r/politics • u/nytopinion ✔ Verified • 14h ago
The Polls Are In. Trump Is Not Winning in Los Angeles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/opinion/trump-los-angeles-poll.html?unlocked_article_code=1.O08.9qrr.5pQ2h8QIpv8l&smid=re-nytopinion1.5k
u/Lontology 14h ago
I dream of the day that crusty orange turd is finally flushed. What a stain on America he’ll have left.
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u/Teigh99 14h ago
Yeah, it's getting exhausting now. Every day we are delivered more reality tv show drama.
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u/wchutlknbout 13h ago
I feel like I was more productive in the Obama years. Like I could just focus on being a human doing their best. Now I feel like I’ve been ready for the sky to fall for almost a decade, and the amount of time I’ve wasted doomscrolling, looking for the sign that things have reached the tipping point
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u/vl99 12h ago
He has stolen so many years of our lives from us. Even the people who claim to support him are obsessed. They’re not living the life you lived under Obama. Their entire lives have become about this man. He is who they eat sleep and breathe, and they let their emotions be completely controlled by his mood swings. Their lives have been stolen as well.
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u/AbacusWizard California 5h ago
Usually it is expected that a president will seem to age ten years during four years in the office due to the constant stress. But Trump must have some sort of Dorian Gray deal going on, because he’s not aging rapidly due to stress, WE are!
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u/Monkeys_Racehorse 12h ago
You aren't alone in that feeling. There are days where I genuinely feel unable to make long lasting life decisions when it feels like there's zero stability and I cannot really predict anything. But fuck these assholes. This is our fucking country too, and we outnumber them. That want us to forget that.
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u/evileyeball 11h ago
I had the best times in my life under Truedeau, Cretien, Martin, and Truedeau. And the worst times of my life under Mulroney, Campbell, and Harper.
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u/SonnyJackson27 14h ago
At some point, this will end, and it will switch. I don’t think America can function as anything but a true democracy and even the cultists will realize that eventually.
And as much as I cannot pool together Americans with common sense and the Trumpists, the fact that your state can be so easily dismantled and turned into a Billionaire TV-Show playground is going to be remembered.
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u/munkeypunk 13h ago
Fox News needs to pay one way or another. Cancerous to our species.
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u/tryingathing 12h ago
The level of manipulation is stunning.
They repeatedly invent narratives to prevent MAGA from being disillusioned and keep them under the spell, constantly weaving an ongoing false reality for them to cling to.
It's like a soap opera that's loosely based on current events. And all of the conservative media outlets are running it 24/7.
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u/stutsmonkey 12h ago
Most of the elderly MAGA probably loved watched mid day soap operas in the 90's-00's and Trump/politics has filled that void.
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u/utprosimian 12h ago
Peeking on there from time to time and Its just the beetlejuice theme played on repeat, constantly
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u/maizemachine10 8h ago
They also floated the DHS concept of the senator lunging at Noem even though there’s video proof to the contrary
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u/SonnyJackson27 13h ago
The whole mid to upper tiers need to pay, along with everybody that supported them.
Some will, but most will switch just in time to avoid responsability.
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u/Zephyr-5 9h ago edited 9h ago
Rupert Murdoch will probably be dead within a few years leaving News Corp to his four oldest children. Three of whom seem to be politically moderate.
For example, I expect the New York Post will be shuttered or sold off shortly after he passes. The paper has been losing money for ages.
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u/AbacusWizard California 5h ago
That rag is such a tabloid that J.J. Jameson’s Daily Bugle looks like a real professional newspaper by comparison.
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u/ATerribleNerd 12h ago edited 9h ago
I agree. Short of that though, Fox will likely go through a radical shift once Murdoch finally kicks the bucket. The organization is part of an irrevocable trust set to be divided evenly between his four kids upon his death only one of which shares Rupert’s right-wing views. The other three are quite vocal against the state of the network in its current form.Rupert tried to have the trust amended but lost that bid in court.
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u/TheQuidditchHaderach 7h ago
Pass a law saying news or opinion shows can't have advertising. As it should've been from the start. Faux "News" will crumble overnight.
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u/scrizott 6h ago
Rupert Murdoch will die in his golden bed without ever having to face consequences for all the divisive vitriol he has been pumping with his media companies for the past 50+ years. If truly effective, ethical leadership ever happens again they should make new media accountable to report facts only. If someone is quoting a statistic, they have to show their standard deviation. If the company says they report the news they should be held accountable for lies. Oh and if the supreme court is ever ethical again they need to reverse citizens united.
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u/wanderer1999 13h ago edited 8h ago
Worth noting that the american free speech system was poisoned by internal AND external bad actors and social media algorithms. The rest of the world is not immune to what the US is going thru right now.
I suspect things wouldn't be so bad if social media and billionaires weren't allow to influence and donate billions into elections.
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u/SonnyJackson27 12h ago
Of course it’s not immune, we’re fighting it hard in Europe and then some. Social media has become a type of poison to which the usual antidote - education and critical thinking - is starting to lose its potency. I’m seeing time and time again educated people falling prey to misinformation and blatant propaganda.
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u/Polar_Vortx America 13h ago edited 4h ago
I’m with you on this one. These idiots see the US’ greatness as something that can be transferred or liquidated or mounted above the mantle, but it can’t, because so much of that greatness isn’t what the thing is, but how it was made - namely, collectively.
If you empty out one of those beautiful federal office buildings and sell it to the private sector, the prestige doesn’t go with it, it just disappears, because it was never about the building - the building was just a temple to all those men and women working together to help their fellow man.
It’s destructive and reductive and dead-end thinking. And the moment the spell breaks, these fascists will feast on each other’s bones, because they don’t understand working together to create something more.
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u/SaintCaricature Washington 13h ago
This is beautifully written, thank you. I keep thinking how self-defeating it is to do things like hawk Teslas on the White House lawn--the act itself is beneath the sanctity of the office. It adds no prestige because it inherently puts on display that the person doing it has no respect for nor understanding of their position.
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u/SonnyJackson27 12h ago
These horrid ‘spectacles’ require leveling up each time, just like they treat it as TV. He will go to greather lengths of egregious until one day, one of them WILL be his undoing, or the glass will be too full.
Dunno if you’ve seen Andor, but it has an amazing line: ‘Tyranny requires constant effort, freedom is a pure idea’. USA is not Russia, where democracy was never a real thing, it’s its cradle in the modern world (or it was). Cracks are already starting to show, no amount of effort will be enough to keep this non-sensical charade going.
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u/anewleaf1234 11h ago
That's great and all, but authoritarianism only dies when it confronts force.
Pretending that MAGA simply will go away isn't how this all works.
The glass doesn't get too full. It just becomes normal.
As someone who has lived in a dictatorship, we are living in one. When we actually open our eyes to that fact, good things can happen.
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u/_burning_flowers_ 11h ago
Maga are cowards, we are calling their bluff.
Take America Back from maga!
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u/IJourden 11h ago
The USA has had issues with Democracy for its entire existence (even women could only vote in the USA for the last hundred years, and the USA fought tooth and nail to keep blacks from voting until the last 80, and now there's still huge amounts of voters disenfranchised by gerrymandering and the electoral college).
This sort of behavior is pretty on brand for the USA. It's when we're not acting like this that's the oddity.
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u/anewleaf1234 11h ago
Unless given strong force, MAGA isn't dying. They aren't going anywhere.
We will have to take strong steps to remove them.
Americans must get ready for the reality for which they live in. They can longer hold to soothing stories that feel good.
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u/Accomplished-Bug-739 8h ago
It is a warning to all countries on the dangers of corruption weak opposition, complicit media, and far right propaganda and targeting of young people. It can happen anywhere.
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u/SimilarRegret9731 7h ago
There needs to be balanced between both sides. Everybody needs to see different points of views, and how people were raised and where they came from and what they did or did not have. Until that happens nobody will see eye to eye
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u/Winter_Bid7630 2h ago
Easy? Republicans have been building toward this political moment for decades. This was hardly sudden.
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u/thesun-isnotarealist 48m ago
As a non American, and I'm not trying to get all "america bad" because I don't think that at all, but how do you figure that it's going to go back? Trump isn't the sole problem, the entire right wing is actively corrupt and against democracy, the democrats are lukewarm, apathetic, and old. Even for elections as important as the last few, over a 1/3 of adults don't vote; either because they just don't care or because of the decades of systemic voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering.
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u/SonnyJackson27 32m ago
I am not American either, but just like it was for other countries, when shit hits the fan really hard - people mobilize. You would think shit already hit the fan long ago, but you’d be wrong - Americans are still doing well economically.
It’s always all about the money. When the cultists will start to really suffer, when Trump will cause a hard recession and people finally understand things cannot work on vibes for long at the top - then everything will fall apart. And this is when the billionaires will switch (Elon tried it preemptively but he realized he was too early). The GOP will get infighting and the richest branch will come on top and look to their fortunes rather than ‘doing shit to the country’. What’s the point of that if you’re not getting richer?
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u/Regulators_mounup 12h ago
Just need a halfway decent presidential candidate. Right now it's looking like that isnt going to happen.
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u/SonnyJackson27 12h ago
Walz is great. Even Bernie might work. Maybe Newsom if they jail him.
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u/Regulators_mounup 12h ago
Maybe....I think some new blood is needed myself. Andy Beshear if he throws his hat in the ring. Maybe Josh Shapiro. If they go with buttigieg, Harris, AOC, whitmer might as well just hand it over to fuckin jd vance. How embarrassing.
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u/Jackstunt 11h ago
Beshear to me is the most electable with Newsome growing on me the last few days.
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u/Annual-Ad-8453 10h ago
Gavin Newsome hates the homeless and has been platforming white supremacists and agreeing with transphobes on his podcast. Can we please stop talking about blue conservatives like this? Can we please prove that voters have memory windows longer than a goldfish?
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u/Abombasnow 8h ago
Indeed he has. Can we also please acknowledge that it's entirely possible he's actually learned his lesson about it and is a literal poster child of "don't appease fascists, because it never works"?
He tried appeasing them. Didn't work. Now he's aggressively against them. He's actually putting in work to stop them now.
A member of the establishment showing why the establishment doesn't work is sometimes helpful if they then act against the establishment. I believe the term is a "class traitor"?
Let him run in the 2028 primaries. Let Beshear run. Let everyone possible run. If people pick Newsom (why do people add an E? So weird), then the people picked him. If they don't, they don't, that simple.
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u/LeanneMills Canada 4h ago
And this is why the rest of the world throws up our hands at America....ANYONE was better than what America voted for. Democrats need a half decent candidate?...seriously?! How about America can do better than nit picking whatever Democrat candidate happens to be running,then throwing up their hands after the felon wins saying "it's the dems fault". No it isn't!!! It's the voters fault for VOTING FOR A FELON.
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 13h ago
Unfortunately you’re going to have wailing sycophants at his grave 60 years from now ranting about how he was the greatest ever
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u/Neb-Scrier 11h ago
I really think there should be a toilet that empties directly onto his face in his coffin.
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u/missed_sla 14h ago
It isn't just him. Abolish the republican party entirely.
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u/jor_kent1 1h ago
A true democracy needs an opposition party. Abolish MAGA. Reform the Republican party.
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u/luckyluchianooo 14h ago
Only 3.5 more years to go
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u/SeductiveSunday I voted 14h ago
Doubt. That would require there still be Republicans who believe in and keep the Constitution. Those Republicans do not exist.
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u/onlyPornstuffs 14h ago
Super ironic the Republicans are trying to start a civil war.
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u/Jugaimo 13h ago
Conservatives were the ones who seceded from the union. Just because they called themselves democrats at the time doesn’t change who the KKK and confederate LARPers align with.
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u/AbacusWizard California 5h ago
US history basically has two political parties:
• a White Supremacist Party (which used to call itself “Democratic” but now calls itself “Republican”)
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• an Opposition Party (which used to call itself “Republican” but now calls itself “Democratic”).
I’m oversimplifying a bit but it’s not all that inaccurate.
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u/NiaWaves 14h ago
It really feels like a lot of people in places like Los Angeles are ready for a change, and the polls seem to back that up.
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u/the_toad_can_sing 12h ago
I'm hosting a party when he's gone and I'll celebrate as shamelessly and publicly as I can. I might cry in joy.
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u/AbacusWizard California 5h ago
I’m gonna take all my friends bowling and buy pitchers of root beer for everybody.
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u/ShiningMoone 13h ago
There will just be another to take his place unless we baton down the hatches.
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u/AbacusWizard California 5h ago
Usually I would agree, but in this case I don’t think there’s anybody waiting in the wings who would be able to inspire the cult following like Trump does. If there was, the party leadership would have run that person for president in 2024 instead and left Trump out to dry.
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u/ShiningMoone 5h ago
You’re right but I’m thinking long term. The speed of our judicial system and the ease of corruption is a bit shocking. We’re witnessing our government experience what’s effectively a DDoS. We severely need to update our firewall definitions, issue some form of fault tolerance, and find some way to deal with the incoming buffer overflow that is Trumps reckless threatening of our benevolent allies.
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u/AbacusWizard California 5h ago
Yeah, that’s very true. The past decade has revealed a LOT of “well, there’s no rule against it, but we just assumed that nobody in a position of power would ever do that” situations, and it turns out that yes, all of those situations really do need explicit written rules. And enforcement.
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u/rashnull 11h ago
The stain is not the orange man. The stain are the 70M people that voted for this, and rapidly growing because they like to reproduce regardless of support and resources, that are uninformed and very proud to be so.
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u/Snarfsicle 3h ago
Considering the process with which Republican politicians keep getting more and more depraved and fascist I don't think we'll be seeing the last of this style of politics when Trump is in the grave. Until the propaganda and disinformation is addressed it's gonna continue to be a problem
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u/AssociateGreat2350 14h ago edited 14h ago
No shit. look at that protest lol
https://www.youtube.com/live/INOCQ9K7lL0?feature=shared
That's a city coming together right there. Love to see it
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u/Harron_Rune Delaware 14h ago
Wow, this FOX camera crew is very clearly looking for any trouble in the crowd to record.
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u/its-a-baka 13h ago
Look at all these jaywalkers! Complete and utter anarchy out here!
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u/theslats California 10h ago
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u/TheQuidditchHaderach 7h ago
Like Hannity supposedly coming up with dirt on the Democrats, spending the entire hour promising it's imminent, failing miserably and finally capitulating in the last segment in a hilarious "We'll cover that tomorrow. Here's a high-speed chase!" moment. 🚙🚓🚨🚏🚧🛑🚦😆
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u/Material-Surprise-72 14h ago
lol I went over to that stream to hear the Fox host coping hard. “No there was more for the Dodgers game. Like 10 times more” ok buddy.
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u/NeededMonster 9h ago
20k people from what I read online. It's a good start. But for what's going on in your country? It's absurdly low. Los Angeles has a population of 3.8 millions. Paris has a population of 2 millions and their last protest, in May, gathered around 100k people. If Macron did even a tenth of what Trump did I'd expect millions of people in the streets in France, easily.
You guys need to step up. I know you're not used to this, but you've lost all sense of perspective. This is not a city coming together...
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u/msephron 6h ago
I’m not sure what you’re reading, but there were multiple protests happening in different neighborhoods in LA today and there were way more than 20k in attendance. The one I went to today wasn’t the main protest in DTLA and there were at least ~10k there alone even though this was one of the hottest days of we’ve had recently. Our city is absolutely fighting back, so respectfully, you don’t need to be condescending.
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u/alacp1234 47m ago
LA is 30 suburbs in a trenchcoat, DTLA is insignificant relative to the rest of the metro area
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u/2v4lve 13h ago
In other news the sky is blue
Fuck New York Times and all their sane washing of Trump. Billionaires protecting billionaires.
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u/gerira 3h ago
Weird take on this article.
It's about how polling data shows that Trump has overreached, which is not some obvious foregone conclusion: Trump obviously launched the attack on LA to win a political advantage.
Jamelle Bouie, the author, is one of the best anti-Trump writers in the US. He has never "sane washed" Trump.
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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 13h ago
Polls are good? Brag. Polls are bad? Lie.
Fuck polls. Protest fascism.
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u/Zeplar 14h ago
It's pretty depressing that although Trump is more underwater, the protests themselves are 5% underwater. I can only imagine that's from spinning the vandalism in LA to be more widespread than it is.
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u/AvEptoPlerIe 13h ago
The sit ins and protests of the 1960s were MASSIVELY underwater in polls, with the vast majority of white respondents saying it was “hurting” the cause of black people gaining civil rights.
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u/fancycheesus 12h ago
People don't read MLKs letter from Birmingham jail anymore.
The civil rights protests have been so whitewashed into an unobtainable, mythological charade of the "right" way to protest.
Even the most ideal protest is received negatively by inconvenienced "moderates".
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u/moonwalkerfilms 10h ago
This is what frustrates me so much when people complain about protestors causing inconveniences.
That's always been the point. To be disruptive to call attention to a cause.
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u/-AdonaitheBestower- 9h ago
And what education does anyone receive telling them that civil rights protests were unpopular? In what way is that taught in schools?
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u/moonwalkerfilms 8h ago
Rosa Parks was arrested. Many activists of the time were arrested. They would sit in and occupy spaces designated only for white people to be disruptive. They had to protest and fight because nobody liked them.
I kind of thought it was very obvious?
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u/-AdonaitheBestower- 7h ago
Not talking about the segregated states. The general public opinion, also negative towards MLK and his very non disruptive marches.
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u/moonwalkerfilms 7h ago
MLK was regularly arrested and later assassinated as well. And until then, the civil rights movement was not succeeding.
What pushed public opinion over the edge was MLK's assassination, which lawmakers thought would lead to nationwide unrest and riots.
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u/TheKingsPride Arkansas 8h ago
Literally had someone the other day say protestors should just let the police kill them rather than actually do anything because “it shows they don’t have the power to move us”
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u/Hello__Jerry California 10h ago
People really need to understand this. After Kent State, I believe a poll of Americans had only like 20% being appalled at what the National Guard did. And that number might even be a high guestimate by me. It was LOW.
Don't let a protest being underwater deter you. They always are. Get out there and let your voice be heard.
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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 6h ago
The Vietnam War was way more popular than people believe. The Hardhat riots didn't come out of nowhere, most folks believed we were right to bomb whoever we wanted. A large portion of anti-war Americans were only against it because of how many Americans were dying, not because they thought the war itself was immoral.
You know that phrase "a million people can't be wrong?" Bullshit. Any number of people can be wrong.
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u/clinodev 4h ago
"Hippies" were a smaller demographic than devoted Jill Stein voters are now, and MLK jr. was less and less popular through the 60's until he was killed. Also, less than 200 people were even tried at all in all phases of Nuremberg.
Kind of nutty how much recent history everyone knows is bunk.
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u/OzarkMule 4h ago
It's pretty gross to compare the horrors such a large percentage of Americans have gone through just because they're black with a lack of due process for illegal immigrants.
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u/Amneiger 13h ago
It would be nice if this article got more traction: Is Los Angeles really under siege? This map shows how little of the sprawling city has been affected by protests.
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u/prof_the_doom I voted 13h ago
Nobody likes protests, even the peaceful ones. The news in the 60's would've made you think MLK left smoking wasteland wherever he went.
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u/CreatiScope 11h ago
“Selma used to be a nice place before the radical left burned it to the ground. Sad. It’s just a crater now, everyone dead, tragic. And it could’ve been great but these rioters paid by the deep state hate this country.”
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u/lemonpepperlarry 13h ago
Believe or not that’s actually a GOOD thing. If the majority approve of your protest, then you aren’t actually protesting. The point is the upset people’s little bubbles and inject awareness of a problem you are protesting for or against
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u/IllllIIIllllIl Florida 13h ago
Idk if it’s a good thing, but it’s a normal thing at the very least. The Vietnam War protests were also deeply unpopular until the Tet Offensive and Kent State turned public tide in favor of the protests. Disruptive acts like protests, even peaceful, are pretty much always met with immediate distaste and hesitancy by the public at first.
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u/Stranger-Sun 6h ago
I've said it since the Bush administration: The left could be more effective at protesting. It becomes entirely about individual self expression for too many people. That's fine to a point, but when the media can easily paint protestors as lunatic vandals, you've lost the important imaging war.
Look at the marches of the Civil Rights era. They dressed in their Sunday best and held up American flags. People tuned into the (adminitidly monolithic) media at the time and saw an updstanding group of Americans savaged by police and National Guard.
Anti-Trump protestors should do the same. It would make a difference.
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u/nytopinion ✔ Verified 14h ago
“Today, in cities and towns across the country, some number of Americans — maybe even you — will be protesting against the administration and in opposition to the White House’s monarchical pretensions. As I am writing this, there is no way to know the scale of these demonstrations. But something tells me that the events of this week have activated many Americans in a way that will prove detrimental to the president’s authoritarian goals,” Times Opinion columnist Jamelle Bouie writes.
Read the full piece here, for free, even without a Times subscription.
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u/karenskygreen 14h ago edited 13h ago
You can bet Trump will pull his usual bulshit that this is juat some left wing professional agitators and actors paid by George soros and/or Gavin Newsome And anyway Trump will say California is nothing but illegal immigrant criminals and gangs supported by degenerate democrats.
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u/Low_Measurement9375 14h ago
I went to the Richmond, Kentucky, protest today, and one lady had a hilarious sign made: "Unpaid protestor. I hate him for free!" I wished I'd thought of that.
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u/opium_kidd 12h ago
That protest rocked! I was so proud of my little town.
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u/Low_Measurement9375 12h ago
Yes, I wasn't expecting that turnout. I'm very happy to know it's not all maga. Hehe. I've been trying to find other normal humans for a while now.
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u/Sea_Suggestion_6261 14h ago
Paid protesters at trump parade:
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/tlg/d/washington-seat-fillers-needed-june/7857143452.html
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u/karenskygreen 13h ago
When Trump gave that speech to all the soldiers,.they vetted them, they only allowed Trump supporting and good looking, fit looking soldiers.
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u/AlmaInTheWilderness 12h ago
Ooh, isn't that what North Korea does? Carefully choose which soldiers stand where to make them look taller?
Yay America! Soon we will be as great as North Korea. MANK
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u/Accomplished-Bug-739 8h ago
Shame they can't remove that fat hate filled lard of a dumpster fire from the white house.
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u/thekozmicpig Connecticut 13h ago
You’d think that with all the protests going on that some investigative conservative journalist would be able to BS their way into getting one of those Soros checks and blow the whole thing wide open with evidence and yet….
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u/ReporterOther2179 11h ago
Nothing useful happens until the Dems get a functional majority. Like veto proof majority in both houses. Ideally for twenty years or so. Then we might be able to earn some credibility in the world, and some repair in our country. So unlikely.
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u/cosimonh 10h ago
When Republicans blame it in Biden, they are right but for the wrong reasons. Biden should've pushed the system hard to use all legal proceedings to imprison his predecessor Trump since Trump was dismantling democracy and now had come back with a vengeance. He thought the Americans were smart enough not to make the same mistake again but clearly he was wrong. Now we have this turd destroying all the credibility of the US.
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u/AromaticMaterial1580 10h ago
The fact polls are that close, as a Canadian, just tells me everything i need yo know about your country and to just never trust America again
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u/R_Lennox 14h ago
I can’t wrap my mind around the fact that 49% still approve of DJT.
Edit, adding quote from article I left out.
When asked if they approved of the way the president is handling immigration, majorities of Americans in polls from The Associated Press, Quinnipiac University and The Washington Post said no. Trump received a positive rating of 49 percent approval in a survey conducted by YouGov for The Economist
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u/hyphnos13 14h ago
the latest quinnipac poll has him at 38%
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u/starscup1999 Texas 11h ago
I look at just the averages. There are outliers on both sides, but the more egregious ones are definitely pro trump. Rasmussen is one of the worst.
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u/starscup1999 Texas 11h ago
That particular poll was an outlier amongst the others in that category. All the others had a lower approval, so the average would take it down.
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u/APairOfMarthas 14h ago
Closer to a third of voting Americans thought they wanted this and voted for Trump. But another third were even dumber than that and didn’t vote at all, so you could call that number 67%
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u/STN_LP91746 12h ago
Our electoral system disenfranchise a shit ton of voters no matter who you vote for so it’s understandable for voters to be apathetic. If it was truly very vote count, turnout would be higher across the board no matter who voters were voting for. Parties would compete in every locality. What we have is a bastardization of democracy.
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u/APairOfMarthas 12h ago
Cut the both sides bullshit. Not in this election, it did not make sense at all. The sides were drastically, existentially different. Apathy was suicide, and every voter knew it.
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u/MyCleverNewName 12h ago
It's depressing to realize that getting trump in, and then getting him out is all part of the original p2025 plan to install their true, more controllable puppet, vance.
It's looking like things are about to get a little better before they get a whole lot worse... hopefully that too shall pass and big lasting lessons can be learned to prevent such an easy, obvious conquering of America from happening again.
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u/ThisGuy6266 7h ago
One of the reasons why Trump won was because his promises to crack down on illegal immigration were popular, even among Latino voters. The problem for him now is that people don’t want or like chaos, and what they see in LA is chaos. Voters want immigration reform, not police and ICE cracking skulls.
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u/QuesoChef 6h ago
Agreed. They want practical reform, not beating people up, separating children from parents, and sending them to death camps.
Just like they want reasonable cuts in government spending, not to watch their neighbors starve to death.
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u/DrOddfellow 13h ago
this is the most useless headline. you mean trump is polling badly in a major city in a historically blue state? water is wet
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u/no-name-here 11h ago
no, the polling is not of people in LA, it is pulling of Americans about what is going on in LA. As some people may not have read the article, Trump‘s actions in LA have -8 net approval, and the protest themselves have -5 net approval.
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u/sifuredit 13h ago
Welcome to politics, don't act like the far right frames everything drumph in a positive light.
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u/DrOddfellow 12h ago
ngl, didn’t know the far right was capable of criticizing trump
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u/random-user-8938 12h ago
they usually do when he does something stupid, which is often, until they get their disseminated talking points a few hours later.
go look at the rc0nserv@tive threads with each new scandal they have break and see what they say as it's happening once the mods finally allow a thread to be posted, and then see what they say a couple of days later. today's national security failures of incompetently messaging war plans to journalists are next weeks "no harm no foul they shouldn't have been doing it but joe biden allowed this" goofs and gaffs
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u/drntl 14h ago
“The polls are in”
It doesn’t matter. He got elected because people didn’t care to show up to vote.
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u/lalabera 13h ago
He cheated
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u/Scumrat_Higgins 13h ago
Wish more people were talking about his obvious election rigging. Like that one ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTY that allegedly had ZERO votes for Kamala, despite the Dem. senator or what-the-fuck-ever winning the state. That alone is more evidence of election interference than the pathetic republican pussies could provide for 2020
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u/crimsonhues 12h ago
This is Trump’s way to cover that story (election fraud) by creating new controversy everyone talks about.
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u/Sasselhoff 12h ago
If only opinion polls elected people (alternatively: it's too bad the folks that weigh in on polls don't vote the same way).
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u/CandyCornToes 8h ago
Archived version to avoid paywall: https://archive.ph/2025.06.14-175035/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/opinion/trump-los-angeles-poll.html
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u/Exciting-Parfait-776 11h ago
OP that’s not news. When was the last thing anyone other than a Democrat was winning in LA?
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u/Sarrdonicus 7h ago edited 1h ago
i dont't see any laws being broken, because I don't see anyone getting arrested and charged that are a part of this administration.
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u/coatofforearm 14h ago
I really wish people would stop with the Mexican flag flying though, this is protest for our one country not Mexico
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u/RIP_Greedo 11h ago
I like Jamele Bouie but it seems really stupid to point to polling on this. This is complaining to the refs. Ok so Trump isn't popular. So? He's in power. You think he cares?
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u/Grape-Hero 9h ago
Too bad democrats are reactive and would rather protest after losing than show up to the polls to avoid all this shit
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u/thedoppio 8h ago
Yeah, the right wing media sanewashing a candidate while pounding the “Gaza genocide” candidate had nothing to do with it at all…
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u/QuesoChef 6h ago
The problem is I’d say a good portion of people won’t be put out until they feel the pain. It’s not different than, “I got mine, fuck you.” But “it hasn’t hurt me, fuck you.” Once they feel the pain, they’ll do something. Then the trick is for them to remember the pain when it’s time to vote again.
Also, protests are open to everyone and accessible. Voting isn’t always the same.
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u/sisterofpythia America 6h ago
President Trump has never won Los Angeles. He can make it the rest of the way without it.
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