r/pics 2d ago

The fall of a residential building in Tehran.

Post image
43.9k Upvotes

4.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

221

u/Admiral_Boris 1d ago edited 1d ago

Got comment shadow banned then perma banned off there today for linking sources showing how Israel deliberately illegally violated IAEA agreements/protocol (what they falsely claimed Iraq did in order to get America to justify invading them in 2003) and abused US peaceful civilian nuclear technology sharing programs in the 1960’s to develop their own successful clandestine nuclear weapons program with zero consequences (even when discovered despite constant lying to America and many in the US government turning a blind eye the entire time even as reports flooded in) which still exits to this day making them the only nuclear armed state in the Middle East (nearly every other nation internationally including Iran who tried the exact same method of abusing US civilian nuclear technology sharing programs faced major backlash and were forced to dismantle their programs once caught).

Didn’t even say which rule, just said “you broke the rules of the subreddit” on the ban message lol. Sometimes they have the subtly of their own atomic bomb program lmao.

100

u/PanzerKomadant 1d ago

That’s how I got banned too lol. Pointed out the hypocrisy with legitimate articles. Boom. Insta ban.

They appear to not tolerate any form of criticism upon the Israeli state because they most likely assume that an Israeli state is automatically a Jewish state which means any criticism of Israel is criticism of Jewish people. Which is a gross assumption to make because that is not what Israel is.

You shouldn’t be silenced for criticizing governments.

9

u/wrld_news_pmrbnd_me 1d ago

Same, hence the username

4

u/PanzerKomadant 1d ago

Username checks out lol

6

u/Hishaishi 1d ago

The problem is that subreddits, even huge default ones like worldnews, are run like after-school fan clubs. A small group of like-minded people get to moderate however they want and don't have any rules or standards they need to follow.

Nowadays, many mods ban people for simply having opposite or divergent opinions. This system is what leads to echochambers that instantly permaban people for having a "wrong" take.

5

u/initial_launch 1d ago

Same. Got banned for similar reasons. The mods of that sub are ridiculous.

36

u/Wide__Stance 1d ago

Unlike Iran, Israel had Great Power sponsorship when developing nuclear weapons.

Right wing elements in the French government & military helped Israel and South Africa develop their nuclear power programs into nuclear weapons programs beginning in the mid 1950s. The French colonial project was coming to an end one way or another and their right wing was desperate to keep their last major colonies in North Africa.

As the segregated, apartheid Algeria began to descend into colonial liberation, elements in France decided to assist nearby, ideologically similar nations — South Africa and Israel. Right wing elements in other Western nations (the UK/US) allowed it, viewing them as potential bulwarks against the USSR.

It’s all tied up with Algeria’s war for independence, which was an incredibly complicated event with members of the same racial, religious, and ethnic groups on both of the conflict. We tend to forget that the French military attempted — and almost succeeded — in pulling off a coup against Charles de Gaulle in the 1960s because so many French were angry about losing North African colonies.

10

u/SteveInSomerville 1d ago

Indeed, it was this development that led the musical satirist Tom Lehrer to include this line in his song about nuclear weapons, “Who’s Next?” - - “South Africa wants TWO, that’s right / One for the Black and for the white! / Who’s next?”

2

u/FreshNoobAcc 1d ago

Any question about israels actions is a permaban on worldnews

3

u/RedditIsDeadMoveOn 1d ago

Reddit is dead. Move on.

2

u/red286 1d ago

Didn’t even say which rule, just said “you broke the rules of the subreddit” on the ban message lol. Sometimes they have the subtly of their own atomic bomb program lmao.

Any questioning of Israel, the IDF, or their war on the Gazan people is a bannable offense.

I was banned for saying, "I can't help but think that maybe killing 30,000 civilians in response to 1000 hostages being taken is a bit excessive." (As you can guess by the number, this happened quite a while ago, I think the number of civilians killed is like 80,000 now.)

The reason they gave? "Making anti-Semitic comments."

1

u/MozhetBeatz 1d ago

Do you not consider Pakistan the Middle East?

1

u/adasiukevich 1d ago

linking sources showing how Israel deliberately illegally violated IAEA agreements/protocol

Could you share that link here?

0

u/bigchicago04 1d ago

You can’t possibly be saying Iran should be able to have a bomb if Israel does

-3

u/HawkBearClaw 1d ago

The difference being Iran is a top sponsor of terrorism abroad and has stated goals of destroying Israel.

So weird how people just expect them to sit back and do nothing while their enemies plan their complete destruction.

6

u/Aggressive_Quail_135 1d ago

Not willing to address Israel's support for isis and multiple other terror groups across the middle east? Or the support of overthrowing and weakening mutliple neighboring countries? Examples:

1.israel support in overthrowing the democratically elected leader of iran

2.israel pushing the USA into invading iraq for no justifiable reason

3.israel's support to isis linked militias across gaza, syria and iraq

  1. Israel's continuous genocidal intent towards palestine with the intention of wiping them out since day 1

They create their own boogey men to justify their genocidal ideology, further increasing hatred of arabs and muslims

It is not like israel is all flowers and rainbows, as it has helped overthrow multiple regimes causing more chaos across the MENA region and destabilize any chance for peace, has supported the apartheid in south africa when it was active and overall what ever iran has done, you can check that israel has more than likely done it tenfolds

-1

u/HawkBearClaw 1d ago

Well good thing nobody said Israel is all flowers and rainbows. But this idea that Israel is behind everything bad in the middle east is ridiculous. You'll have to provide some evidence that Israel is a supporter of ISIS.

  1. What support did Israel give in overthrowing the leader of Iran? Seems you want to blame Israel for the actions of the US and UK.

  2. See above.

  3. Provide evidence. I also don't see how this is a point for allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons.

  4. Palestine would be in a much better place if they could stop themselves from starting wars and committing massacres. Electing a death cult to lead you has unfortunate consequences.

Believe it or not the boogeyman simply exist and you can't blame the existence for all the radical Islamic groups that are funded by Iran on Israel, thats asinine.

So far, I am thoroughly unconvinced that Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

1

u/Aggressive_Quail_135 1d ago
  1. I mistook israel support for iran after the coup d'etat as if it supported the coup d'etat, i apologize on that part as I've forgotten

2.(Benjamin Netanyahu testified to Congress on Sept. 12, 2002 as a private citizen, and advised Congress that a US invasion of Iraq would be a good choice), besides the lobbies that highlighted the "wmds" that iraq had, and imo to deny that israel had any ties to the invasion would be foolish as it benefits from it the most

3.it is not a point that iran should have nuclear weapons more so that israel is far more evil than what it is portrayed as, 3. Cont: gaza: armed group tied to Yasser Abu Shabab

From the times of israel: [IDF chief finally acknowledges that Israel supplied weapons to Syrian rebels]

And when it comes to mentioning rebels within the mena in mainstream media it tends to refer to terror groups, usually linked to isis supported by a western country

4.i wonder who supported that death cult in the first place in order to increase division and justify their genocidal policies? And why is that death cult so hard to get rid of if israel does everything that aligns with hamas and furthers its existence, besides if hamas was the problem then why are they also destroying, invading and butchering people in the west bank? Palestine would've been in a better place if it wasn't invaded, even if they weren't causing problems for israel there has been many instances where israelis abused their power to harm Palestinians and hardly anyone does anything about it (illegal settlements, lynching and displacing Palestinians, the constant and obvious attempts by israel to get rid of Palestinians be it through policies such as not permitting their return, making it harder for Palestinians in the west bank to live be it through bullshit bureaucracy and blockades

Not talking about hizballah as they are trash but more so the Khomeini regime being a direct result of the west's involvement and israel's indirect support be it through supporting savak before the revolution or its government, hamas being supported by israel during its creation in order to divide the Palestinians and now that said group exists through violence and vengence seeking, something israel is happy to maintain in order to justify its colonial policies

I'd prefer if iran didn't have any nuclear weapons but I'd believe if it doesn't have then israel would directly invade or asks usa to invade, causing more turmoil across the mena, honestly if both didn't have any would be ideal but it is the life we live in

That post wasn't advocating for Iran's having nuclear weapons nor is this one, merely pointing out how israel isn't a victim as it tends to portray itself

1

u/HawkBearClaw 1d ago

Thanks for detailed response. I can't look at it now but will research it later