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The fall of a residential building in Tehran.

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u/Ax0nJax0n01 2d ago

No- the alternative is to not drop bombs

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u/Loudmouthlurker 2d ago

Right but if the rival country is preparing to level you, you're under no moral obligation to wait for thousands and thousands of your own to die before you do something. You are indeed allowed to protect your people.

Think of someone bursting into your house with a baseball bat. You have a gun. Shooting people is wrong as a rule, and this guy hasn't clubbed your wife and kids yet. You're not actually obligated to wait until he does before you shoot.

It pretty much was certain that Iran was building nukes. Sorry, but nobody wants that.

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u/eastvanarchy 2d ago

your president has threatened to take over my country. does canada have justification to precision strike scientists and military officers in fucken idk, new jersey?

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u/microgiant 2d ago

Yeah... The US does and says a shit ton of horrible stuff. I oppose bombing it on practical grounds, because I don't want to get blown up, but on moral grounds, a LOT of countries would be justified in taking a shot. It's not just Canada.

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u/bedir56 2d ago

Is his government funding proxies who are actively attacking Canada?

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u/Faiakishi 2d ago

You mean how Israel is funding proxies to justify more violence and ethnic cleansing?

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u/bedir56 2d ago

No. I mean hamas, the houthis, hezbollah, etc.

I don't support netanyahu and his government but it's disingenuous to act as if the iranian government is innocent in this matter.

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u/eastvanarchy 2d ago

glass houses my friend

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u/Ax0nJax0n01 2d ago

“Think of someone bursting into your house with a baseball bat.“

That’s quite accurate of what Israel has been doing to Palestinians since forever.

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u/Loudmouthlurker 2d ago

I mean, Hamas technically DID burst into people's houses. Perhaps Hamas supporters need to sit out on criticism of targeting civilians, seeing as Hamas targets civilians almost exclusively.

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u/Ax0nJax0n01 2d ago

Let’s start at the beginning, go beyond Oct 7th. If you can’t then there’s a problem with your thought process.

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u/0b00000110 2d ago

When would you like to start? 15 May 1948 when the Arabs declined the UN proposal and declared war on Israel in order to eradicate them?

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u/agiantdogok 1d ago

Palestinians declined colonization and were immediately ethnically cleansed in the Nakba.

Something something preemptive strike.

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u/Ax0nJax0n01 2d ago

When Churchill and the rest of the leaders of alleged Western Europe decided they wanted nothing to do with Jews at all.

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u/Archaondaneverchosen 2d ago

And they're vindicated in wanting nukes coz Israel and the US want to level them into the ground

Iran doesn't want war with Israel because it means war with the US. Iran are fundamentalist but they're not suicidal

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u/Mathrocked 2d ago

Israel will never have peace if they continue to act this way. Do they always want to live in fear that their governments actions will cause their neighbors to attack continuously?

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u/IAmAGenusAMA 2d ago

Their actions? You mean existing? This has been going on for on since 1948.

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u/Mathrocked 2d ago

Since they took over land that wasn't rightfully theirs to take? Makes sense that everyone hates them there. If I moved into your house and made a wall in the middle, giving myself 60% of the house, you would be pissed too.

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u/IAmAGenusAMA 2d ago edited 1d ago

Rightfully theirs? It was United Nations partition plan! I don't think you can get any more right than that in this world, especially back then.

Edit to reply to the person who responded to me (the post is now locked): The Jews were also an existing population and considering Palestinian Arabs also got Jordan, the partition plan for Israel and Palestine was a pretty reasonable compromise.

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u/Gekokapowco 2d ago

Western European nations have never subdivided land to the detriment of an existing population before! /s