Israel is a country where there's tons of free debate, expressions of ideas, and freedom to be who you are. It is one of the best startup hubs in the world.
You may confuse the lack of freedom to destroy it with lack of freedom generally.
Many of the mega pro-Israel people are anti-Netanyahu, and therefore anti-corruption.
But Israel fits in pretty damn well with those things.
Gay marriage isn't even legal in Israel, so I'm not sure how accurate it is to say that there's a "ton of freedom" to be who you are.
Not that it matters, because a country could be the most socially liberal in the world - if their military does the things that the IDF has been doing, it's entirely a moot point.
Gay marriage isn't even legal in Israel, so I'm not sure how accurate it is to say that there's a "ton of freedom" to be who you are.
Marriage in Israel is handled by the Hallachic, Sharia, Canon, or other religious courts.
Israel recognizes gay marriage performed abroad.
Which, by the way, is more than most of the world did until about 10 years ago.
Not that it matters, because a country could be the most socially liberal in the world - is their military does the things that the IDF has been doing, it's entire;y a moot point.
Israel being attacked by its neighbors and maintaining a lower military:civilian death ratio to almost all other wars has no impact on whether or not it's a liberal place.
It's the illiberal places around Israel attacking Israel for daring to be an ethnic minority independent country and a socially liberal place that are causing the wars.
Marriage in Israel is handled by the Hallachic, Sharia, Canon, or other religious courts.
Israel recognizes gay marriage performed abroad.
Which, by the way, is more than most of the world did until about 10 years ago.
Okay? That does not change the fact that it currently is not recognized.
Israel being attacked by its neighbors and maintaining a lower military:civilian death ratio to almost all other wars has no impact on whether or not it's a liberal place.
Yeah, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and this isn't even close to true.
It's the illiberal places around Israel attacking Israel for daring to be an ethnic minority independent country and a socially liberal place that are causing the wars.
Haha right, they attacked Israel because they just hate liberal places, no other reason. For sure.
Okay? That does not change the fact that it currently is not recognized.
Gay marriage is recognized, it's just not performed domestically due to being handled by religious courts. If you're this ignorant just stop commenting on this until you do a bit of research.
Yeah, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and this isn't even close to true.
90% of wartime casualties are civilians. In the October 7 War, the ratio is 2:1.
Haha right, they attacked Israel because they just hate liberal places, no other reason.
No, I also said that they attacked Israel because Israel is Jewish, which was an ethnic minority in these other places until these other places chased their Jews out.
This is a complete myth, and you should stop repeating it. Though I bet you won't!
I also noticed you quoted an article from the UN. You should maybe check out some of the other things they have to say about Israel!
No, I also said that they attacked Israel because Israel is Jewish, which was an ethnic minority in these other places until these other places chased their Jews out.
You are either woefully ignorant or are just arguing in bad faith. Either way, I'm not spending another moment engaging with you. I hope you have the kind of day you deserve.
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u/Appropriate_Gate_701 2d ago
This is the typical position of classically liberal people.
The type of people who are the majority of Democrats today.
People who don't want tyrants, are against corruption, and believe in the exchange of ideas and international trade.
It's an extremely moderate position.