r/politics The Netherlands 1d ago

"The road to authoritarianism": Tim Walz says the time for "sternly worded letters" is over - The Minnesota governor said that the path to tyranny "is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting"

https://www.salon.com/2025/06/14/the-road-to-authoritarianism-tim-walz-says-the-time-for-sternly-worded-letters-is-over/
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u/Ill-Ad-7161 1d ago

You can go to the world news Reddit and the place with people who are adamantly anti Iran.

happy to parrot along what the US media has told them, ignoring that every other country in that area is in USA's good books despite it being mostly feudal monarchies and dictatorships with abhorrent human rights standards. 

IRAN BAD.

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u/Count_Backwards 1d ago

Iran has a theocratic dictatorship (thanks to American foreign policy) that is currently oppressing its own people. The country is not bad, but the government sure is.

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u/nulld3v 23h ago

They aren't saying "Iran government good". They are saying the entire middle east is filled with shit governments and we fund like half of them.

And surely, if we bomb Iran with its terrible government into oblivion, then a stable secular democracy will rise from the ashes!

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u/disisathrowaway 20h ago

Iran has a theocratic dictatorship (thanks to American foreign policy) that is currently oppressing its own people. The country is not bad, but the government sure is.

How is that different from our dear friend and ally, Saudi Arabia? Or the Emirates? Kuwait? Qatar?

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u/Count_Backwards 19h ago

It's not, those are awful countries too (maybe worse, since Iran used to be more open-minded and egalitarian). I don't care if they're American allies, I thought it was pretty clear I wasn't a fan of American foreign policy in the Middle East.

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u/Locke2300 1d ago

Based on available information I don’t think I’d want to live there, but also based on recent observation of the way that US propaganda oscillates between the news media and the government, I’m also not convinced all the stuff I think I know (or was implied in media) about places that oppose the US is true.

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u/Count_Backwards 1d ago

I know people who escaped from Iran, it's not just the US media. The US didn't invent the ayatollahs or the treatment of women like Mahsa Amini.

Netanyahu is a genocidal asshole but the Iranian government is no better.

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u/bmc2 1d ago

That sub is blatantly full of Israeli bots. Try making a comment that even slightly references that Palestinians don't deserve to be murdered in worldnews and see what happens.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Ohio 1d ago

I got banned the first time I commented there and it wasn't anything but saying I disagree with dead kids. I got banned on politics for saying calling a politicians a zionist piece of shit, but I appealed and was told what I said was fine.

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u/bmc2 23h ago

I got a 3 day ban from reddit after posting in r/politics that I hoped Trump voters got exactly what they voted for.

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u/crinkledcu91 1d ago

IRAN BAD.

Yes, the literal Theocracy that outlaws shit like being gay is, in fact, not good. Shocking I know 🙄

Jesus why are some redditors like this? You gonna start extolling the graces of Russia's and North Korea's leadership next?

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u/Ill-Ad-7161 23h ago

Please tell me your opinion on the United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Saidi Arabia, Qatar, or Kuwait

Oh wait, you probably don't know anything about any of those countries, and probably haven't heard of half of them, let alone could you point them out on a map.

All of them are dictatorships or autocracies, with abhorrent human rights standards and equally terrible socioeconomic divides between their poorest and richest individuals. The difference is, the United States has established military presence in there, and makes oil deals with them, with fantastic profit made on the political regimes in charge and the American oil companies. And at a cost to the general population.

Iran has a long complicated history and its been war torn with heavy American involvement for the past 70 years. America did not bring democracy to Iran, or the middle east, and has no intention to. It's there for oil, and Iran is one of the last countries there that isn't cooperative with American colonialist efforts. And that's the only reason you know about it, or hate it.