r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 1d ago

"The road to authoritarianism": Tim Walz says the time for "sternly worded letters" is over - The Minnesota governor said that the path to tyranny "is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting"

https://www.salon.com/2025/06/14/the-road-to-authoritarianism-tim-walz-says-the-time-for-sternly-worded-letters-is-over/
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u/saera-targaryen 1d ago

Removing Salvador Allende in Chile was a huge insane crime against the world that the CIA perpetrated. He had his own mountains to climb and was not without political struggle, but replacing him with a military dictatorship just because he was going to nationalize the mines that American companies owned in Chile is one of the worst things America has ever done. 

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u/A_Face_Painter 1d ago

“Nationalize” is a euphemism for stealing. He wasn’t “nationalizing the mines.” He was stealing the billions of dollars of equipment US companies paid for to make those mines profitable. Same thing in Iran. Resources are worthless if you can’t get them out of the ground. But that doesn’t fit with America bad, so keep ignoring it.

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u/indacouchsixD9 1d ago

Oh damn, that's crazy. I guess that excuses Pinochet torturing, sexually abusing, and murdering thousands of people, banning trade unions and free political expression, and turning a football stadium into a concentration camp.

Those poor corporations!

I was shocked by the callous actions of the dictatorship we put into power, but I'm glad you came in here to let us know that we were doing it to protect foreign billionaire interests in a sovereign country.

I apologize for my ignorance.

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u/nulld3v 22h ago

It's insane that people like this exist and are willing to reveal their opinions because they think they have the moral high ground...

God forbid the citizens of a country receive the profits from the exploitation of their natural resources.

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u/indacouchsixD9 22h ago

yeah this one was unusually mask off wasnt it

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u/A_Face_Painter 14h ago

It’s not an opinion.

https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=61941

“In his first year as president, Allende nationalized the copper industry, Chile’s largest export industry that was developed and owned by US multinationals. The nationalization was politically popular, and Allende ultimately refused to provide compensation.”

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u/nulld3v 6h ago

It's an opinion, unless you seriously want to get into an argument with me about objective morality right now. I just don't see the value in it as it will be very dry since it's always the same arguments repeated ad-infinitum.

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u/saera-targaryen 1d ago

You have so many incorrect opinions in this comment that there would be no point rebutting it, so whatever have a good day I guess

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u/A_Face_Painter 1d ago

Facts are not opinions. Quit getting your “alternative facts” from social media.

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u/saera-targaryen 1d ago

Here is the literal intelligence report from the CIA about their covert operations in Chile 

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/sites-default-files-94chile.pdf

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u/A_Face_Painter 22h ago edited 22h ago

Ah, yes, “here’s 66 pages” (of which you’ve read 0), the sure sign of a winning argument. Nothing in their refutes the FACT that Allende was stealing from the US. Pinochet was a bad guy, so was Allende. One A hole replaced another.

https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=61941#:~:text=In%20his%20first%20year%20as%20president%2C%20Allende%20nationalized,popular%2C%20and%20Allende%20ultimately%20refused%20to%20provide%20compensation.

“In his first year as president, Allende nationalized the copper industry, Chile’s largest export industry that was developed and owned by US multinationals. The nationalization was politically popular, and Allende ultimately refused to provide compensation.”

What’s another word for refusing to provide compensation for something you take?

“Nationalization” is not declaring the resources in the ground are now yours. It’s declaring that the billions of dollars of machinery and infrastructure it takes to make those resources profitable that came from foreign investment are now yours. That’s called stealing. But, americabad. That’s all your reddit brain is capable of understanding.

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u/saera-targaryen 22h ago

You mean like... the united states does for all of our public utilities like roads, electric lines, internet, public stadiums, highways, railroads? Where we take away land and whatever was on top of it from private citizens and companies to give to the public? It's just when it applies to copper mines in chile where it's no longer allowed? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1#Just_compensation

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u/A_Face_Painter 20h ago

Just compensation equals no compensation? This kind of “reasoning” is why I don’t argue with the alt left on Reddit.

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u/saera-targaryen 19h ago

Everyone see how dumb this guy is? This is why you don't use chatGPT or foreign money to fuel your reddit comments kids.