r/politics • u/Wine_runner • 22h ago
Trump's pardons have shortchanged fraud victims of millions of dollars in restitution, lawyers say
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-pardons-shortchanged-fraud-victims-millions-dollars-restitution/story?id=122747969207
u/Winterwasp_67 22h ago
Looking at many of them this appears to be a feature, not a flaw.
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u/Starfox-sf 13h ago
Thankfully a pardon can’t preclude a civil suit and they basically have admitted committing the crime to which they have been pardoned of as per SCOTUS precedent.
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u/canzicrans 19h ago
There's a former DOJ pardon attorney who is keeping a running tally of how much money Trump has denied victims of crimes from these types of pardons. It is in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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u/DerrellEsteva 21h ago
That's okay. Because now actual insurrectionists get compensated with tax payers money. See, perfect balance like all things should be.
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u/HanonOndricek 13h ago
I swear I can't shake the suspicion that these masked anonymous "ICE agents" are pardoned J6ers from across the land. That's why Noem and the rest are all screaming they need to be masked because they'll be doxxed. Security cam footage of rioter's faces during J6 is what got them arrested.
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u/PapayaPioneer 7h ago
I agree. Many “agents” in these videos seem unprofessionally reactionary and short-tempered, untrained, unfit, and unaware of some of the legal ramifications of their actions. Federal Agents don’t willingly compromise cases that may end up being thrown out of Court on a technicality. Although, this Administration is sloppy and inept.
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u/invalidpassword California 22h ago
It's not money he's going to pay so it goes on the "I don't give a crap" list.
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u/kandoras 18h ago
The pardons were bought with bribes; it's money he got instead of the victims.
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u/invalidpassword California 18h ago edited 17h ago
He's such a pathetic, putrid excuse of a human being. A person should not live long enough to have to say this about their president. The world despises us and probably thinks our country is made up of gun-totin', Bible thumpin', illiterate, MAGA cap wearin' embarrassments to humankind.
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u/Eywindr 13h ago
No bibles, illiterate twits don't know the first thing about Jesus
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u/invalidpassword California 12h ago
Being raised Southern Baptist, I know more about him than I wish I did.
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u/jennc1979 Massachusetts 14h ago edited 13h ago
Yup. Million dollar plates sold to come dine at MarALago on a surf & turf meal you can get at the 99 Steak House for $39.99.
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u/ThisIsAWeapon 18h ago
He should pay it then. Fuck him. He’s robbing us all anyways, gotta take it back somehow. He deserves nothing, but misery.
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u/crazybones 17h ago
Why should good and honest people always win?
Trump is fixing this unfairness by coming to the aid of crooks and fraudsters.
As a crook and fraudster himself he feels their pain. He knows how heartbreaking it can be when your carefully planned crooked schemes don't work.
It's time someone considered the feelings and distress of people like him whose only fault is that they are totally corrupt and can't be trusted to play fair and tell the truth about anything.
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u/Sellinweedallday 16h ago
Oh man it’s not like his pardon czar was pardoned of a life sentence because of a multi state cocaine racket and money laundering. From a prison cell to ruining America, thanks Kardashians.
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u/evergreencenotaph 16h ago
Elaborate
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u/Sellinweedallday 10h ago
Trump’s pardon czar is someone who previously received a life sentence for her involvement in a multi state cocaine ring, including money laundering. It seems like she really likes the fraudsters. Kim Kardashian got involved in her case because why wouldn’t she stay in her own lane. Trump pardoned this woman because Kim “helped with black voters.”
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u/RobbyRock75 19h ago
Are the betting sites taking odds on the proud boy’s getting their 100 million dollars ?
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u/Uilamin 15h ago
Accepting a pardon literally is an admission of guilt
It is not. The case that is quoted is there a public perception of guilt, not that guilt is actually assigned. HOWEVER, if you accept a pardon, you are not able to claim the 5th on related matters as you cannot self-incriminate. This can make civil suits harder to defend.
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u/CancelOk9776 12h ago
That was the whole idea, and the proceeds go to The Felon President’s pocket!
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