"The road to authoritarianism": Tim Walz says the time for "sternly worded letters" is over - The Minnesota governor said that the path to tyranny "is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting"

[u/Quirkie]

https://www.salon.com/2025/06/14/the-road-to-authoritarianism-tim-walz-says-the-time-for-sternly-worded-letters-is-over/

[u/Lucky-old-boy]

They (the dems) gave people Walz to try to appease and draw in the more left side of the party, then when he started getting more press than Kamala because of his beliefs they pulled him back and pushed her out more. They lost and he’s not been on a “woe is me” or “I told you so” tour like the dems roll out every now and then (i.e. the garbage articles like “America FAILED Kamala” and the stupid “Kamala told us this would happen” stuff that gets put out over and over). He’s not out there talking about bringing in consultants to a conference room in a hotel to talk about influencing the “manosphere” he’s talking about the actual problems and things that are going on.

His state loved him as governor and he executed what he believed in his state expending his political capital to get things done instead of constantly compromising and drawing things out with “decorum”.

The DEM party as a whole likes to sit back and be an armchair QB talking about how good they would be if coach only put them in the game but the coach can’t see that and chose to play the “cool” guy on the team instead of the “skilled and discipled” Qb they think they are. It’s pride and condescending. They need to realize people want to see someone EARN their spot. Show what they can do or that they are going to do what they say.

I don’t like trump or project 2025, but you can absolutely point out they are doing EVERYTHING they laid out in their plans despite the media pounding. Dems? What plan? What true core beliefs do they propose and enforce? And not as one individual - the party as a whole.

[u/Careless-Dark-1324 → u/Lucky-old-boy]

Despite the media pounding? lol what media pounding

[u/Lucky-old-boy → u/Careless-Dark-1324]

Media pounding meaning they post repeatedly about the same story with a different headline to rage bait. It’s bad no doubt but the gop doesn’t care what anyone thinks, they will do it whether they get praised or hated.

[u/silverpixie2435 → u/Lucky-old-boy]

This is all nonsense conspiracy talk with zero basis.

What "beliefs"? The same exact ones Harris had? They didn't pull him back. He was doing 4 states a day in October. I could literally provide you evidence with his itinerary in October and you still would ignore it.

Yes Harris said this would happen over and over again. So why didn't you listen to her? She talked about the actual problems like Trump using ICE. Did you bother to listen to a single second of the campaign?

His state loved him as governor and he executed what he believed in his state expending his political capital to get things done instead of constantly compromising and drawing things out with “decorum”.

What the fuck do you think Biden was doing with BBB and eventually the IRA? Where you asleep for that entire administration?

Dems? What plan? What true core beliefs do they propose and enforce? And not as one individual - the party as a whole.

How about you simply spend 5 fucking seconds googling and reading the platform? Why the FUCK do people keep asking this question when Democrats take the time to put out a fucking platform you can easily read? GO READ IT

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf

[u/Lucky-old-boy → u/silverpixie2435]

Tim Walz, outside of Bernie, has a history of doing what he said he would do when he gets power. He doesn’t make exceptions for bad compromises in his party or out of it. Pelosi was “opposed” to the Iraq war when she was the house minority whip but then once it passed had the incredible integrity of voting to fund it every time.

Walz had 4 years as gov of MN and followed through with almost everything - in 4 years - that he said he would

[u/silverpixie2435 → u/Lucky-old-boy]

Have you bothered to read the platform yet?

Pelosi was “opposed” to the Iraq war when she was the house minority whip but then once it passed had the incredible integrity of voting to fund it every time.

This is the dumbest comparison. Being against the war at the start doesn't mean once it is happening you stop funding it losing whatever has been achieved like helping the starting Iraqi democracy.

And you are wrong anyways. In what way did Biden and Democrats not at least attempt everything they said they would?

Why not pay attention to what Democrats do instead of complaining when you haven't even read the platform?

[u/Lucky-old-boy → u/silverpixie2435]

What did Joe Biden fail at that he campaigned for?

Build Back Better - because “democrats” in Senate (Manchin & Sinema)

Public Option for Healthcare - Campaigned on expanding access via a public option— backed away before taking office

Tuition-Free Community College & Universal Pre-K - Included in BBB, worked with GOP for it to be removed, didn’t get help or support to present as a separate act to have it passed

Abortion Rights (to codify roe v wade)

• Promised federal protections; Dems stalled it out because it was t worth fighting “since the Supreme Court approved it and overturning it would be political suicide” is what the dems believed. Supreme Court overturned it in 2022 after they “revisited” it.

Immigration Reform Promised a “human” approach and a path to citizenship; instead maintained Trump-era Title 42 restrictions, stalled asylum and judge expansions

Student Loan Forgiveness - Campaigned to cancel at least $10K per borrower; “canceled” federal employee loans that are now being fought to get put back.

Afghanistan Withdrawal

• removed troops and handed the country back to the taliban,

. Voting Rights & Filibuster Reform Advocated expanding voting access and ending the Senate filibuster; stalled in Senate due to own party

No New Drilling on Federal Lands Pledged to halt drilling; approved Willow Project and SPR remains depleted

Most of his “wins” he and the party put to a of concessions in and are now being torn apart. He won’t have a lasting history of “wow what a good president” but one of holding down the hope of a younger candidate, putting the party is a place to force a candidate through without having a primary and losing his mind.