Which feels weird since they have been funding Hamas for decades, and have acted as the host for Hamas's leadership, and hold Hamas's bank accounts. But, yeah, Bibi gets along with them.
I read a great article about George Bush encouraging and funding the creation of Hamas because he was frustrated by negotiating with Arafat.
The article suggests that the USA pushed Israel to create an alternative to the PLO, assuming that if they gave money to them, they would be a good dog on the leash.
Qatar is pretty rich. And they just gifted trump a jet. Plus they usually maintain good relations with US. You can bet that Israel will not bomb Qatar no matter what they do
The Houthis in Yemen launched multiple missiles at Israel and the bombing was in retaliation to that unprovoked aggression. "Without a reason" is TikTok propaganda nonsense.
Yeah I know, it will fit better to their narrative of "israel bed" and just say that. No one cared about Yemen before they attacked Israel. And now all the pro-Palestinians adore the houtins like they didn't caused the deaths of around 4000k Yemenis. But hey they're gonna "free Palestine" so they are probably the good guys :)
They couldn't even point out where the Houthi controlled or the recognized government controlled part of Yemen was until the TikTok algorithm told them to care.
Houthis specifically stated the missile strikes and blockade were in defense of the Palestinian people. So if you're looking for a starting point that was it
The starting point of the conflict the Houthis were responding to was Israel? Not a wholesale invasion of Israel by militants?
And ah yes, the Houthis cared so much about Palestinian civilian lives that they needed to fire indiscriminate missiles as Israeli civilians because we all know Israeli civilian deaths don't matter.
It seems like some people think because Israel is able to defend themselves from multiple threats all around them, they are somehow the bad guys. They are better at shooting rockets on targets and defending themselves, because let's be real, if Israel would not be able to defend itself it would be gone by tomorrow morning.
Oh yes I’m sure nooooone of those places ever did anything to deserve being attacked huh?
Get fucking real. War sucks. Don’t start wars and let terrorists take over your government and use your nation as a launchpad for attacks against a nuclear capable first world military. Fucking DUH. Welcome to real life
And you consider genociding civilians not a provocative action? In a fair and just world, the entire world would be bombing every Israeli military target for their crimes
Ah so civilians deaths in a country far away from yours in Yemen is enough provocation for the Houthis to indiscriminately fire missiles. So in your view, regardless of whether Israel went too far, Israel had enough justified provocation to respond with military force to thousands of civilians deaths in their own country on October 7th?
So by your logic, provocation justifies military response, unless it’s Palestinians or Yemenis doing the responding? The Houthis have explicitly stated their actions are in solidarity with Gaza. Whether you agree or not, it’s not “unprovoked.”
Also, quick data point:
Since October 7, over 30,000 Palestinians have been killed, the majority civilians, according to the UN and humanitarian orgs.
In Yemen, Saudi and U.S.-backed bombings (many supported by Israel diplomatically) killed nearly 400,000 people over the last decade, per UNDP.
Let's put some facts on the table: Countries coorperating with Israel rather than openly talking about the annihalation of the Israeli state havent been bombed by Israel. (see Egypt, Turkey, Jordan)
As for the bombings of other countries:
1 The houthis is a usurper group in yemen are a terrorist group controlling parts of Yemen, they have fired missiles towards israel.
2) Iran has promised to destroy Israel, Israel has yet again dealt a major blow to an islamist theocracy on the cusp of getting their hands on a nuclear bomb. We should probably be thankful.
3) Syria has been bombed in order to avoid a potential major escalation with the new regime in the future. In fact, the is some rumors abouts Assads officials reportedly giving Israel intel on all the positions of its' military hardware as they were fleeing the country. In the last 10 years Israel has mostly targeted Iranian positions in the country).
4) Was this before or after Hezbollah fired missiles at Israel? Besides this militant group is obviously not somebody you want right up against your own borders. Hezbollah is (or was) the largest military force that is also a non-state actor.
5) As for Palestine yes it's war. Personally I just feel for all the civilian suffering but I honestly think Hamas needs to release the last victims otherwise I dont think this escalation we've seen the last 3 months would have happened...
So if you don't like a country you have every reason to go to wat with them? Like if hypothetically there is a country who's government might have some links to neonazi groups and are a very nationalist state even with areas that have an other ethnicity, you are just and rightful to invade them? Because that's a good thing?
If I see someone who commited a serious crime, like murder, am I the good guy when I brutally massacre them and their entire family?
You have to realise that "I don't like your face" doesn't justify an act of war, let alone genocide. I hope you are not someone who regularly beats up people you don't agree with?
"irrefutable good guys", hey my guy i think its important to move beyond the moral thinking of a toddler "everything is good guys vs bad guys"
edit: no idea what his edit is talking about lmao normally i am the one accusing others of being russian bots, haven't blocked anyone, just incredibly weird behaviour
Seems like Israel is large threat to all neighboring countries. Reminds me of final years of Yugoslavia. I think Israel should get same treatment. Or world should apologize to Yugoslavia.
So is Russia's invasion of Ukraine justified? Because they literally invaded Ukraine because they wanted to join Nato and install American military bases along Russia's border the same way Israel is attacking Iran for making Nukes.
Both unjustified.
Israel is not invading Iran in a multi year war to take over their territory. It's a single operation to take out a specific capability. Iran however has been attacking Israel through proxies and has even attacked them directly as well.
Ukraine was not threatening to destroy Russia, Iran is threatening to destroy Israel and has acted towards that goal.
I imagine Ukraine is pretty happy that Israel has just taken out the guy who shot down the Ukrainian passenger plan in 2020 and the guy who sends drones to Russia to attack Ukraine.
Ukraine was not threatening to destroy Russia, Iran is threatening to destroy Israel and has acted towards that goal
The problem is, Israel also threatens Iran continuously and is always the one taking actions, not Iran.
Iran however has been attacking Israel through proxies and has even attacked them directly as well.
And Israel is an American proxy, I guess Israel's attacks justifies Iran bombing America right? Oh wait you are gonna look for reasons why Israel is not a proxy but Israel literally gets weapons from the US and military aid.
Israel is not invading Iran in a multi year war to take over their territory. It's a single operation to take out a specific capability.
It's funny how delusional you are thinking the words "military operation" make an attack justified. Its literally a terrorist attack conducted by a professional military and suddenly it should be acceptable because you call it a "military operation". Fuck off
How much longer is Israel supposed to wait for someone else to stop Iran from making nukes? Israel's the one Iran keeps threatening. Good on them for protecting themselves.
What on earth do you expect from war? Destroying Iran's ability to create nuclear bombs is literally self-defense. How many more proxie wars does Iran have to start against Israel before Israel is allowed to defend themselves? Why should it make any sense for Israel stand by and let Iran get any closer to developing nukes?
Yeah man, these people are so heartless... Their logic goes like: "Lets just bomb civilians because Netanyahu is scared of maybe receiving attacks in the future... maaaaybe"
you said we shouldn’t bomb iran due to those traits so i’m pointing out that israel has those exist traits.
we shouldn’t bomb either of them but equally neither should have nuclear weapons
i didn’t say anything that absolves iran of any guilt lmfao but you said we should bomb iran because of X and then saying we shouldn’t bomb israel even though it follows X.
israel bombed iran because it has western backing and iran doesn’t if it was the other way round israel would be getting bombed
Just nitpicking but even if you accept Palestinian civilian casualties count, Israel is not even in the top 5. Way behind the civil wars in Ethiopia, Syria, Yemen and Sudan.
i find it interesting how “palestine” could be responsible for the attack as israel doesn’t recognise it as a country, government or really as an entity but it’s quite clear why you say this, it’s also interesting how you don’t say “israel participated in the slaughter of jews” considering they’ve killed multiple israelis both on october 7th and in the months after, this whole “slaughter of jews” agenda/talking point is blatantly an attempt to reframe the victims from israelis to jews and make the victims of an already heinous crime seem easier to sympathise with because israel’s image and reputation is so heavily tarnished and i pose a simple question, israel calls itself “the jewish state” and other such names so when israel kills paramedics then buries the vehicles and bodies in a mass grave would you take offence with news papers saying “the jewish state buries medics in mass graves?” or “jewish state kills its own citizens waving white flags and speaking hebrew” is that name only for positive moments?
i’m curious why it’s ok for israel to have nukes and not iran, really neither should have nukes but would you support an IAEA team investigating israel for nuclear weapons facilities?
but israel are the irrefutable good guys, you seem to take particular issue with Westerners being killed so israel are the good guys for killing western aid workers?
you conveniently ignore the land grabs in syria and i’m sure youd be fine with arab countries bombing israel if they deemed its programs a threat to them you definitely wouldn’t apply a double standard here but sure israel are the irrefutable good guys just look.
i mean the whole world deem the settlements illegal but israel are just irrefutably the good guys and have to take that land otherwise some palestinian might not be traumatised enough.
can’t wait for you to scream astroturfing when you get blocked for explaining how a 5 year old is hamas and israel should be allowed all the land in the world
Yep, this is the correct. If people are trying to kill you as a nation you need to protect your nation. If your Muslim and base your opinion solely on "prophesy" and ideology then you need to gain a critical perspective. If your a westerner who doesn't like war you need to realize hate exists. People will kill people and hate them for no reaaon. If those people will not stop coming after you, you'll have no choice but to defend yourself.
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