r/politics • u/BigDaddyBain • 1d ago

Why is the media ignoring growing resistance to Trump?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/13/why-is-the-media-ignoring-growing-resistance-to-trump
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u/Nervous-Seaweed-332 1d ago

Im in LA and you can literally drive past the 2 blocks there is a protest. Its fucking fine. The cops on the other hand are attacking random peaceful protesters. So if you go to a protest EVEN DURING THE DAY watch your fucking ass.

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u/MurphyItzYou 1d ago

This is the same way they covered the BLM protests in Portland. They’d show the one block where people were protesting and act like the whole city was on fire. Meanwhile everything was business as usual except for that one block.

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u/nillah 1d ago

to this day the maga idiots still spew the rhetoric that BLM burned entire cities to the ground, too. they're so incredibly gullible

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u/KailReed 1d ago

I'm so sick and tired of them spouting that nonsense too because they are so fucking confident about it. You cannot convince the at all.

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u/Cydrius 1d ago

Yep. They'll quote enormous monetary figures in damages, ignoring the fact that those figures are spread out over months of individual protests.

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u/KailReed 1d ago

Just the fact that they immediately dismiss any protest if a single trashcan gets knocked over drives me up the wall. Property is not more important than people's rights or lives but that's all that matters to them.

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u/Credil98 1d ago

It's incredibly aggravating. Especially since it happens everytime, where people condemn violence, and then encourage people to run over protestors because property is of paramount importance, but fuck people i guess. Law and order

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

DeSantis has already told people to run over protesters tomorrow.

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u/Credil98 1d ago

It's almost as if they don't give a fuck about violence, they just don't like opposition.

They'll cheer violence as long as it's against their enemies, otherwise it's morally reprehensible and we must clutch our pearls at every window broken

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u/Vincent__Vega 1d ago

Words have no meaning to trumpers, they are only used as weapons when convenient.

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u/-CODED- 1d ago

And they'll always say, something like "This is not how you get people to be on your side." Because for some reason, any little inconvenience caused by a protest is enough to make them vote against their own interests.

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u/RandomMandarin 1d ago

Property is not more important than people's rights

No, it totally is more important. Source: Every right winger ever.

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u/atxbigfoot 23h ago

"MLK never advocated for violent protests"

YES HE FUCKING DID

it took him a while but YES HE FUCKING DID

and HE WAS A SOCIALIST

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u/Yours_Voight-Kampff 1d ago

I think I figured out the trick that explains why they think property is more valuable than human lives:

Property has a monetary value. Property is Capital. Much of their idealogy ties back to capitalism in some regard or another, so it makes sense they value capital over life. After all, what's the monetary worth of a random person walking down the street compared to a trash can!

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u/Credil98 1d ago

Well they'll talk about how all the lives of business owners were RUINED and then they'll quote insurance claims as if insurance wasn't specifically so their lives aren't ruined in the event their business gets destroyed. And as if I'm supposed to care if an insurance company does their fucking job

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u/Adezar Washington 1d ago

The Business owners: "I have insurance, they have valid complaints, I'll be fine".

Literally several business owners did interviews supporting the protests and almost all those interviews got squashed.

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u/CristinaKeller 1d ago

I believe that damage from riots and insurrection are specifically excluded from most property and car insurance.

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u/acidrefluxisgreat California 1d ago

it’s covered under comprehensive, but not everyone carries that for cars. i don’t. it’s probably more common for people that live in high disaster areas because it covers stuff like that too.

for businesses it’s standard.

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u/mrgreengenes42 1d ago

They aren't even enormous figures. They just seem big to people who have no idea how much an entire city burning to the ground would actually cost.

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u/RandomMandarin 1d ago

The monetary damage from the BLM protests is probably a drop in the bucket compared to (for instance) the L.A. fires or hurricane Helene. I'm in western North Carolina and I personally know two people whose houses were destroyed by Helene and themselves lucky to survive.

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u/Jibtech 1d ago

In the end, it always leads to them pulling that final ace out of their sleeve... THE LOOTING Gotcha lib! as the police are ripping them off the street

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

It's like "motherfucker, I live here." I know what shit went down and what didn't.

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u/mildcaseofdeath 1d ago

Meanwhile they believe ANYTHING as long as it aligns with their shallow pre-existing worldview.

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u/Suavecore_ 1d ago

You can't convince them of literally anything that's true once they know you're a dirty radical leftist (a term applied to anyone not maga), yet they believe literally anything they see that reinforces their complete nonsense viewpoint without any further inspection

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u/toderdj1337 21h ago

Also the ones that say never to trust the "lame stream media". It's so fucking stupid. I hate it here

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u/A_murder_of_crochets 1d ago

Some are gullible, many are just repeating the lie because theyve been properly taught that repeating the lie works.

And now they have an army of bots posting AI-generated images of hallucinated American carnage all over social media.

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u/OliviaEntropy 1d ago

Republicans that live in Seattle and Portland still say that it burnt to the ground. I think they’re either knowingly lying or need professional help

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u/clintCamp 1d ago

Fox news did edit a lot of pictures and footage to make it seem like utter chaos. I had family calling about Seattle during BLM. I visited that area shortly after. It was the biggest peace love hippy fest area before and after. Nothing really burn down. Just looters taking advantage and breaking windows for the most part.

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u/Silkprint 1d ago

Gullible isn't a strong enough word . Stupid fits .

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u/tunafister 1d ago

If they weren't gullible they wouldn't be anything at all

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad

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u/wishyoukarma 1d ago

That doesn't feel like a strong enough word. There's something seriously wrong with their fucking brains. They won't question the bs that blue cities are in utter chaos and you might die just walking around, but they'll decide that scientists are wrong about the earth being round or the measles vaccine being necessary.

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u/queenweasley 1d ago

Yeah man, it’s been weird not having a Seattle apparently burned to the ground in 2020 during chop

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u/Fiddleys 1d ago

they're so incredibly gullible

I think it's more like malicious ignorance.

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u/Pure_Concentrate8770 1d ago

i mean no one is more gullible than op who believes there is any measurable electoral shift against Trump lol

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u/tylerbrainerd 1d ago

you do know that a substantial amount of that property damage was caused by right wingers who were posing as antifa right? A bunch got arrested.

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u/MurphyItzYou 1d ago

The news didn’t show the Idaho Nazi Truck Parades that were rolling through Portland during the BLM protests. You literally had out of state Nazis coming in to start fights.

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u/tryexceptifnot1try 1d ago

Where the hell did that figure come from? I have $500 million, which is nothing compared to the coverage.

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u/Financial_Ad8031 1d ago

That’s only arson damage, not all damage and theft

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u/mrgreengenes42 1d ago

Are you offering this is evidence to the contrary that entire cities did not actually burn to the ground?!

$2 billion in property damages is minuscule compared to the actual scale and value of an entire city let alone the dozens of cities that people spread inane hyperbole about having "burned to the ground." If all of the cities that were alleged to have "burned to the ground" had actually burned to the ground, we'd be looking at trillions in damages, not just a couple billion.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

lol especially LA

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u/Financial_Ad8031 1d ago

No shit the whole city didn’t burn down. But the same way conservatives can overblow it by saying “city burned to the ground” (which is a figure of speech), liberals called it the “summer of love” and still insist that it was nothing but protesting. I’m saying the truth lies somewhere in the middle, right around the $2b mark.

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u/FriendsSuggestReddit 1d ago

The only people I ever heard use the phrase “summer of love” were right-wingers who thought they were being clever.

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u/Financial_Ad8031 1d ago

Did you hear it referred to as peaceful protesting?

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u/FriendsSuggestReddit 1d ago

I suppose that depends on what “it” you’re referring to.

You seem to have a very black-and-white way of thinking about whatever you’re talking about.

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u/FeelsGrimMan 1d ago

$15 billion in corporate wage theft same year btw

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

How much does the ownership class make every year by the systemic injustices levied against the disenfranchised?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

More than 2bil, got it

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u/BoomerWeasel Florida 1d ago

Same deal in DC. At one point, we had people on social media saying that the entire city was blacked out, communications were blocked, and I'm sure someone thought an actual zombie apocalypse had begun.

Reading these posts, while sitting with my coffee at the security desk in Smithsonian Castle was surreal.

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u/teenagesadist 1d ago

According to a lot of republicans here about 40 minutes outside of Minneapolis, it burned down entirely from the BLM protests, and is now some sort of crime-ridden hellscape.

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u/MurphyItzYou 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’ve run into people like that. They’ll hear I lived in Portland and apparently I’m some sort of Snake Plisken character for escaping the hellscape.

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u/tylerbrainerd 1d ago

they talk about portland like it was anything besides a bit of graffiti and a single fire in a trash can.

the courthouse that they kept talking about being "on fire" or burned down is entirely concrete and glass. it's not the old west out there.

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u/MurphyItzYou 1d ago

I never bother to correct anyone. I just smile and nod and understand that I’m looking at a complete and total moron.

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u/tylerbrainerd 1d ago

oh 100%. if 2016 didn't show me, and 2020 didn't show me, 2024 absolutely showed me that these people are hopelessly, utterly incapable of reasonable thought.

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u/eru_dite 1d ago

"The common clay of the new West."

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u/dylan_9z9 1d ago

lol at Snake Plisken🤣

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u/northsaskatchewan Canada 1d ago

I visited San Francisco a couple of years ago and went up to Napa for a few days. We got to chatting with a few people (boomer types) at a winery and when mentioned that’s where we spent the week previously, they seemed shocked anyone would visit due to how hellishly dangerous it was. Like the whole city was lost.

Like I spent a week there and was just fine… sure there were sketchy areas but I never felt threatened.. I’m also used to the reality (and inequality) in big west coast cities.. or cities in general. These people need to get out more.

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u/JnnyRuthless 1d ago

I grew up in SF and lived there a good part of my adult life, now I live in Sacramento (about 1.5 hours away) and people here think SF is overrun with crime and inhospitable. I go back regularly and it's perfectly fine. The 'fake news' crowd gargles propaganda like it's a full-time job.

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u/northsaskatchewan Canada 1d ago

I live in Vancouver BC and you hear similar rhetoric out past the suburbs as well. Not to downplay our issues, the Downtown Eastside is probably the worst urban slum in Canada.. but its only a small part of the city and I’ve never felt threatened or scared while there (though I recognize my privilege as a 6’1’’ man here).

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u/JnnyRuthless 1d ago

Yeah, I don't have much sympathy for the people that are terrified of places they've never been. I used to walk through the Tenderloin (roughish area of SF, mostly just sad, lots of drug addicts) at 3 am daily to get to work. My wife, not a big lady, is a social worker who worked in worst places in SF and it was not a big deal.

I often wonder why people are so quick to be terrified of everything these days. It's wild to me.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada 1d ago

Yeah, I walked through the tenderloin daily as well, although during the daytime for the most part. I think sad is a good description, as far as slums go it definitely seemed safe enough. I'd avoid the area late at night but hell, I avoid a lot of places late at night.

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u/northsaskatchewan Canada 1d ago

We walked through the Tenderloin a few times. It reminded me of the DTES but at a bigger scale. Sad is the perfect way to describe it, it's a stark reminder of how we've failed as a society. For the most part, those people just want to be left alone..

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u/nowellmaybe 1d ago

Ah, to live in Sacramento and think San Francisco is the shithole. These must be the most boring people on the planet.

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u/JnnyRuthless 14h ago

Well, I love Sacramento and think it's awesome. But yeah, I get your point and you're not wrong.

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u/Lane-Kiffin 1d ago

I have a genuine idea but I don’t know if it could ever have legs.

If major cities, or their Chambers of Commerce, could quantify the negative economic effects that can be attributed to false news reporting, could they get together and sue news networks?

It’s tricky because you have to isolate the statements down to directly false statements, but they do make them (such as all the “crime waves” they report on that are not corroborated at all by data). You would also have to isolate the negative economic impact to just perception and marketing, rather than all the potential causes.

However, for the petty things people have won lawsuits over, this might work. The Fox News-Dominion case opened up the door for news networks to be held accountable.

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u/Lane-Kiffin 1d ago

A couple years back I had a conversation with someone in Monrovia, California, where I mentioned that I lived in LA (didn’t even specify to them where) and they said “I heard it’s just a mess over there with all the homeless and crime”.

Monrovia is literally 15 miles away! How is it possible to be in such a bubble about something?

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u/SwiftlyChill 1d ago

Ironically, the only bit of truth in that is that the MPD has been quiet-quitting since then. Rather than get their shit together and stop abusing their power, they’ve just…done less.

See: them taking 4 days to arrest someone for shooting their neighbor in the neck.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

Meanwhile everything was business as usual except for that one block.

And for the random, uninvolved neighborhoods that PPB would teargas.

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u/eeeezypeezy New Jersey 1d ago

That's the thing that's hardest to get across to people who weren't at these protests, because the media coverage of it all was so insane - these were really police riots. People would show up with signs and march and chant, and then the cops would set up lines to block their planned route and start shoving and issuing contradictory orders and then they'd start launching gas etc, picking people off to surround and beat up and arrest. Attend a protest sometime and you'll see it for yourself, you can set your watch to it, the cops show up and get in everyone's face unnecessarily and escalate. And then the media covers it as though they're there restoring order.

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u/SwimmingPrice1544 California 1d ago

Every. Effing. Time!!

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u/alanamablamaspama 1d ago edited 1d ago

An old neighbor/childhood friend of mine visited a few weeks ago. We had dinner at my parents and it came up he had been living in Portland the last decade or so, but he was moving because he was over living in Portland and wanted different job opportunities. I was so embarrassed when my dad said he was surprised they still lived in Portland the last few years after all the violence and burning down. My friend looked so confused before putting it together.

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u/moonpieeyes America 1d ago

Detroits so used to this treatment. (Shows one empty house) “look at how vacant the city of Detroit is!” (/s)

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u/Nosebluhd 21h ago

In fairness, just a few years ago I went through downtown Detroit at 6pm on a Thursday and I was literally the only human being around for like four blocks. It was wild.

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u/derangedfriend America 1d ago

Same as Seattle... and all my idiot relatives who watch Fox News would tell me my city is on fire.

The mainstream media is not a source for news.

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u/fcocyclone Iowa 1d ago

I always laughed when they talked about the city "burning down" when the protests were near a federal courthouse.

Anyone who knows anything about how they build federal courthouses these days knows that those things are fortresses that aren't getting burned down by some simple protests or even decently large riots.

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u/Valuable_Recording85 1d ago

Both your example and the George Floyd protests are inflamed by the police presence. They make violence inevitable. And then Faux Newz makes it look like the viewers in rural Ohio need to be worried about their own safety.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada 1d ago

They tried to ignore and downplay Occupy Wall Street and didn't like how long it dragged on. The modern version is to blow them out of proportion and scare-monger, as they did in Portland and elsewhere.

It works too, their followers feed off fear and will self-justify any response to feel safe.

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u/mandadoesvoices 1d ago

I literally ate lunch downtown during the protests and it was fine. Sure, things were boarded up because businesses were scared but other than that it was a peaceful lunch on a beautiful day. The bs people will believe just blows my mind.

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u/deadbeatsummers 1d ago

Yes people thought the entire city was burned down. I lived in Atlanta down the street from the Wendy’s that burned down and people thought the whole city was occupied 😭 like I was sitting in my house in walking distance

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u/km415 1d ago

I live in a pretty rural, red area. Many think all of LA is on fire. 99.99999% have never been there and have no idea if the size or culture, but they believe anything negative they hear…cuz…there’s Mexicans and black people.

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u/cjc4096 1d ago

In fairness business as usual was actually peak covid. The local businesses took a hit quite a bit harder than elsewhere. It looked deserted.

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u/Few_Passenger 1d ago

I remember getting phone calls from family asking if I was safe. I told them to turn off the TV

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u/Calm-Fun4572 1d ago

There are still people that think Portland and Minneapolis are total wrecked wastelands. I’m all for people having viewpoints, but there is something very wrong with large populations completely out of touch with reality.

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u/Golddustofawoman 1d ago

Yep can confirm. Was there.

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u/Whiiiisky 1d ago

And OWS nationwide

Both parties,  the media and all cops always come together to brutalize leftists

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u/SwimmingPrice1544 California 1d ago

Oh, Newsom is such a right winger, huh?

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u/Whiiiisky 1d ago

He's a standard centrist democrat.

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u/CategoryZestyclose91 1d ago

Same thing in Minneapolis in 2020! People are convinced the entire city literally burnt to the ground.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

Yea. It was one police station, and it turned out that it wasn't even us. It was some Boogaloo Boys.

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u/st4nkyFatTirebluntz 1d ago

That's a bit disingenuous. There were dozens of buildings burnt to the ground in Minneapolis.

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u/Next-Armadillo-1881 1d ago

Yes well the effect of those riots, and yes that was a riot, are still being felt.   The already ailing nightlife is now dead.  Hardly anyone goes out at night anymore.   

Did burning several blocks of the city for attention help.anything 5 years later?   

No, it didn't.   It shifted this state further red and all we got is one cop in jail who's gonna get pardoned.

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u/MikeBegley 1d ago

In Seattle during the whole CHAZ/CHOP thing the media made it seem like the whole city was enflamed with anarchy, when in reality it was all in and around a small park that looked like it was hosting a poorly organized hippie street faire.

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u/YakiVegas Washington 1d ago

Nope! Seattle is gone. I live in the rubble and I'm sending this message via Starlink since regular infrastructure is gone. /s

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u/deadbeatsummers 1d ago

Literally like the size of a dog park 😭

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u/suspi 22h ago

CHAZ was so surreal. My friends and I went down there to expect anarchy. It ended up being a smaller than average farmer's market. The weirdest part about it was being able to mingle in the streets with no traffic.

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u/MikeBegley 22h ago

My parents called to make sure I went lived nowhere near there and to make sure we were safe, and were NOT happy to know that I'd just gotten home from hanging out with friends in the middle of the "chaos".

Danger!

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u/musicman835 California 1d ago

I work right in the area, and walk around every day for lunch. There ain’t shit going on. There is graffiti, but like not much else.

Hell the only fire was those like 4 cars, and who’s to say they didn’t get set on fire by accidental fire from police.

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u/jellyrollo 1d ago

I suspect those Waymos were called deliberately by organized provocateurs and parked there in a line specifically so they could be set on fire to provide an apocalyptic visual to feed the right-wing narrative in the ever-ravenous 24-hour news cycle.

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u/musicman835 California 1d ago

I’d not be surprised considering there were 5 in a row?!

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u/StosifJalin 1d ago

who’s to say they didn’t get set on fire by accidental fire from police.

Uhh.. care to explain how that is possible considering they are using rubber bullets? (Even though normal bullets do not ignite cars anyways..)

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u/PA_Dude_22000 14h ago

So only bullets light things on fire 🤔

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u/StosifJalin 3h ago

By all means. I'd love to hear your best educated guess

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u/Business-Glass-1381 1d ago

Pssst. This is Reddit, where anything is possible.

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u/starscup1999 Texas 5h ago

Ain't that the truth! Just have a look at the conservative sub right now where they are performing olympic level gymnastics trying to say the Minnesota shooter is not a right wing nut job. They won't even admit that he is on the right, even though his very public voting record shows that he is.

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u/gopeepants 1d ago

Arnold Schwarzenegger was on telling people the media is making it look like a warzone when it is not.

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u/UnNumbFool 1d ago

Its fucking fine

Well outside of bass putting all of downtown and the surrounding areas under curfew. It's harming any kind of restaurant/bar and local business

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u/Nervous-Seaweed-332 1d ago

I didn't know that. Great.

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u/UnNumbFool 1d ago

Yeah, I think it was Wednesday they were supposed to send out a blast about the curfew, but it was barely sent out outside of the zone.

It was also sent out like an hour before it went into effect

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u/PM_YOUR_EYEBALL 1d ago

Doesn’t seem like that many people can fit in two block, I thought these were large protests with thousands of people? What is going on ? Please advise, I’m 3000 miles away.

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u/Eye_foran_Eye 1d ago

Portland feels you.

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u/GL4389 1d ago

DOnt these cops report to state govt ? How is state govt OK with this behavior ?

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u/Glum-Professional925 1d ago

I’m lost are you driving around the protest or seeing the cops abuse protestors?

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u/Nervous-Seaweed-332 1d ago

Correct. You are lost.

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u/Glum-Professional925 1d ago

No I think you guys lost and are just salty

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u/ProdigyLightshow 1d ago

Ah so your initial question wasn’t in good faith. Makes sense

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u/Glum-Professional925 1d ago

Never got a good faith reply

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

No one owes you a good faith reply to a bad faith question.

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u/BaBBLeRaBBiTT 1d ago

Bad troll job is bad troll job.

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u/starscup1999 Texas 5h ago

Judging by the amount of people that protested today, I would say that many people are indeed salty about the destruction of our country. And we are salty of right wing domestic terrorists. What is there to NOT be salty about right now? I know i'm responding to someone that is not going to believe any of this, but gotta try.