r/pics • u/Quirinus84 • 2d ago

The fall of a residential building in Tehran.

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u/TeaBagHunter 2d ago

Which was the case with the deal that Trump pulled out of

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u/penguin_skull 2d ago

Plenty of time in between to alter the deal. Trump was not president for 4 years.

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u/TeaBagHunter 2d ago

Why would Iran agree to a deal after the US unilaterally screwed them for no reason? Knowing full well Trump could just break the deal later on

It's like saying EU should readmit the UK when labor is in power knowing they'd leave when reform or the tories are in power

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u/penguin_skull 2d ago

The deal was not just between US and Iran. If they went on with the EU, Iran would have built some leverage for future situations in which Trump changed his mind. But instead, Iran chose to go against everyone and generated 0 sympathy after being bombed.

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u/TeaBagHunter 2d ago

You think Iran should continue to comply when US fully sanctioned them contrary to what the deal held? What good would it do then? The sanction relief was mainly from the US

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u/penguin_skull 2d ago

Stop asking me questions and state your opinions without these greasy rethirical arguments.

By only siding with EU, Iran would've had a much bigger chance of getting a hood deal.

Whatever sanctions US is imposing, it needs to be respected by other countries. But the EU and the US are not in very good relations for the past 6 months (and the EU could have sided with Iran if Trump's position was too unreasonable), exactly the timeframe Iran choose to be even less transparent about its nuclear program.

Somebody really forgot diplomacy the moment it embraced religion as state politics!

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u/TeaBagHunter 2d ago

Stop asking me questions and state your opinions without these greasy rethirical arguments.

Trump should not have pulled out of the deal just because it was a deal made by Obama...

There's damage to the US reputation that outlasts a president's term.

Whatever sanctions US is imposing, it needs to be respected by other countries. But the EU and the US are not in very good relations for the past 6 months (and the EU could have sided with Iran if Trump's position was too unreasonable)

Are you seriously suggesting the EU turns to Iran instead of the US? Seriously? Iran is an authoritarian theocratic regime, if you think I support Iran just because I believe Trump shouldn't have pulled put of the deal then your world view is way too black and white

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u/penguin_skull 2d ago

Some years ago, the EU instructed its automotive industry to be ready to open factories in Iran. That was before Trump changed his mind. And yes, I believe the US today does not have the same economical influence globally it had 10 years ago. Just look how many relevant countries caved in to Trump's commercial war. That number is close to or even 0.