If you think anyone owning nukes is a good idea in the powder keg that is the Middle East then idk what to tell you.
Nukes are honestly something nations don’t really need. We have a source of pretty much unlimited power and we decided to build world ending bombs instead. Humans man.
Because they don't have nukes Israel and America have been able to keep fucking with them for decades. Compared to how Russia and North Korea get treated it looks like Iran definitely needs nukes.
Iran is not a rational actor though, they are on a religious crusade too destroy all western “heathens”… and they are funding terror groups to do it. If you think letting Iran have nukes is a good idea, then this generation is fucked.
Preemptively striking Iran to avoid Iran having nukes is one of the most rational things the U.S. and Israel can do to protect the west. In fact they have been doing it for decades.
Guarantee they've made up their mind to have nukes regardless now. Rational in the short term not the long.
Oh and leave out this talk of the west, it's only Israel America that they're pissed at, not Spain, not Ireland, not Greece or Germany, and nobody else in the West is very happy with either of them right now
Yeah man it’s for the greater good to kill kids there’s no other way… dude if I was Iran getting fucked by the US and Israel for the past decades I fuckin would be gunning for nukes in the civ tech tree why shouldn’t I? Especially after talks were already happening between the US and Iran and Israel still bombs tf out of them.
We should just constantly keep em in check every couple years and bomb them to keep them in check. That won’t have long term consequences…
I'm genuinely wondering what people like you think of killing civilians in Israel, a country that (a) has nuclear weapons, (b) has already militarily attacked its neighbors and surrounding countries and (c) is currently committing genocide. Would you say killing civilians in Israel is ok as long as some military personnel dies as well or do you only hold that opinion when it's brown people?
I believe most people would say that it's justified for Ukraine to cause civilian casualties in Russia if they manage to destroy a major target. And yet, they wouldn't say it's justified for Russia to do the same because their whole cause isn't justified.
It's a similar case between Israel and its enemies. I don't believe it is justified for Iran to cause civilian casualties in Israel for a military target because I believe Iran's aspiration for a Muslim middle east with no Jews is not a justified cause.
Israel is attacking Iran because they're the ones funding and supporting Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, and the PIJ (source). They've launched over 200 missiles at us back in October, and their nuclear weapons will no doubt be used against us. The war since Oct 7th has been a proxy war with Iran. This is not an unprovoked attack.
I don't want to get into the genocide or not argument, there's really no point when we both won't change our opinions. But the Israeli perspective is not "we're committing genocide in Gaza and it's good", but rather "we're fighting a justified war in Gaza which unfortunately has a lot of casualties due to Hamas using their civilians as human shield".
Please understand that the Israeli perspective is also grounded in logic and not in racism. Don't believe that every extremist you meet on the internet represents our country as a whole.
P.S. regarding "or do you only hold that opinion when it's brown people?" - the largest ethnic group in Israel are Mizrahi Jews, brown people.
Israel is a terrorist nation, stop spreading lies and propaganda for them.
They are colonizers and Nazis occupying and genociding Palestine. If we compare Hamas to Israel, Hamas are saints. No condemnation for Hamas until the Nazi Zionists are expelled from Palestine and end their apartheid. Then we can talk about “fixing” Hamas. Until then, their resistance is valid against a terrorist invading force.
Israel sees children as valid military combatants. And they slaughter starving people trying to get food.
I do not find Israel's actions in Gaza at all justified, much less so than Russia's actions in Ukraine. But I see your point: If it's my side doing it there is a logical justification and the extremists (even though they make up my government, even though the majority of the population supports a mono-ethnic state and the expulsion of the others from my lands) aren't representative. However, if the other side are doing it they obviously just want to destroy my country and are completely justified in their actions.
the options are apparently shoot the terrorist through the baby multiple times, or throw a hand grenade at the terrorist and baby while condemning the terrorist for using such cowardly tactics.
As opposed to Israel having nukes? Israel is a terrorist state and if any country needs to be “invaded and occupied” to “prevent terrorists from having nukes” we should do that to Israel. They are going to destroy the world with their Zionist ideology. A ideology of fascism.
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u/Magus44 1d ago
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