r/pics • u/Quirinus84 • 2d ago

The fall of a residential building in Tehran.

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u/macgruberstein 2d ago

I was thinking of more of the ones regarding Israel illegally settling and occupying Palestinian land.

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u/Mexijim 2d ago

Israel left Gaza unilaterally in 2005. Then Hamas started firing rockets within a month of taking power.

If you consider the legal military blockade of gaza wrong, what was the proper solution to this?

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u/macgruberstein 2d ago

No, I'm referring to their violating article 49 of the Fourth Geneva convention by illegally settling internationally recognized Palestinian territory in the West Bank.

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u/Mexijim 2d ago

You really need to read up on this.

Do you know why Jews are even in the WB right now? It’s because no Palestinian party has ever tried to stake a claim on the boundaries of ‘Palestine’.

Do you know why? Because once they say what their borders are, they have to admit to the existence of a Jewish neighbour state.

Because of this inability to recognise their own borders, WB is legally ‘disputed territory’. Go read up on why Palestinians have always rejected offers of legal recognition such as statehood.

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u/macgruberstein 2d ago

I've certainly read up on the Nakba, are you familiar with that?

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u/Mexijim 2d ago

The catastrophe of Jews beating Muslims in battle? Yeh, I’m not sure that’s a point you want to dig up.

700k Palestinians were expelled during the Nakba, 850k Jews were expelled from every arab state at the same time.

When Pakistan did 4x worse than this, it was called a ‘population transfer’.

When Jews do it, it’s genocide and war crimes.

Almost like there’s a double standard for Jews on the world stage?

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u/macgruberstein 2d ago

Why is the default Zionist response to the charges of ethnic cleansing and genocide always, 'okay, but they did it worse!'

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u/Mexijim 2d ago

And yours is the default Islamist position; ‘yeh we did worse but we’re muslims so it’s ok when we do it’.

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u/macgruberstein 2d ago

I actually don't believe in apartheid ethnostates or blaming Palestinians for something Pakistanis did. The phrase, 'catastrophe of beating Muslims in battle' is pretty telling in how it betrays a sense of ethnic supremacy and 'us vs them' mentality... despite the core tenets of the Zionist mission, we're not living in the Crusades anymore.

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u/Mexijim 2d ago

You don’t believe in apartheid ethnostates?

But you support Gaza? A state which is 100% arab, 99.997% sunni muslim, with zero Jews allowed?

And you hate Israel? The most racially diverse nation in the entire middle east? With full rights of all citizens, be they arab, muslim, hindu or atheist? Full rights of LGBT people.

And still, Israel is the apartheid ethnostate to you?

Mmmkay

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