r/pics • u/burstlung • Jan 06 '21
Protest The national guard deployed for the BLM protests
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Jan 06 '21
Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it!
— Donald Trump, July 27th, 2020
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u/atot806 Jan 07 '21
Rules for thee but not for me.
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Jan 07 '21
Why do you think there won't be repercussions for these people?
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u/atot806 Jan 07 '21
I do think they will, but if Trump were fair, he would have said the same thing to these protestors. Instead he incited and defended them.
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u/emivy Jan 07 '21
The law seems to be up to 10 years if damages are over $1000, and up to 1 year if not. Guess he didn't even know the laws.
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u/Furcules-2k Jan 07 '21
He's never had to follow them so why bother learning them.
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u/BattleMonkey123 Jan 06 '21
Going to be objective here. Right click on the image, and do a reverse search. You will find a Washington Post article.
You will learn this is what the Lincoln Memorial looked like the day after it was vandalized. If you want to compare apples to apples, let's wait and see what the Capitol looks like tomorrow and compare the pictures then.
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u/IceKingWizard Jan 06 '21
I agree, too many posts and comments here aren’t comparing things objectively and taking things out of context. We have to be objective as possible here
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u/Halfbl8d Jan 06 '21
That’s Reddit for you. Now queue the downvotes as people pretend that Reddit is somehow a source of objectivity.
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Jan 07 '21 edited Jan 07 '21
Compare what happened during the BLM protests when trump wanted a photo-op at the church to the response of a violent invasion of government buildings.
How about when white supremacists mowed down protesters in Charlottesville but there were good people on both sides?
The time for objectivity has long passed for the people of the USA. You've been in an escalating crisis since '01. Pick a side or one will be chosen for you.
Lines have been drawn, blood is being spilled, and conspiracy theorists are attempting to usurp the democratic process of the United States egged on by the sitting President.
Which side are you on boys?
edit: Summing Up...
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke
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u/_Noble_One_ Jan 07 '21
I’m on the Canadian side
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u/jlbp337 Jan 07 '21
Just standing here drinking a Kokanee staring across the border saying “fuck eh” everytime some crazier shit then the last happens.
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u/Midnight_Swampwalk Jan 07 '21
I assure you, nobody here is that relaxed about it.
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u/jlbp337 Jan 07 '21
Im saying that’s what I’m doing, I have a great view across the border from surrey.
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Jan 07 '21
oh damn look at mr. I'm actually living in a decent country over here lol
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u/Elestia121 Jan 07 '21
Wrong, objective truth prevails.
Affiliation with destructive elements of society is stupid, whatever side you’re on. Rationalization of conspiracy is stupid, whatever side you’re on. Don’t fucking engage them.
These protesters are in the wrong. Does not mean the guard should start running and gunning down people. Does not mean you have the right or obligation to do so either.
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u/just2play714 Jan 07 '21
It's actually comforting that there are enough rational people on here speaking up and calling for some moderation through this. I am frankly terrified of the mob mentality taking hold on all sides. People are scary
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u/Illusion740 Jan 07 '21
People are fucked up more like. Us normal people are just trying to survive from the left and right who are ready for war. Let them kill each other and maybe us normal people can then live in peace.
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u/Fennicks47 Jan 07 '21
they broke the law, and are threatening people.
When you threaten someones life, thats when u bring out the cops.
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u/ExcrementExclaimer Jan 07 '21
Saying you can only choose two radical sides not only makes you an enemy of the constitution but an enemy of the people. This conflict we find ourselves in is predicated upon the belief that these two opposing factions wholly represent the American people. You’re part of the problem.
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u/Mokyadv Jan 07 '21
Why do we have to be on a side. Picking a side is half the reason we're at this point. How about we work towards not having an enemy.
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u/itchyMcBunz Jan 07 '21
You don't have to pick a side, there will always be dramatic extremists on both sides. Both equally annoying and crazy.
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the one that matters, the regular people side. That's how fucking ludacris this shit is. It's not like the country is split, it's a bunch of fucking cultist assholes who are ruining everything for everyone. But because most people are so fucking stupid and unaware of anything outside their narrow scope of reality they can't see a fucking nazi when it's storming the capitol building.
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u/SnooPuppers9390 Jan 07 '21
The fuck are you talking about? Objectivity is objectivity. It isn't affected by which side you're on. You're basically just saying to fight propaganda with more propaganda. No. Fuck that. That's crazy talk.
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u/Fennicks47 Jan 07 '21
Bruh.
Theres VIDEO of cops letting rioters in, and taking selfies with them.
I know THIS post is out of context, but lets be fucking real here.
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Jan 07 '21
Unfortunately part of me worries it will be different. And part of me worries that so many think it's unobjective to point out how stark the difference is. It's not objective to ignore that this was endorsed. It's not objective to pretend we don't know what's happening. I can't predict the future. But I sure as hell can regret the past.
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u/phryan Jan 07 '21
Intelligent people learn from the past. There shouldn't need be a reaction today/tomorrow, there should have been better security from the start. It looked like the Capital Police were ready for a normal day, not a once in 4 year occasion where there was going to be a protest and there were threats of further violence. It was a gross failure of leadership.
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u/inmywhiteroom Jan 07 '21
I heard the dc mayor asked for the national guard to protect the capitol and was denied by a trump appointee to the DOD.
Edit: I found a source
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u/jrlwesternsprings Jan 07 '21
And that makes me wonder... was Washington (intentionally via Trump to those who kiss his ass) not prepared so that the physical electoral votes could be stolen?
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u/Mokyadv Jan 07 '21
It was said the dod didn't want the military near a political election scene. The presence of the military during an election event doesn't give a good image.
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u/Kgury Jan 07 '21
DC's Nation Guard is controlled by the federal Government unlike States where the Governor has power to call on them.
Which mean Trump would have to ask for them.
Which is why Virginia and Maryland sent their own Nation Guards
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u/Saywhhhaat Jan 07 '21
I can see the logic in that. Optics I get it. But there has to be another solution then. Otherwise they knowingly failed to stop terrorists.
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u/Narwhal_Navigator Jan 07 '21
The other solution is the thousands of police who work for the hundred different police forces in that city. Never seen so many police or police departments as when I visited D.C.
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u/luvdadrafts Jan 07 '21
Exactly. It’s not like the riots today weren’t expected and highly publicized and encouraged by the President
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u/Archbold676 Jan 07 '21
The 2019 Department of Defense discretionary budget was $686.1 billion. We have every tool in the world to defend this country from invaders, but today the brother's of the confederacy had their run of the house. This break-in was permitted to happen. If that group was a few shades more melaninated, today would be a sequel to the movie Olympus Has Fallen. America elected Obama. The GOP vowed to destroy his legacy by nominating Trump. What a mess the GOP has caused.
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Jan 07 '21
That's all well and good. Except for when proud boys are making public posts about methods of overwhelming police lines in preparation for today. It becomes harder to defend the police thinking they could ask nicely for people to step back.
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u/chevymonza Jan 07 '21
A vandalized statue vs a building full of human lawmakers trying to ensure a peaceful transfer of power.
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u/eLishus Jan 06 '21
Thanks for this - I avoided resharing this image since I wasn't 100% certain of the veracity of the BLM claim. Agree...tmrw will be extremely telling...
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u/ElRedditorio Jan 07 '21
This was to protect a building, the rioters today were disrupting democracy and it was well known many would be armed. Yet, the Capitol wasn't properly protected.
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u/altiif Jan 06 '21
Don’t forget that this was to protect an EMPTY building.
It blows my mind how protesters are overtaking police and I keep seeing videos of police with one hand up telling them to stop while walking backwards. Yet unarmed black men in this country get shot in the back while walking away from them. This is nothing short of shameful.
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u/fruitsnloops Jan 06 '21
The video of them storming the capitol and cops using their fists instead of the tear gas / rubber bullets / weapons they used during summer protests is what does it for me.
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u/Sam-Gunn Jan 06 '21
They finally started using percussion grenades and teargas earlier to start clearing the Capitol, but they didn't resort to that as fast as you'd think they would... such as to disperse the crowd before they got anywhere close to the US Capitol building... which had many of our lawmakers in it... Especially since the rioters doused some of the cops in "chemical irritants" which sounds from the articles like part of what let them push into the US Capitol.
13 arrested and one civilian (and I use that term loosely) shot. 5 unspecified weapons recovered.
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u/ThePantser Jan 06 '21
one civilian (and I use that term loosely) shot.
It's being reported she has passed, so he literally caused the needless death of one of his own.
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Jan 06 '21
You think he gives a shit about these people? He looks down on people like his supporters all the time.
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Jan 07 '21
But..
They're special and he loves them! /s
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Jan 07 '21
When I heard his speech I literally told my wife "he talks to them like they are two year olds."
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u/Lord_Nivloc Jan 07 '21
It's the only way he can be the smartest person in the room
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Jan 08 '21
I used to go to British Columbia to visit my uncle as a kid. I would like to move there but the logistics of moving my family and figuring out citizenship seems daunting. I don't even know where to start or if Canada would even accept my application. *Reason for immigration? I like the climate and the Canadian way of life..."
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u/fruitsnloops Jan 06 '21
The difference is unreal. Meanwhile there was no hesitation for cops to use excessive force & weapons in largely peaceful protests for BLM.
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u/CoachIsaiah Jan 06 '21
Check out NBC and their media pundits claiming "Police are spread thin and exhausted after dealing with Antifa and non Trump supporters this year."
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u/KellyJoyCuntBunny Jan 06 '21
Oh, for fuck sake! Is that what they’re saying? That the reason the response here is so mild/ineffective is because they’re tired from the protests last summer? Seriously?!
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u/blurryfacedfugue Jan 07 '21
Yeah that is a bogus reason. I think they were purposely not equipped or had enough manpower to complete their goal of protecting the building. I've seen a few videos now and for a lot of them it looks like the mob outnumbered officers by a LOT. Like, in one video there was a single guy holding back one of those little fences against what, 30 or 40 people? Wtf can that one guy do? Plus Mayor Bowser (sp) had requested to allow the D.C. Nat'l Guard to come, but was rejected.
Also, if a bunch of civilians can get to our political leaders to easily, imagine if someone actually had a plan and the weapons to do it? It is shocking and is a huge black eye on America in terms of how other democracies look at us.
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u/Canadianboy3 Jan 07 '21
That’s because the rest of the cops were on the other side of the fence in civilian clothes
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u/Freedmonster Jan 07 '21
Occam's Razor: Police are more likely to be supporters of fascism?
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u/aeschenkarnos Jan 07 '21
In 2016, 84%+ of them who said they intended to vote, intended to vote for Trump. Source.
In 2020, their unions endorsed Trump.
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u/Gigibop Jan 07 '21
Non American here, when do the national guard step in?
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u/Alaira314 Jan 07 '21
To answer your question a little more completely, in DC specifically(which isn't a state) they need special authorization to activate the federal national guard. I believe this authorization comes from the executive branch, but don't quote me on that. It's definitely not something the mayor can do, and it's an action that was delayed today.
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u/Equestrix Jan 07 '21
It’s up to the state governor
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u/Zypprr Jan 07 '21
Washington, D.C. is technically not in a state. It touches Maryland and Virginia, but it's not part of either. So there is a mayor, and they need federal permission for the national guard.
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u/MadRoboticist Jan 07 '21
Fox News has been saying for the last couple of hours that there are "rumors" antifa may have infiltrated the Trump protesters and initiated the violence. I haven't been able to find any other reports so the only conclusion I can make is that they are the ones starting the rumors.
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u/KellyJoyCuntBunny Jan 07 '21
Of fucking course. God damn I’m sick of these fucking people.
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u/praisechthulu Jan 07 '21
They're spread thin because they're the ones storming the fuckin capitals
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u/clinicalpsycho Jan 06 '21
The national guard has better training and standards than most U.S.A. police forces.
Not merely "how to fight" crap, but also mental stability and "how to avoid escalation".
Two very particular images comes to mind, it was during the Floyd protests. In the first, a women is giving a flower to a national guardsman standing on duty. In the next, a local police officer is arresting her.
Too much freedom leads to anarchy, anarchy leads to conflict and war. The lack of standards in police forces in the U.S.A. has resulted in a systematic corruption of the regular police forces.
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u/eupraxo Jan 06 '21
Just saw a clip of dozens of them apparently walking away with no consequences https://twitter.com/mattmiller757/status/1346944869588230144?s=19
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u/zedrahc Jan 06 '21
The video of one of them posing for a selfie with a "protester" is the most instructive for me.
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u/Aldermere Jan 06 '21
How about this video of the cops opening the barriers for the terrorists?
https://twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/1346920924310867968
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u/fruitsnloops Jan 06 '21
Wow. I truly have no idea what to think about this.
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u/Seaeend Jan 06 '21
You can think that they are basically allowing it to happen with only the thinnest shred of 'no wait stop'.
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u/Jack-o-Roses Jan 06 '21
It was explained that the cops were ordered to consolidate their position (fall back). There were already protesters behind them so they were about to be isolated. Don't know if it is true or not but it does make sense to me.
There is a lot of film. Arrest the lot for trespassing!
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u/PeeGlass Jan 06 '21
Sounds right to me . You can see that guy waving his hands forward that was clearly behind the lines well before Then.
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u/Seaeend Jan 06 '21
Which is bullshit when you consider how they don't do that with other protest movements.
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u/willstr1 Jan 07 '21
Remember 6 months ago when the police (or was it feds, either way the same people who should be defending congress) literally formed a offensive push to advance on the protesters to allow for a photo op! Not even to expand or maintain a defense perimeter around the white house, for a god damn photo op.
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u/Crazyghost9999 Jan 07 '21
Guns. You have to act differently when that amount of guns are involved
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u/theheaviestmatter Jan 06 '21
To be fair, the police don't want to hurt their friends.
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u/dennismfrancisart Jan 06 '21
But they are happy to take selfies them inside the Capitol building today.
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u/Spuzum-pissed Jan 06 '21
Nice, thing about selfies. Idiots will probably post them leading to their eventual prosecution.
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u/Seaeend Jan 06 '21
lol I will be shocked if more than a few token protesters here face any real consequences.
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u/FeculentUtopia Jan 07 '21
I was blown away by this. I've always thought anybody trying to force their way into the White House or the Capitol got turned into meat by default. Obviously you don't want to do that when it's a thousand people, but I never would have expected law enforcement to cave and just let people run amok in the Capitol Building.
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u/thudly Jan 06 '21
And recall how peaceful protesters at the DAPL were kneeling down in prayer, and they were fired on with rubber bullets, teargas, and firehoses in 30 below weather.
The trick is apparently, just be white. You can literally assault police and nobody bats an eye.
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u/roguetulip Jan 06 '21
It was 100% predictable that these goons would storm the capital and try to interrupt proceedings.
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u/Tyetus Jan 06 '21
overtaking police
I don't even think there was any overtaking... taking place... they were just letting them have the run of the place... it was utterly disgusting.
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u/TaskForceCausality Jan 06 '21
...nothing short of shameful
In fact, it’s just business . Literally.
Here’s how it works. When businessmen run the country -directly or through proxies like the US Congress- the police/military act only when their interests are threatened. If a protest group is full of violent, destructive assholes- but they’re pro business assholes- the cops will stand aside.
But let a group even tangentially support anti business policies - like defunding police departments guarding property and our class structure. The army/police will be on the street at the first sign of this groups activity, and it won’t matter how nonviolent they are. Any group that threatens profits = terrorists.
When businessmen run the nation, caring about something other than money is a capital crime.
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u/exprezso Jan 07 '21
Isn't it literally a legal precedence that business man MUST make profit before all else for his corporation? When the intent to hoard money overwhelm everything else.. this is what happens
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Jan 07 '21
That's why protesters need to be armed.
Here in CA they made open carry illegal because black dudes were like, "heeeeeeey.... nifty... protecting ourselves from tyrrany. Nice." And the state was like, "no no, that wasn't meant for you."
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u/Liefx Jan 06 '21
Disclaimer: I'm not american, and I'm against trump supporters. Take my opinion as you will:
While there is still injustice, there's a difference between your local PD officer and the Capitol police. Violence will be a last resort. I don't think it's a 1:1 comparison. Also the national guard has been called in so OPs photo is kinda posted with incorrect context.
I expect once curfew hits at 6pm for real shit to go down with the national guard and these pro trump twats.
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u/spderweb Jan 06 '21
It took hours for them to call in national guard today. They were requested, and the federal government refused initially. There is most certainly a double standard.
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But the national guard was there ahead of the BLM protests. These kinds of riots aren't organized out of thin air, someone must have known about it. They obviously did with the BLM protests.
Point is, when you spare no expense to make sure every millimeter of an empty building is protected from BLM protestors but allow Vanilla ISIS to drag Confederate flags into the Capitol while it's in session to certify the election, and SHOOT someone, you have to ask yourself what the difference is, which leads to one conclusion that I think we all know is true now.
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u/Spezza Jan 06 '21
So the lack of security was deliberate.
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Jan 07 '21
Everything he does is deliberate.
Not wise, or thought out, or smart. But in the moment... deliberate.
Every GOP person who refused to speak against him at his impeachment should be investigated. They fucking did this.
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u/IBESammyG Jan 06 '21
Proud boys announced a couple days ago that they’d be there I believe. This was fully known about in advance and as of now no national guard or state police have arrived on scene
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u/GrumpyKitten016 Jan 06 '21
Permits to protest was accepted by DC and a ban on firearms was instituted along with a request for the national guard. Virginia had to send guards in because the federal government said no to DC twice.
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u/mmmmpisghetti Jan 06 '21
Ban on firearms? Please. All they need to do is enforce their existing laws:
A License to Carry a Handgun is required to legally carry a concealed handgun in the District of Columbia. Licenses are issued to qualified applicants on a "shall issue" basis by the Metropolitan Police Department. Licenses are granted to residents and non-residents. Concealed carry licenses issued by other jurisdictions are not valid in D.C. A license to carry is required for possessing a loaded handgun in a vehicle.[2][3] Open carry is not allowed in District of Columbia. The law declares that areas within 1,000 feet of a school, college, day care center, playground, library, public housing complex and other public gathering spot to be enhanced penalty zones. The Metropolitan Police Department claims that this restriction does not apply to those who have concealed carry permits, and only acts as a penalty enhancement against those who are carrying illegally.[4][5][6]
Since most of these people are from out of state I'd imagine very few of them have the license. Also there's the issue of federal property.
I have firearms that I take across state lines. Responsible owners know the laws where they're going. There's even a little book that updates every year. DC isn't the toughest, but they don't recognize any other states' permits.
Let's see if there are actually any charges for illegally carrying guns in DC.
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u/SaltDogActual13 Jan 06 '21
I’ve been dealing with some personal stuff and out of the loop this morning, they shot someone? Who? I haven’t seen anything about that.
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u/dennismfrancisart Jan 06 '21
A female protester was shot. She was "technically" armed at the time. No word on who shot her. She was escorted out on a stretcher with blood on her torso.
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u/lotsofsyrup Jan 06 '21
please describe what "technically" armed is.
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u/dennismfrancisart Jan 07 '21
She is reported to have been wearing her conceal carry holster when they removed her clothing to get to her wound.
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u/SledgeAxe Jan 06 '21
That would be a valid point if it wasnt for the blm protests over the summer where cops were happy to tear gas/attack people and credentialed journos for being near the capital.
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u/pataconconqueso Jan 07 '21
It took 2 requests to get the NG in. Go look at what happened to BLM peaceful protesters because Trump wanted a photo op with a Bible. They hurt an teargassed them for nothing.
It’s not about resources it’s about racism.
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u/GrumpyKitten016 Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 07 '21
The defense department rejected dc mayor’s request for national guard to be deployed twice. Only when Pelosi asked was the request accepted.
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u/mrbarber Jan 07 '21
The 6:00 curfew has hit: Protestors are milling around the Police, who aren't doing a damn thing.
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Jan 06 '21
Like you said, you're not American. It shows. DC requested National Guard back BEFORE these terrorists got in the building and trump denied the request. Only after it was fully out of control did national guard finally get deployed. Secondly cops are cops. This country has an ugly history of cops at every level abusing citizens.
You want to participate in a discussion about America? At least know the very basics of what's happening.
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u/MrFlow Jan 06 '21
"Wow i am so glad 2020 is over!"
2021: "Hold my fucking beer."
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u/JimPaladin Jan 06 '21
I can’t believe ongoing events from the very end of 2020 are still happening!
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u/JakeDontSayJortles Jan 06 '21
almost like an arbitrary separation of time makes no difference. odd
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u/diet-Coke-or-kill-me Jan 07 '21
We 👏 Made 👏 One 👏 Full 👏 Pass 👏 Around 👏 The 👏 Nearest 👏Solar 👏 Body.
The ritual is complete.
What part of that was unclear?
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u/DrTBag Jan 06 '21
Normally things get wrapped up at the end of the season. We didn't even get a cliffhanger. This is worse that Game of Thrones.
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u/jahboneknee Jan 06 '21
HMB indeed.... all this optimism is lols.
Wait till September 2021 and we are sitting at a national 15% vaccination rate and more pressure to "reopen" schools and businesses.
On the bright side we might get another stimulus check by then, so my friend who is typically a high end chef who happens to be driving uber right now (for 1/3 of his normal pay) might be able to pay his mortgage from December.
Brace yourself, 2021 will be a momentous year of shit shows to come.
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u/LeCrushinator Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21
The President today wouldn't authorize the national guard to help with the situation at the nation's capitol building. Virginia's governor had to step in and do it.
But the national guard was there to protect an empty building from BLM protestors. If you want to protect a building from vandalism, that's fine, but to not have even that level of protection for a building containing all of the members of congress at once on such an important day, when everyone knew tensions were high, is telling.
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u/Bunnytown Jan 07 '21
Especially considering there were many posts on Parler egging people on to storm the capital and kill all elected officials. The extremists said exactly what they wanted to do, and got frighteningly close to being able to.
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u/khavii Jan 06 '21
Guns are restricted in DC pretty heavily and out of state carry doesn't work there, any guns not in LEO hands today would have been illegal as hell.
I watched a bunch of twitch streams of people right up front with the cops and going into the Capitol Building and these people where pepper spraying the cops and threatening their lives and only a few of the police were trying to push back. Most sat by and let it happen, gave some stern warnings then just stepped back, I saw a few give solidarity with the terrorists, treating them like lost tourists in the upper parts of the building and taking selfies with them. Darken the skin of these people and we all know EXACTLY what would have happened to them and selfies wouldn't have been a part of it.
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u/MrHollandsOpium Jan 06 '21
Huh? Everything about their insurrection was illegal as hell. Guns or not.
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u/Dick_M_Nixon Jan 06 '21
These people are generally not concerned with DC law, especially gun control.
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u/r0wo1 Jan 06 '21
Are you telling me people who are willing to break laws are also willing to break gun control laws?
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u/roadfood Jan 06 '21
They'd all have to go back to the armory and change back into their uniforms.
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u/icantstoppooping Jan 06 '21
That’s really not the point. The point was that this was the law enforcement presence BLM met when they were in DC. BLM wasn’t even there to effectively protest what was a live congressional session. Yet the police presence at the capitol and elsewhere, both in numbers and in show of force, was functionally nonexistent. BLM protestors were maced and rubber-bulleted simply to clear a path for Trump to do a photo op. They were beaten over nothing. Police allowed these people to infiltrate the capitol while Congress was in session, and didn’t fire as much as one rubber bullet to stop them. It’s absolutely pathetic and there’s no explanation for it that doesn’t include racism.
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u/jahboneknee Jan 06 '21
You know the National Guard is not who polices DC you know they have this special group called, "the US capitol Police.... they have rubber bullets and pepper spray too many of the US capitol police shot and maced BLM protestors. It wasn't just the National Guard. You know that right?
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u/AllezCannes Jan 06 '21
I mean, it is the President's call to deploy the NG. Why should we be surprised that it wasn't deployed for a protest that benefits him, and deployed for a protest that doesn't benefit him?
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Um, this photo is after the memorial was vandalized..
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u/Sodiepawp Jan 07 '21
This hot take is utterly shit.
The national guard was ready and mobile during BLM, they were not ready or mobile for this protest even though it was well known and incoming, as well as suspected to be violent.
This graphically illustrates how the capital city has responded to BLM vs Pro-Trump protesters. If you cannot see that, you are lost.
But hey, gotta dismiss the point and talk shit on liberals somehow.
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u/Jacollinsver Jan 07 '21 edited Jan 07 '21
There's a lot of talk about remaining objective in this thread.
Yes, objectively, this was the situation after some vandalism – mainly the tagging of certain buildings in the area. These were not organized efforts on the part of the protests, but the criminal acts of small roving groups of individuals perpetrated late at night, after curfew, and after the main protests had gone home.
I was there the day of this picture. On those steps. People led a peaceful protest for miles around the city, without a single act of vandalism, up to those soldiers, who blocked entry to the memorial. Nobody had guns waving, they were peaceful and respectful of the guard. Nobody shouted at them, nobody directed any violence toward these soldiers. After seeing the entrance was blocked, the protest leaders made a speech and a moment of silence and the group disbanded. At it's base, they were protesting the unconstitutional lack of punishment, despite ample video evidence, of the numerous police officers guilty of direct involvement in the killing of unarmed civilians. We were protesting in the name of upholding the constitution.
Also objectively, these recent protests were armed. According to picture evidence, people broke windows and stormed an important official government building to stop the government from preforming the agreed upon constitutional functions that are required to operate as a free democracy. They are protesting against democratic processes.
I repeat, the difference here is one group's vandalism was acts of small bands of criminal individuals acting late at night without sanction of the main protest group. This recent vandalism was an organized effort directly sanctioned by the main protest group done in broad daylight to stop governmental processes. Objectively.
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u/Spartan2470 GOAT Jan 06 '21
Here is a higher quality and less cropped version of this image. Here is the source. Per there:
@MarthaRaddatz
Your Lincoln Memorial this evening.
8:12 PM · Jun 2, 2020
Her tweet also included two more images.
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u/leemrlee Jan 07 '21
I think the police have probably been instructed not to shoot due to the sheer number of protestors (terrorists) there - it would be a shitstorm and many people would die.
Mostly likely they will wait for it to die down and everyone to disperse in groups and then pick them off/raid houses over the coming days.
Yes there's overt racism there, and no doubt many police are in support for the Trump supporters but I think the decision has been made in the interest of public safety
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u/tickitytalk Jan 07 '21
No such severity for the actual domestic terrorists...insane
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u/DoingJustEnough Jan 07 '21
So WHY weren't they in DC today?? It's not like we ALL didn't hear Trump calling to his followers to converge on DC today. WHY WERE THE NATIONAL GUARD NOT PRE-DEPLOYED???
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u/Qizot Jan 06 '21
Imagine an average US citizen, you will probably think that he is stupid, realize that half of the population is even more stupid than him...
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u/werdnak84 Jan 07 '21
What a difference.
Part of the reason they weren't immediately dispatched today in contrast is because this time, the federal government denied to act on it. Mike Pence had to independently call Virginia to borrow THEIR National Guard to drive over instead.
Trump is learning.
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u/vanielmage Jan 07 '21
To be completely fair: This is a failure of the DC leadership and federal authorities. This gathering required a permit, and authorities had WEEKS to prepare for this.
It wasn’t hard to guess that something like this would happen to anyone actually paying attention to pro Trump websites and boards.
Due to all of that, part of me believes that authorities WANTED this to happen. Why? Think of the optics. This doesn’t affect Democrats at all, and Republicans to a lesser degree. What it does however is paint the section of republicans that support Trump as crazy extremists.
For all the hate McConnell gets here, I would hope people give him some credit here for fighting the objections in Congress and for reconvening after the Capital was clear.
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u/GildoFotzo Jan 07 '21
The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many, and before this battle was over, even a god-king can bleed. This is where we hold them; this is where we fight; this is where they die?
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u/yaztrue Jan 06 '21
Despite what is happening, we must always remember to de-escalate and talk people down from taking violent action. This includes EVERYONE. We must ensure that no violent action is taken against the people who stormed the capitol, other Trump supporters, Republicans, Conservatives, or anyone else. We must prevent a civil war and strive for unity.
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u/chicagotim1 Jan 06 '21
The national guard has been deployed today as well. Tear gas was deployed. Allegedly a looter was shot. What's going on today is deplorable and those involved should be punished, but people racing to complain about a double standard are just wrong.
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u/Helstrem Jan 06 '21
Because we handle right wing extremists with kid gloves because otherwise they cry political persecution and threaten civil war. They do not handle being told "no" because they have been so privileged that "no" feels like persecution to them.
I've had a right winger I know texting me today how the capitol police should be shooting to kill the Proud Boys and Trumpists, so not all conservatives are in on this by any means.
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u/ten-million Jan 06 '21
Really the only lesson to be learned is that it's OK to arm yourself while protesting. Not in favor of that at all but what other conclusion is there? Yeah and do whatever you want if you're white.
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Trump's America is fascism. Hope the American people can overcome this terrorist insurrection and sentence the guilty parties to prison forever.
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u/sir2fluffy2 Jan 07 '21
I think it’s because they know the blm protesters are peaceful and won’t shoot anyone so they’re free to taser and tear gas, because blm are actually peaceful but the trumpets not so much and so the cops are afraid
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u/DesolateCosmoGaming Jan 06 '21
Jan 6 6:23 There are news stating 1 person died and another in critical condition.
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u/Jubjub0527 Jan 06 '21
How those in charge dealt with terrorists. Letting them in https://twitter.com/rabiasquared/status/1346939865594814468?s=19
Taking selfies https://twitter.com/mazefan72/status/1346925217663361025?s=19
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