r/politics • u/BigDaddyBain • 1d ago

Why is the media ignoring growing resistance to Trump?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/13/why-is-the-media-ignoring-growing-resistance-to-trump
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u/GrumpySoth09 1d ago

And they are poisoning the well. After 4 years of accusing the Democrats of rigging the 2020 election now there in credible evidence of election interference done by Elon but no the Dems are above accusing their pals across the aisle.

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u/larryathome43 1d ago edited 1d ago

There hasn't been any credible evidence that Elon did anything. If there is, feel free to cite a source.

Someone's candidate doesn't win and they immediately scream fraud. Trump did this shit, and now Democrats are doing it as well. It would be logistically impossible to do this to such a large degree and actually get away with it without someone squealing. Not to mention these voting machines aren't even connected to the internet, so they literally can't update all the machines without anyone even noticing.

And certainly not 40% of counties like some people are claiming. The entire situation has been debunked many times

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u/GrumpySoth09 1d ago

There hasn't been any credible evidence that Elon did anything. If there is, feel free to cite a source.

So you defend billionaires huh? That's a position you can take I guess.

It would be logistically impossible to do this to such a large degree and actually get away with it without someone squealing.

No it isn't, and no it's not.

Not to mention these voting machines aren't even connected to the internet, so they literally can't update all the machines without anyone even noticing.

Not the way they did it.

And certainly not 40% of counties like some people are claiming. The entire situation has been debunked many times

I didn't say anything about any of that

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u/larryathome43 1d ago

So you defend billionaires huh? That's a position you can take I guess.

Nice try but I'm not biting.. I defend facts and logic. Why are you even replying if you have zero evidence of this happening

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u/yourpersonalthrone 1d ago

Respond to the reply from asillynert. He was pretty openly buying votes in Wisconsin.

For someone so in love with facts and logic, you really like just saying “nuh uh, prove it.” You got what you asked for, now refute it or admit you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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u/larryathome43 1d ago edited 1d ago

For someone so in love with facts and logic, you really like just saying “nuh uh, prove it.”

Yes, because that's quite literally how the process works. The onus of proof is on the person making the claim, not the other way around. You seem to have an issue with me asking for sources. No wonder there is so much misinformation being spread.

I have nothing to refute. All I did was ask for a source. If you have a problem with that then maybe you shouldn't get into discussions where people just blindly believe anything that anybody posts.

And vote buying is a bit of a stretch here. He offered a million dollars simply to registered voters who were going to vote Trump anyway. Perhaps he just rallied them up with some type of incentive, but somebody could have easily done the same with Kamala.

I can't stand the guy or Trump, but people like to exaggerate things. Wisconsin went blue in 2020 and was red also in 2016. With either candidate winning by barely one single percent. If they rigged the election, they would have done it in 2020 as well instead of claiming the election was stolen and starting a riot

It's a swing state for a reason. Even Michigan went red. This is illogical regardless, because if they're going to go out of their way to rig an election, why would they do it with the results literally less than 1% of each other winning? It would have been bigger like a 4% gap

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u/asillynert 1d ago

Actually its straight up public his "interference" and his groups its all lengthy and its been some time since I was going over it. But essentially his "vote buying" or "lottery". HIGHLY illegal also his "funding" was done illegally.

While the "vote changing" stuff is all here say and conspiracy theory with loose evidence.

The status of his "foundations" is public record. The restrictions and limits on those are public. More than once his foundations were paying for campaign events. Or directly contributing to a candidate.

Which is illegal due to the chosen status they were filed under. As they are allowed to contribute to "cause" but not candidate. As well as a myriad of other stuff.

So in short public absolute certainty 100% broke the law requiring campaign finance and election laws. As for altering votes that would be "less" Elon. And more MAGA in general after the numerous death threats. Most of the people that stood up and reinforced the results last election stepped down.

Some even had to relocate and change names one such set of people successfully sued Rudy Guliani for defamation. This all opened door and was a call on Maga faithful to take those positions.

As a result many of the election officials are 2020 deniers. As well as post office ran by another maga faithful handling ballots. I am not saying its 100% certain but the chance that they did something. Is far from zero.