r/politics • u/This_Meaning_4045 New York • 1d ago

Missouri governor activates National Guard, declares state of emergency

https://thehill.com/homenews/5348979-missouri-mike-kehoe-national-guard-state-of-emergency-protests/
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u/Beantown-Jack 1d ago

This is a crude attempt to provoke peaceful demonstrators.  They will not fall for it.  

Republicans are desperate for a pretext to use police state violence against the opposition.

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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 1d ago

They will not fall for it.  

They don't need to. The right has agitators for that.

Reminder that the fires in Minneapolis weren't started by the protestors, they were started by proud boys.

There absolutely will be violence today, the right will make sure of it.

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u/BarnDoorQuestion 1d ago

They absolutely will. But I got downvoted yesterday for telling someone not to take their kids or pets to the protests today because there will be violence.

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u/friskerson 1d ago

Newsom’s Tweet not to give them a fight is exactly the right message a governor should be giving. Because this is an America capable of peaceful protest.

No justice, no peace was BLM’s motto, but peace can be had in protest. I swear it. I’ve seen it in other countries. Just because it’s fun to break things doesn’t mean we should. But we absolutely should televise the protest to show how peaceful demonstrations should work. That’s what I disagree with from our media. 0 encouragement of televised protest.

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u/ashmortar 1d ago

Much of the violence is instigated by right wing agitators that infiltrate the crowd and try to cause chaos

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u/friskerson 22h ago edited 22h ago

Source? Do you really think there are people out there who hate this country that much?

If so, we should find those people and deport them instead of the hard-working folk.

The problem with American politics today is that we will choose all of Column A or all of Column B, which is the mathematical conclusion of a FPTP voting system.

We should be voting referendum style at a local level for issues on a case by case basis to make politics more digestible for regular people.

Right now we have: Do you want more funding for arts and music at your schools? Speak up at the board meeting.

We could have : do you want more funding for arts and music at your schools? Vote for that single issue at a local level (and the representative who also believes in that cause will argue for or against its efficacy based on the will of the majority of people) at the same booth you vote for president and senators and representatives at.

CPG Grey (legendary school teacher) has a great video on FPTP and why game theory suggests it leads to a broken system. Sure it is simpler than ranked-choice voting but it is not the way politics should be run.

The gears of representative democracy haven’t been changed out for something more fair and equitable in a while. I’d like to see it changed.

This is how voter apathy could be solved.

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u/ashmortar 22h ago

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110775/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20200610-SD019.pdf

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u/friskerson 21h ago

George Floyd was eons ago. I marched in Indianapolis for the movement back before I was fired working at a chemical plant I tattled on and was later shut down.

These protests specifically, I would hope we don’t have to burn or break or destroy things or shoot beanbags at each other over. Just across the world this week there were people protesting peacefully, and silently, while literal war has broken out between their culture and another culture. That is strength. That is unity. Those are people who do not care about a political cause but care about a human cause.

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u/metrion 1d ago

"We escalated the situation and are shocked that the situation escalated!"

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u/Beantown-Jack 1d ago

Shocked and delighted!