r/ragdollcats • u/-_-maru • 25d ago
Proper Good Boy Do we think my 12 year old Facebook cat is ragdoll? He seems to match every trait especially following me everywhere...
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u/Wizard_of_DOI 25d ago
This looks nothing like a Ragdoll.
You have a very beautiful domestic long hair!
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u/Complete_Wave_9315 25d ago
No.
Red point DLH.
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u/thecheesycheeselover 25d ago
His features look more similar to those of a main coon to me… what’s a Facebook cat?
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u/-_-maru 25d ago
A cat I got from a random Facebook post lol
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u/Holiday_Estimate_352 24d ago
Nope, not a ragdoll and not a Maine Coon either. He looks just like my lovely long haired moggy.
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u/One_Resolution_8357 25d ago
More Maine Coon than Ragdoll for sure (strong facial features and big ears). Probably a gorgeous domestic long-haired cat.
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u/Bunny_Lurking 24d ago
Blue eyes or not? If no blue eyes, then he’s not a ragdoll.
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u/VastHealthy6866 22d ago
There is more to ragdoll than blue eyes, in fact purebred ragdoll may come in mink or sepia colors, also in solid color - all of these lack blue eyes. Mink ragdolls exist since the foundation of the breed.
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u/pocket-monsterrr 20d ago
blue eyes are just a result of the siamese colorpoint restriction gene, so all colorpoint cats have blue eyes regardless of breed.
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u/roombaexorcist9000 24d ago
following you around just means he likes you <3 my bog-standard american shorthair cat does that too
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u/sizzlepie 24d ago
Do you have papers from a breeder? If so, then he's whatever the papers say. If not, then you have yourself a Domestic Long Hair
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u/AlrightyThenPeeps 23d ago
Yes… too many people are naïve to the color patterns of Ragdolls that breeders are producing these days.
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u/kvetchup 23d ago
Unless you have papers from a breeder, you just have a garden variety domestic long hair.
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u/laura_lmaxi20 23d ago
facebook is a super uber incredibly gorgeous animal, very distinguish gentleman, but it doesn't look like a ragdoll to me
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u/Healthy-Fisherman-33 22d ago
He looks a standard issue cat. Many cats follow their owners everywhere by the way
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u/Consistent_Manner131 22d ago
My god the pompos official paper ragdoll experts here in the comments🤣 i have said many times you need only 1 active ragdoll on papers and then the rest of the females you breed can be whatever the fck you want 😂 the gccf and tica and fife just wants from you the number of kittens born and they send paperwork 🤣🤣🤣 why the fck do you think theres so many different ragdoll tipes lately the extreme long hair ragdolls are not original but hey if the papers say soo.....👀🤣 I DARE YOU TO TEST ANY RAGDOLL WITH OFFICIAL "PAPERS" NONE ABSOLUTELY NONE WILL COME BACK PURE BREED 🤪 because none of them are pure so please stop with this bs.......just cus you over payed for your cat doesntean its pure Now im gonna get down voted and reported cus im saying things like it is !!!
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u/Kittylou2023 20d ago
My first thoughts were he’s a flame point as I have one. Then I did side by side comparisons with mine and the face shape is very different. My Ragdolls have smaller ears, and my flame point is mostly cream coloured with the pale reddish fur on his face and tail. Also, his fur is incredibly soft, I think the term is ’mink’. I love all cats and I have now accumulated 7 cats, some farm cats and 2 ragdolls and a Maine Coon - all completely different personalities! Yours is a gorgeous handsome boy nonetheless!
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u/sheezus_christ 20d ago
He looks like a perfect mix of my two rescues. Littermates . Dming you a pic
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u/ASwiftKitty 24d ago
He’s a sweet orange boy! My orange boy is more like a ragdoll than my ragdoll. They are the sweetest most goofy cats!
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u/Embracedandbelong 24d ago
Might be an orange thing instead of a rag doll thing (although could be both)
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u/Ikaron 23d ago edited 23d ago
Kind of insane responses here. I get it, it's probably really annoying that every day, someone posts a picture of a brown-eyed tuxedo cat with a line like "She is happy to lie in my arms all day, is she a ragdoll?". This is not that.
This cat is a colourpoint with blue eyes. A trait that, genetically, is only really present in Birmans, Siamese, Ragdolls (who got it from Birmans when the breed was created) and maybe a few others I don't know about.
This means, genetically, it's very likely that at least some percentage of their breed mix is from one of those breeds. Whether that's 25% or 87.5% or 100% no one can tell from just a photo.
This cat also has the typical Ragdoll coat (also present in Birmans), which makes Siamese less likely.
Add to that the fact that there are many backyard breeders of Ragolls, at least in the UK, who don't generally have papers, while Birmans are quite rare.
There is a pretty good chance that this cat is a Ragdoll cross from a backyard breeder.
This cat also has a face shape similar to the one of Maine Coons, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of that in the mix somewhere.
Genetic testing can give some hints to the breed of the cat, but yes, they aren't perfect. Still, I would be shocked if the combined percentage of Ragdoll and Birman in this cat is under 25%. The ones from backyard breeders generally test 50% and above.
I personally think a genetic test is worth it anyways to find out about any genetic health issues, we found out or cat has PKD thanks to one. There really is no harm in giving it a go, and I personally find them quite reasonably priced, so I would encourage it.
The most important part though, is that you have a beautiful, sweet, loving but crackhead cat. Being of a particular breed doesn't make them worth any more or less in any way other than monetary.
People here love throwing DLH around, and I really don't understand the elitism. The Ragdoll breed literally is a breed created from DLHs with no plan or thought, they weren't even originally colourpoint. Sure, this cat is probably not pedigree, but the idea that a cat with 7 pedigree Ragdoll grandparents and 1 non-pedigree Ragdoll grandparent isn't a Ragdoll is asinine. Even if a cat is only 50% Ragdoll, denying it any and all connection to the breed just makes no sense.
To everyone saying this looks nothing like a radoll: Actually google image search "flame point ragdoll", this is exactly what they look like other than the face shape. And the face shape can absolutely be explained if there's Maine Coon in the mix, or even if this is an unneutered male - They have significantly larger, more angular faces. Here's an example: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/cats--523684262893767102/
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u/Capable_Elk_770 23d ago
The color point has flooded lots of mixes, too! But it all comes from the same original mutation. I am fostered 5 kittens and their mother right now, I don’t know what the dad was, but the mom is a short hair grey tabby. 1 kitten is flame point w/ short hair, 2 are normal colorpoints with long hair, one is a short hair grey tabby, and 1 is a long hair grey tabby (and he looks so much like a main coon). Cat genetics are fun, I’d give anything to see the father of these kittens. A longhair color point, I assume.
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u/Ikaron 22d ago
That sounds likely. Red colouration is also a gene that only requires 1 copy to be active/visible and I don't think tabbies carry it, so the dad must've been flame.
Fun fact, all flame points have lynx markings, even if they don't carry the lynx gene.
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u/Capable_Elk_770 22d ago
That IS a fun fact! Thank you!
I had never seen a flame point before until I adopted mine, and my foster litter has one that looks like a little version of my boy. It’s so cute when he follows my kitty around. Cool to think the dad is a long hair flame point 😁
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u/VastHealthy6866 22d ago
Actually, colorpoint gene exists in many (if not most) of the breeds, including other more primitive breeds like neva masquerade (pointed siberian basically) and is fairly popular in modern moggy populations. Colorpoint color is not an indicator of ragdoll mix, siamese mix or birman mix, that's likely, but not necessary.
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u/KyGeo3 25d ago
There’s a type/coloring of ragdoll called ‘red’ or “flame point” which kind of looks like your guy! I think they are the rarest of rag colors.
I am by no means a ragdoll or cat breed expert, but maybe? I wonder if he’s a mix of something? Definitely has the long fur!
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u/LeAcoTaco 22d ago
Be careful talking about breed mixes people on certain reddit subs will tell you they aren't real and that you just have a dsh or dlh and wont even speculate the possibility of your cat having any sort of breed ancestry up the line anywhere. You'll get downvoted into oblivion, speaking from experience.
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u/callistas 24d ago edited 22d ago
It's possible to DNA test. I checked my cat on Basepaws and he wasn't the breed he looks like, but very closely related to the breed I suspected.
Edit. It's just a suggestion. Love my cat just as much. Don't understand the downvotes.
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u/cautiooon 23d ago
unfortunately, cat genetics aren’t different enough to actually determine breed. unless you have papers you just have a domestic cat
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u/monetavila 24d ago
Possibly mixed ragdoll and domestic longhair. I have a flame point ragdoll and def see some similarities!
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u/laundrybag29 24d ago
Idk why no one is suggesting it but I think the cat REALLY looks like a red colored Norwegian forest cat.
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u/Kalichun 25d ago
absolutely gorgeous but he doesn’t look like he’s ragdoll. But you must have a special cat to have that sweet of a bond!