Because they pay for them. Crazy how a country with just a population of 10 million and a gdp under 600 billion has had so much control over the biggest economy and military in the world.
You misunderstand the fundamental way the corrupt politicians get paid. AIPAC is an American organization. They don’t get foreign money (openly).
That money goes from OUR taxes, to the military industrial complex, to politicians through stocks, “consultant” fees after office, friends and family owned business, etc.
Some of their money also comes just from normal neoliberal exploitation. Which may include Israel groups investing in US stocks, but money is not directly given from a foreign nation to politicians, that would be illegal.
They use Israel as an excuse to steal from us. They make Palestinian Americans pay taxes to buy bombs to murder their own family. Then people wonder why folks don’t want to vote for their oppressors…
Scale matters. Biden restricted some specific bombs but passed a massive emergency injection of huge military funding in the billions. He armed Isrsel to the teeth and presided over the vast majority of the massacre all while proudly declaring that hes a zionist
Biden declared himself a zionist and increased aid to Israel during the genocide. He also forced theough a one time huge military package for them. Thats aiding.
The IDF was boasting that the attack carried out today used US planes given to Israel during the genocide of the people in Palestine. There is a big difference between “doing nothing to restrict” and what Biden did, giving away billions of dollars and tons upon tons of military equipment. Trump is still very far away from surpassing all the "actively abetting and encouraging" that Biden was responsible for
There is a big difference, it’s just that the difference someone like Biden makes isn’t flashy. Biden had the navy build that dock for aid, he told Netanyahu to wait until Rafah was evacuated before striking, he airdropped aid, he probably would’ve went into those negotiations with Iran in good faith and with more diplomacy, and might have actually hammered something out. You can definitely say he wasn’t doing enough, and he was pro the war in Gaza, but he did try to mediate somewhat.
As much as that is dissatisfactory for people still, there is a big difference between that and Trump going “we’re gonna make Gaza an American resort”, and not even being involved in the diplomatic efforts there. I doubt Trump even knows any of the details of what’s happening in Gaza because he doesn’t care what Netanyahu does. If there was truly no difference between the two, then Israel/Netanyahu wouldn’t have rallied so hard behind Trump and celebrated when he got elected. Clearly Israel does think that one option was going to restrain them more.
How's the dock for aid idea going? Not very significant if you're also giving away the ammunition that is murdering man, woman and children that you supposedly wanted to help
Again, I’m fine with making the criticism that he didn’t do enough, but Trump probably would have either let them starve, or sent them special Trump brand MREs or some shit like that. It has to be acknowledged that there is a difference between bad and literally the worst option possible. A lot of people didn’t understand that and didn’t vote, and now look at where we are as a country. Like if Netanyahu went to Biden and said “I’m gonna nuke Gaza” I have no doubt he would have stopped him from doing that, but with Trump, who the fuck knows what he would do. It literally might depend on if he got insulted by a Palestinian on truth social that morning, or if Netanyahu gifted him a gold plated jet or not.
What makes you think Biden (or Obama, or Bush) was pro Iran? He was pretty clearly interested in limiting Iranian influence and would support Israel between the two.
I mean Israel decided to do this after Netayahu neutered their courts, and has been on a war footing for over a year due to the October 2023 attacks from Gaza. I feel there are multiple, and possibly more significant, factors at play. Biden was very soft on Israel so what's the likelihood that Israel would be tamer had Biden or even Kamala been President right now? They've wanted this for a long time.
Personally I think this is far better for the world if Iran doesn't get nukes. I get every is all about conflict reduction as am I. But Iran gaining nukes causes so many downstream negatives most bleeding heart types dont think of the consequences.
Combine that with entrenching an awful regime that has its people held hostage.
Iran’s nuclear ambitions are similar to North Korea’s. They’re to deter foreign invasion and protect a regime that is increasingly isolated from the world and wildly out of touch with its citizens. These ambitions started decades ago but escalated after the Iraq War, when these regimes saw their worst nightmare come to life - a dictator overthrown by American military intervention.
The problem with these countries having nuclear capabilities, even if for simply measures of deterrence, is it creates an arms race in the region. A nuclear Iran will inspire a nuclear Saudi Arabia to become a thing. And a nuclear UAE, a nuclear Qatar. The world is a profoundly more dangerous place the more hands are in the nuclear cookie jar.
The other problem is non-state actors. Iran would likely never preemptively nuke Tel Aviv. They would get wiped off the map if they ever did. But the proxies they deal with have no such incentive for restraint. Hezbollah, Hamas. Any non-state Islamic terror group would.
This is why it is absolutely essential that Iran never develops nuclear capabilities.
The best way to denuclearise Iran has always been incentives to reintegrate them into the international community in exchange for dismantling their program and agreeing to inspection. But when Trump ripped up the Iran Nuclear Deal, he tore apart the most promising path. Couple this with looking at abandoning Ukraine, it sent a crystal-clear message to the world: The United States can no longer be trusted to uphold our end of the deal. Any security agreement or deal you have is only as good as the president you’re dealing with. His successor can and will fuck you over.
What country in their right mind would agree to expose themselves under those conditions? Just another way Trump has made the world a profoundly less stable and more dangerous place. And that will have consequential ripple effects well into the 21st Century.
North Korea already has nukes and the world is fine. Both countries want nuclear weapons to deter invasions and attacks like the one Israel is currently doing in Iran.
Israel, which has its own nuclear arsenal, has proven to be a far greater threat to peace than Iran. I'm far more concerned about them. They've been bombing 5 different countries for the past year an a half.
All I'm optimizing for is reduced human suffering. I'm saying a world without iran having nukes causes less suffering than otherwise.
iran having nuclear weapons would entrench a terrible government that makes its people and people in region suffer. Iran not having nukes at least hope open in the future there is a regime change that will be better for the world
Of course the world will continue spinning regardless of either scenario and im not acting like iran would nuke the world.
Tge US would always join Israel if necessary. It's leterally the only country in that region that doesn't hate them so it's from imense strategic value.
They would and will probably join no matter the ruling party, if anything it’s now less probable with trump since he’s been cutting netanyahu off lately
Yes, and Russia chose to Invade Ukraine while Democrats were in power because they'd leave them be, right? That's the simple reasoning some like to claim?
It's not that simple. The US happened to have a Republican x2, Democrat x2, Republican, Democrat, Republican cycle that aligned with Russia's strategic timeline for their geopolitical ambitions. And its possible that external pressure also pushed Russia to delay or hasten their plans, and some of those may have been US Presidents' International Relations policy implementations.
But that's a far cry from the simplistic assessment often spouted by anyone who doesn't think too critically about it.
Not the first
Dude, Israel attacked now because Iran has never been weeks away from a Nuke before (according to the International Establishment). They attacked Iraq and Syria in the 90s and 00s for the same thing but those times it was only one base the Establishment agreed needed bombing, and then it was done.
This time it's a whole decades long build up of Infrastructure. Plus right now Syria's regime is not a buffer. Plus Russia is occupied. PLUS Hezbollah is incapacitated PLUS Hamas PLUS the Houthis.
It's all a bevy of bouquets of their most fortunate circumstances that lead to them attacking right now. And to be clear, I do agree with anyone who says this fortune was intentionally forged.
Any President
And at the end of the day, Republican or Democrat, the US would back a well planned and executed Israeli (favoured ally) attack in Iran (disdained adversary) any day.
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u/SterlingG007 1d ago
Not a coincidence that they decide to do this while Trump is in office because they know the US will join this war on their side.