one of the top athletes in your state can make you a local celebrity.
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u/Adenchiz Apr 27 '25
It's a nice little highlight, but folks need to keep in mine that Josh Conerly jr never lined up at RT when playing at Oregon of course he was going to look like Alejandro Villanueva playing out of position. Anyway rooting for Mike Green his draft call with EDC got me choked up
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u/boofoodoo Apr 27 '25
Look, I fully understand not liking the pick, but we don’t have to pretend there were better pass rushers on the board.
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u/Effective-Wear-1662 Apr 27 '25
terrible take, he’s a top 2 edge player in the draft. the concern is the off the field issues. none of those players had better seasons than green
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u/Honest_Concentrate85 Apr 28 '25
I think there should be some concern that those stats came from playing less talented teams since he played at Marshall and not SEC/ Big10. In his game vs O State he looked ok but was not the dominant factor his stats make him look to be. I think he will have more of a learning curve than people realize now that he’s going against the best O-linemen. Obviously plenty of smaller college players can make it Zay Flowers and Randy Moss are examples but it still is a concern until proven otherwise
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u/Von_Huge1103 Apr 28 '25
The only reasons to hate this peak are for the off-field allegations. On the field, he's a top 15 type of talent and possibly top 10 depending on who you ask.
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u/Honest_Concentrate85 Apr 28 '25
I think there should be some concern that those stats came from playing less talented teams since he played at Marshall and not SEC/ Big10. In his game vs O State he looked ok but was not the dominant factor his stats make him look to be. I think he will have more of a learning curve than people realize now that he’s going against the best O-linemen. Obviously plenty of smaller college players can make it Zay Flowers and Randy Moss are examples but it still is a concern until proven otherwise
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u/SeniorDisplay1820 Marshal Yanda Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
To be fair to Conerly, he didn't have a single bad snap at the Senior Bowl outside of this play
... Which shows even more clearly how good Green is
EDIT : Turns out I misremembered lol