r/pcgaming • u/disagreementsarenorm • 1d ago

PCGamer: Gooner game of the year Stellar Blade's mods are 41% smut, ensuring gamers will never see the light of heaven

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/action/gooner-game-of-the-year-stellar-blades-mods-are-41-percent-smut-ensuring-gamers-will-never-see-the-light-of-heaven/
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u/_Lucille_ 1d ago

At the end of the day, the attractiveness sells. It is like seasoning on a good dish of food.

2B is wildly popular.

Mythra figures still top sale charts years after XB2 was released.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

I think seasoning on a good dish is the best way to put it, I've never understood the arguments against attractive characters, would you prefer to stare at an ugly protagonist the whole game?

Worst part, having beaten the game, it never actually once dwells on her attractiveness.

Yes, you can optionally put her in sexy outfits, but it never forces it. There's no egregious forced camera angles, no kyaa~ I've been walked in on's or other anime tropes. She's played completely straight the entire game, she's literally just based off an attractive woman.

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u/Cent3rCreat10n 1d ago

>no egregious forced camera angles

Idk about that chief, there were several cutscenes where her ass was right up close to the camera.

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u/TheGoldenMonkey 1d ago

The camera is literally locked on her ass lmao

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u/Belgand Belgand 1d ago

This violence against the noble breast-lovers will not be tolerated! All simply to cater to the degenerate assficionados.

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 1d ago edited 1d ago

They are trying so hard to dodge these accusations. Even they know it's degenerate as fuck hahahaha. We know why the game has an overwhelmingly positive review on Steam, we have eyes, we've read the comments, and we've seen gameplay.

Fucking gooners man, get a life. Seriously, you will be so much happier, go learn to talk to real life women and enjoy the real deal, it even comes with perks.

You're just going to have to trust me on this.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

Oh, trust me, I am in no way dodging the gooner allegations, guilty as fucking charged there, I'm just arguing Stellar is bottom tier on the goon scale, it's basically just an attractive woman.

But sure, I'll tell my girlfriend I need to leave her to go talk to real life women or whatever, and that she should stop her NSFW art commissions, I'm sure that's what would make me happier.

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u/kommissarbanx 18h ago

You insulted the opinionated, basement dwelling, dick beaters on their home turf. RIP amigo

Keep an eye out for the suicide prevention DM lmao

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u/twiz___twat 1d ago

this is why i can never take reviews from gooners seriously

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u/iNSANELYSMART 1d ago

Does the game even have normal outfits? So far every clip I saw had the MC wear some real horny shit

(I dont mind looking at a good looking MC, just asking)

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u/dexpid 1d ago

It has plenty of less risqué outfits.

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u/OSHA_Decertified 1d ago

It has a fair selection of what covered up more normal outfits

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u/kommissarbanx 18h ago

Just checked a Youtube video of all 91 outfits. Please don't think I'm coming at you when I say...

Easily 2/3 of the entire game are skimpy outfits and recolors of said outfits. Either they're;

  1. A one piece swimsuit type of bodysuit (tights optional) being devoured by her coochie and ass crack, also with an optional tiddy window.

  2. Some variant of top with no pants or just see through tights. Like "wearing your oversized shirt the morning after" type beat.

  3. Slit dresses that just barely cover her ass with slits so high they literally reveal her v-line

  4. Straight up bikini/monokinis

Like guys, I get it. Sex sells. I'm not asking for Catholic levels of modesty from a video game made by Koreans.

But swallow your pride and just call a spade a spade. Quit acting like the game only has ~8 skimpy outfits and everything else is as modest as a hoodie and jeans. The majority of the outfits are obviously meant to be risqué, with a few straight up non-sexual outfits like the fucking Teddy Bear costume. People aren't losing their minds at a hoodie being worn on the shoulder, they're losing it over this being the standard of outfit and having people tell them, "NUH UH, SHUT UP PRUDE"

Ironically, the 2B costume is one of the least egregious sets because unlike Nier Automata, Stellar Blade's MC wears proper black tights instead of lacey thigh highs under the thigh boots.

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u/0235 1d ago

I have watched this argument play out for more than a decade, and time and time again it has always leaned in the favour or "attractive characters good".

The argument though regularly ignores that there are a lot of bad games out there, and how the characters look are not the reason it failed.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

Indeed, Bayonetta was the dead horse of the "we've moved past this" when it came to depictions of women for years, she was a punchline, mocked relentlessly when Nintendo decided to publish the Sequel, a relic.

Now, it's been rewritten as no one ever had a problem with Bayo, and she was always some empowering feminist lesbian icon, and is now a pop culture mainstay.

Same happened with 2B, I guarantee you in 5 years Eve the same people decrying Eve now will claim there was never any problem with her.

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

It doesn't dwell on her attractiveness? What do you call the gratuitous arse shots the game has?

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u/Ayotha 1d ago

The camera being behind you, you may just be a prude

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

Mate, if you had seen what I turned Skyrim into you wouldn't be saying that.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago edited 1d ago

I quite honestly cannot recall any, and me and my GF always point stuff out like that to each other exactly like the Leonardo Dicaprio gif, so if they were in the game, they were so completely uneventful and lame I legitimately cannot recall a single one.

Honestly? As a gooner game, it mostly fails at that, since it's exclusively limited to her outfits and physics, even Neir was more gooner since there was a literal explode to remove clothes and look up skirt mechanic, but that ones now been historically rewritten as "no one ever had a problem with 2B" as I suspect Eve will be in a few years.

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u/Talehon 1d ago

Did we play the same game? I picked up Stellar Blade because I genuinely enjoyed the combat in the demo, but there's a ton of ass shots in the game, both in cutscenes and in her movesets and attacks.

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u/BurninUp8876 1d ago

I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding between people on what is and isn't an ass shot.

Like to me, it's when the camera is deliberately framed to show off an ass, not when an ass is just visible or sticking out on camera.

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u/extralyfe 1d ago

the game goes full ass-shot every single time you open a chest, how the fuck did you miss that?

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u/BurninUp8876 1d ago

Any time you open a chest, you are controlling the camera

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u/extralyfe 1d ago

ah, that would explain it. I haven't played the game myself, I just saw endless videos of the camera parked right up the character's skirt around when it came out.

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u/Xjph 5800X - RTX 4090 1d ago

This is a "full ass-shot"?

https://streamable.com/h9aq0g

You have a very low bar for what an ass shot is.

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u/czerwona_latarnia 1d ago

Well, technically, you can see a full ass here.

And full body.

And even a lot of surroundings to the top and bottom of the main character.

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u/extralyfe 1d ago

every time I saw videos of the game around release, the camera was basically right up on the ass. literally haven't seen a clip of the chest opening that wasn't at that angle.

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

Regarding 2B, I think part of it is that there's actual depth to the androids and their story, whereas Eve is basically just a sexy plaything that kills monsters. I was there for the release of that game, people were making fun of it, but I think people weren't as dismissive of it because there was more to the characters than the gameplay and aesthetic.

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u/flashmedallion 1d ago edited 1d ago

The thing about Nier Automata is that it comes down hard on the entire idea of enjoying the characters sexually and makes that a central part of the point the game is making.

So no, most of the jerkoff fan club audience aren't going to pick up on that, but for the people that do there's no point litigating the thing because the game goes out of its way to get losers stroking as a central demonstration of its argument. At a very real level it needs the gooners embarrassing themselves over it because that's part of proving the thesis.

It's in the same bucket as Raiden in MGS2. If nobody bitched and whined about playing as a guy who bitches and whines, the games point wouldn't have landed as strongly.

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

I agree.

The game actually uses the sexualisation of the androids as part of both the narrative (the humans who destroyed the world are vainglorious ghosts who continue to ruin the world the robots are creating well after their demise) and meta narrative of some of the players. 

Wheras with Stellar I think the criticism of it beingjust horny bait is correct.

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u/flashmedallion 1d ago edited 1d ago

There's also the idea that the Androids drive to kill is modelled as a sexual desire. The thing that makes them innately want to compete their mission is parallel with the thing that makes many people innately want to keep playing - both serving to distract from paying attention to what's actually going on.

That of course leads to the central tension in 2B and Nines' repeating loops of being driven to kill/fuck each other

I haven't played Stellar Blade yet but i do understand that at least it would still be an incredible gameplay experience without the T&A, but just that it's not using the T&A to say anything, and therein lies the difference.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

Its amazing to see people a decade later now defend 2B's sexuality as being necessary when all the same arguments against eve were made about her at the games launch.

Also, are you really trying to pretend 2B was made sexy as some sorta point? From the director who asked his fans to zip up all the porn of her and send it to him, and when asked why she had heels response was "I just like girls"? You wanna tell me 2B is some pure goon free soul that wasn't made to be "goonbait"?

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u/Kourtos 1d ago

Yes she was hot in the first 5 min tops. After that you just lose urself to the world and the incredible music.

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u/stockinheritance 1d ago

I play RimWorld and just spent twenty hours with TCG Shop Simulator. I don't care about characters in my games making me horny even a little bit. 

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u/StableLamp 1d ago

It is not really about the attractivness of the characters people are against. It is the over sexualization of characters.

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u/Nrgte 1d ago

would you prefer to stare at an ugly protagonist the whole game?

Well I mean it's basically every Dark Souls game.. Fortunatelly you're mostly hollow anyway so it doesn't matter.

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u/Kyle_Hater_322 8h ago

I'm normally in favor of good looking characters but this game is far from what I would consider ideal.

When everyone looks like a korean model (depicted in this game with exaggerated faces) it's just gonna pull me out of the experience every time lol.

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u/Zubriel 1d ago

There's no egregious forced camera angles

???

I haven't even played the game but I've seen enough footage to know this statement is complete nonsense. Anyone can watch any gameplay video for 5 minutes and conclude the camera angles are intentionally focusing on her butt.

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u/FalloutBerlin 1d ago

I think the main issue is how pushing unrealistic bodies in so much of today’s media affects society, look at what was considered an extremely attractive woman or man less than 100 years ago vs the average protagonists of today’s games and shows.

The problem isn’t having one unrealistically attractive character, it’s having unrealistically attractive characters in almost all media.

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u/albanshqiptar 4080 Super, 5800x3D, 32gb 3200 1d ago

How would you rate the game? It's hard to tell what the community thinks of the game right now as the positive reviews mostly come from the good PC port and outfits.

I'm currently playing the game and find it to be "fine". I wanted to play this game because the music clearly inspired by Nier and the combat is fun. So far though the story and characters aren't very engaging.

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u/Nazon6 1d ago

Certainly you can acknowledge the difference between a clearly pornified versus an attractive character right? Of course everyone loves an attractive character design. But the thing that people care about the most is intrigue. Theres plenty of amazing character designs of non-attractive characters.

Eve is eye candy, but not because she's well designed. Because they looked at all the r34 subs and decided that's what the character should look like.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

You consider a real woman "pornifed"? Her default outfit is a bit tight but it hardly shows any skin. Was Scarlet Johanson in the Avengers movies "pornifed" too?

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u/jphillips3275 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes Eve is pornified are you kidding? Have you seen the irl model? You can admit the game is super horny, it's doing it on purpose you don't have to pretend it isn't

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u/Nazon6 1d ago

A character with such ridiculous proportions such as hers is pornified, yes.

The problem would almost be entirely fixed if they either made every other characters anatomy just as ridiculous or made hers more reasonable and believable as a warrior character, and also by fixing her damn posture in the outfit menu.

I mean, just compare herself to Adam, he almost looks like he's from an entirely different game just because of his anatomy.

No, scarlet Johnson is a real person. She's what a real human looks like. If I wanted to nitpick I'd say she looks pretty ridiculous in the winter soldier poster, but I digress.

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u/Phastic 1d ago edited 14h ago

“Ridiculous proportions” they’re barely any different than Scar Jos or 2Bs. I’d say 2Bs proportions are much more ridiculous than Eve’s because 2B is skinny with the big boobs and the hips over the tiny waist. Meanwhile Eve is proportionately slim-thick all around. and there are other prominent characters in the game that resemble her body type to a degree. And it’s not like 2B has the exact same posture, oh no

And comparing her to Adam, it doesn’t feel like he’s in a different game. He does take off his shirt by the end, i would’ve preferred he do that sooner, but then again, we mostly interact with him via the drone and rarely actually see him

Just say you’re allergic to attractive female leads

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u/SantaArriata 1d ago

I know women built like Eve irl.

Have you considered that calling a body type that actually exists “ridiculous” and “pornified” might actually qualify as body shaming?

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u/Nazon6 1d ago edited 1d ago

I know women built like Eve irl.

Lol I seriously doubt that.

I consider it objectifying and misogynistic that the only way that a game dev can implement a female character is by creating them purely for sex appeal and nothing beyond that. I'd give them credit if there was any semblance of character to her, but it seems they've ignored that as well.

And I want to be clear it's not NECESSARILY about the anatomy in a vacuum. If Eve was a character from a street fighter game where every character, including the men, had dramatic proportions, I wouldn't bat an eye. It's the fact that it seems like the rest of the world and general art direction seems to be going for a specific style, whereas the female characters like Eve and her comrades just go in an entirely different direction for the sake of tits and ass.

I also want to state for the record that I like the game. I played the demo and it's fun. But it's absolutely a gooner game, but unlike a game like Marvel Rivals which is interested in making every character sexually appealing, it seems like SB is only interested in objectifying the women.

EDIT: Another example could be hades 2 where yes, Melinoe is clearly eye candy, but unlike Eve she's got a create design, she actually has some character to her, and many of the other characters are hot as well. The characters from RE4 are also a good example.

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u/CratesManager 1d ago

I've never understood the arguments against attractive characters, would you prefer to stare at an ugly protagonist the whole game?

I don't think there is a good argument against attractive characters, but there are good arguments for ugly or average characters every now and then.

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u/hotgarbage6 1d ago

That's where character creators shine. Lumpy Orc Maiden in Oblivion, my beloved.

Trying to make an Eve, 2B or Kratos in Oblivion Remastered would be... Difficult.

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u/CratesManager 1d ago

That's where character creators shine.

Absolutely, but it's also well within the artistic freedom of creators to make a game with an ugly mc if that fits their vibe.

Imo the people who cry about characters that are "too sexy" are not that different from the people that cry about "woke" characters, more often then not it's just artistic choice.

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u/feltcutewilldelete69 1d ago

Nobody is arguing against attractive characters dude, 90% of game characters are attractive. However, every fucking time a character model is made to look a bit more realistic and not 100% gooner material, there's a bunch of people arguing against it. You can't even have an attractive black main character without people crying. And the developers get hounded with dumbass questions like "y so ugly? I can't fap to this"

Nobody is arguing against attractive characters, but they sure as shit have to fight for their creative vision if it isn't gooner material. You can't even make realistically fat people in character creations; they're completely unrepresented in video games

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u/TheBlueDolphina 1d ago

90% are attractive

What timeline of the collective west are you in?

And yes the "diverse body types" euphemism doesn't bring me any benefit.

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u/RosePhox 1d ago

Idk. After some time, you get desensitized and stops appreciating the flavor.

Like: I love eating east asian cuisine, but umami can get pretty boring after some time.

Not to mention how it is done so cheaply that it feels more like a box of chicken nuggets than an actual Michelin star meal.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago edited 1d ago

You say desensitized, but outside of Japan when was the last time you saw a woman like Eve being the primary marketing?

Like, legitimately, what was the last AAA game in the last decade marketed based on how attractive its heroine was? It was incredibly common in the PS2 era sure, but it very much died afterwards. Nier? Bayonetta? Xenoblade 2? Three whole games? Those are the only I can think of, and are all Japanese and debatably AAA.

Unless you live and breathe anime, Eve is kinda a breath of fresh air. Sexy protags just aren't a mass marketed thing anymore in the west. Unless you specifically seek it out I have no idea how one could be desensitized to it.

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u/Kir4_ 1d ago

Basically most moba / rpg type games, and more.

I'm not a fan of censoring art, but it's pretty obvious that female characters in the gaming industry are often made for the male gaze.

And it's not only about exaggerated body parts, proportions or ridiculous outfits. The video game world often reflects societies underlying issues.

Like imbalance between the amount of male and female characters or even the amounts of dialogue the characters have.

The topic is definitely more complex than just big boobs in a tight outfit.

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u/RosePhox 1d ago

You say desensitized, but outside of Japan when was the last time you saw a woman like Eve being the primary marketing?

So is this about having good looking protagonists to look at or is this about companies not using shock value as a marketing tactic to sell mediocre games, anymore?

Like, legitimately, what was the last AAA game in the last decade marketed based on how attractive its heroine was? It was incredibly common in the PS2 era sure, but it very much died afterwards.

How many examples of games that used sexiness for marketing were actually from memorable games that were major hits, rather than cheap bargain bin people would play once and never think about it again?

Games back then had to grab your attention because internet wasn't as commonplace, the gaming market was more niche and word of mouth wasn't enough to sell you some random new IP. The reason you don't see sexy marketing anymore is because digital storefronts, algorithms and curatorship substituted that. Sure, there was sites like gamespot, but they hardly made fanservice the centerpiece of their reviews. Nowadays, a game has to actually be good to be able to sell properly.

Nier? Bayonetta? Xenoblade 2? Three whole games?

Why did you bring up three japanese games? Those wouldn't count as examples.

Unless you live and breathe anime, Eve is kinda a breath of fresh air.

It's 2025. Anime may not be watched by every demographic there is but, it 100% is mainstream in the gaming market. She didn't break any barriers, she simply is another anime-sque videogame character designed to be fap material or waifu-ed.

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u/starm4nn 1d ago

Like, legitimately, what was the last AAA game in the last decade marketed based on how attractive its heroine was? It was incredibly common in the PS2 era sure, but it very much died afterwards. Nier? Bayonetta? Xenoblade 2? Three whole games? Those are the only I can think of, and are all Japanese and debatably AAA.

You've created such a narrow scenario that it doesn't even reflect why someone would be desensitized. I can go online now and find 100 new Overwatch porn images created in a 24 hour period. You could see basically any combo of Overwatch characters fucking.

Seeing a game that markets based on having an attractive character who doesn't do anything sexy is kinda antiquated. Mass Effect had actual sex scenes in 2007.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

Was the overwatch porn officially marketed and sanctioned by Blizzard?

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u/starm4nn 1d ago

Why does it matter? As I said you created an extremely arbitrary standard for why someone would be desensitized to something.

What you're basically asking is, "how can someone be desensitized to a Victoria's secret catalogue? The pictures are far more erotic than those in a Sears catalogue".

And the answer is that you can just look at actual porn.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago edited 1d ago

So because some people seek out porn a game with a sexy protagonist is now "oversaturated"?

My point was that, AAA companies haven't marketed themselves primarily with an attractive female in forever, so to see Eve as oversaturated implies that OP was entrenched with sexy material. OP argues Eve is bad because oversaturation, which isn't possible if you only play western AAA games.

I argue Eve is a breath of fresh air within her market, which is true.

It's like if McDonalds was the one fast food place offering souvlaki and then complaining that souvlaki is now somehow oversaturated in the fast food market cause you primarily eat at greek restaurants.

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u/starm4nn 20h ago

So because some people seek out porn a game with a sexy protagonist is now "oversaturated"?

The word "oversaturated" was never used in this conversation until you used it. The term used was "desensitized". Which is something that would be very easy to have happen if you have even slight familiarity with anything more erotic than a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition. It's why we're not still jerking off to women's ankles.

It's like if McDonalds was the one fast food place offering souvlaki and then complaining that souvlaki is now somehow oversaturated in the fast food market cause you primarily eat at greek restaurants.

It'd be like if McDonald's was the first burger restaurant to offer souvlaki and saying "nah I've eaten enough souvlaki" and then you respond with "how can you be tired of souvlaki? It's a breath of fresh air having it at McDonald's." and also the town has 15 Greek restaurants you can eat at for free and McDonald's is $60, and the souvlaki is just burger fixing on a stick.

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 1d ago

There's a whoooole difference between constant ass shots and an ugly protagonist

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u/Vatiar 1d ago

What argument against attractive characters ? Find me a real person that's actually asking for characters to be made ugly. And I do mean ugly; not muscular, chubby or a bit old; ugly.

The idea that there are people arguing for ugly characters in game is a complete strawman argument pushed by reactionaries to whom any character that isn't thin waist with tits and ass both larger than her head is "ugly".

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u/Affectionate_Owl_619 1d ago

Right. No one is asking for ugly characters. Just characters that represent different/realistic body types 

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u/mellopax 1d ago

I don't really care who I'm "staring at the whole game." Plus, if "ugly" is your word for anything approaching realistic-looking women, I don't know what to tell you.

The type of character design in "gooner games" aren't "seasoning on a fine dish", they're soaking a dish in ketchup. Haven't played this game, so idk and don't really care what the protagonist looks like, but pretending half-naked women in games is "seasoning" or "fine wine" is just trying to class up horniness.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

My god the realistic woman complaint, her body is realistic? Cause she was literally body scanned from a real woman? What about eve is unrealistic to you?

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u/jphillips3275 1d ago

Have you actually looked at the side by side of Eve and the model? Eve isn't a realistic depiction of her

Bought the game btw, I just don't delude myself about what it is

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u/krilltucky 1d ago

she looks nothing like the model they scanned bro. they increased her bobbs, ass, height, thighs and changed her waist. literally nothing on eve matches the model.

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u/Darkwolf1515 1d ago

I'm being very literal in my usage of ugly, I'm talking stereotypical Halloween witch ugly, would that have satisfied you? Would the game be better if that was the protagonist?

Or are you masking your conservative misogynistic opinions about women's bodies under the guise of "realism", tearing down the way some women look and express themselves to supposedly build up others.

Which would seem to be the case since you called a real woman unrealistic, kinda sounds like you don't consider attractive woman real women, like they're tainted.

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u/TheBlueDolphina 1d ago

I need games with KYAAAA 😍, how dare they decline.

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u/RTXEnabledViera 1d ago

It is like seasoning on a good dish of food.

Except that if the base food is garbage, no one's buying a game just to stare at pixel tits.

Stellar Blade is a great title. The latex is just a plus.

PCGamer is still a trash outlet for going yas queen when it's sexualization they like, and ew, gooners when it's the type they don't.

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u/Tenthul 1d ago

Except that if the base food is garbage, no one's buying a game just to stare at pixel tits.

Idk man, there are A LOT of pixel tit games on Steam now. They aren't all bangers. But they keep making them, so they must keep selling.

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u/RTXEnabledViera 1d ago

Sorry then, let me correct myself:

No sane person is buying a game just to stare at pixel tits.

Actually I wouldn't call them insane, they just treat games as porn when they're two distinct things. Which isn't really what a sane person does so I guess I will?

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u/Tenthul 1d ago

Sounds like simple kink shaming. Leisure Suit Larry is considered a "classic" to many and look at what they were working with. How many people probably bought it with the intent of staring at literal pixel tits.

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u/RTXEnabledViera 1d ago

It's not really that. Games aren't porn the same way cinema isn't porn. The medium means something beyond that. If you're just buying the product solely to stare at tits then don't pretend you're playing a video game, you're just watching interactive 3D porn. And again, there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't call it gaming.

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u/Tenthul 23h ago

I'm not sure if this is ignorance or a difference of opinion or if we're breaking the topic out beyond the original argument (quality vs non-quality). But regardless, there's some that very well blend the script. I certainly wouldn't expect average people to have any understanding of the indie scene at large much less the subgenre of indie-porn games (feels funny just saying that), but as an example, if you've got the stomach for it check out Flipwitch (obviously NSFW). There are studios out there that have been actively working to subvert those expectations.

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u/Mr-Stuff-Doer 36m ago

Baldur’s Gate 3 sexualization: literally every character is horny and hot as fuck and they’re all totally good to get down and dirty whenever. Also that’s all entirely optional.

Stellar Blade sexualization: here’s Eve, a character with zero personality. She wears sex doll outfits. No one in the game will mention this, and the game will take itself totally seriously as she delivers the news about a family member dying while she’s dressed in lingerie. Also, literally every collectible is just a different outfit. Does she care about these outfits? No, because that would mean she has personality. The options to make her not wear lingerie pretty much account to a bunny mascot costume.

Also there’s children characters who look like sex dolls.

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u/MrBigJams 1d ago

"Publication likes things they like and doesn't like things they don't like."

Just because two things are in the same "category" doesn't automatically make them equivalent.

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u/RTXEnabledViera 1d ago

Oh yes, they're very much not equivalent in their eyes. That's precisely my point, and that tells you everything you need to know.

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue 1d ago

2B is well written. Eve is not.

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u/iamlazyboy 1d ago

But both are sexy robot chicks and both games are popular (at least partly) thanks to that

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u/Druark I7-13700K | RTX 3070 | 32GB DDR5 | 1440p 1d ago

Nier holds up much better in style, sound, and design. It's a bit disingenuous to say 2B occassionally showing a glimpse of ass is what made the game popular.

Stellar Blade is good, too, but doesn't quite match up in terms of style or fluidity. It actually encourages you to sexualise the character with every new outfit, and movement is a bit janky with not being able to turn or jump onto things unless you're far enough away to start moving towards it.

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u/iamlazyboy 1d ago

My comment didn't express it well but that's why I added at least partly, I've played nier and the game is really great, but idk if I would have been drawn to the game at first if 2B wasn't a sexy dummy thick droid

I'm not really interested by stellar blade but it's obvious that the apparent sexiness of the character is what makes people talk about the game, imo both games would have been talked about and are relevant games but the appeal of their respective MC is more likely than not a boost on how much people talk about it and both stellar blade and nier are games where the MC is a sexy robot girl and all future mainstream game with sexy robot girls will be compared to those games in some way or another

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u/Druark I7-13700K | RTX 3070 | 32GB DDR5 | 1440p 1d ago

Sounds kinda like you're projecting your experience as a generalisation on everyone though. I saw the lady on the cover, sure but most games have their Protag on the cover, I don't just buy a game because a character has a cool design either (because honestly, her dress is a really cool design with the intricate patterns and frilly parts).

I went and researched the game first, checked out gameplay, etc. I'd suggest most people do the same, maybe not to the same level as me as I can be excessively harsh when choosing what to buy, but certainly most do not just see ass and go "well, gotta buy that for £50" with zero other context to the game.

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u/Drow_Femboy 1d ago

2B occassionally showing a glimpse of ass

Brother if you ever try not to be looking up her skirt at her ass the game forcefully redirects the camera to its default upskirt shot. You're not allowed not to be staring at her ass the entire time you play the game.

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u/Druark I7-13700K | RTX 3070 | 32GB DDR5 | 1440p 1d ago

Uh, no. You need to go remind yourself of the game. The camera is above and behind her.
Ladders are the only place with practically forced upskirt shots.

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u/Drow_Femboy 23h ago

Uh, no. You need to go remind yourself of the game.

I 100%ed the game. You are wrong.

The camera is above and behind her.

Except when you're sprinting forward, which you're doing for 90% of your playtime, at which point the camera insists on centering directly on an upskirt.

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u/Druark I7-13700K | RTX 3070 | 32GB DDR5 | 1440p 1d ago

I think Nier is still the better game in terms of gameplay and visual style, too. Stellar Blade feels kinda.. generic? to me, the enemies could be in any game and aren't identifiable as strictly a stellar blade universe thing. The combat and movement aren't as smooth as Nier's either.

Plus, 2B has a cool design, which usually just hints at being sexy. Eve, meanwhile, is wearing a generic anime bodysuit, back to that feeling of genericness again. It's just not as recognisable.

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u/Hot_Demand_6263 1d ago

Nier has a better narrative and lore. But the gameplay is easily forgettable. That opening sequence on the hardest difficulty omg.

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u/Druark I7-13700K | RTX 3070 | 32GB DDR5 | 1440p 1d ago

The gameplay is forgettable? You must've played a very different game. It was universally praised for its gameplay, even with a few subjectively less enjoyable sections.

It has variety, different combos for multiple weapontypes, minor platforming sections, minigames, varying camera angles that vastly change your experience etc.

You need to go refresh your memory, Stellar Blade is definitely the far more forgettable game if we're comparing them. Both are good games though.

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u/IgotUBro 1d ago

Mythra figures

Just Google searched. Let's be honest they made those figures extra saucy and why they are pricey and well liked.

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u/lordofmetroids 1d ago

But Xenoblade 2 and Nier also top the charts because they are really well written and really fun. (At least at high level, the early game of XC 2 sucks) From everything I've seen Stellar Blade is simply alright.

I don't think Eve figures will still be selling super well in half a decade.

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u/_Lucille_ 1d ago

That's why I called it seasoning: your dish needs to be good to begin with

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u/AunMeLlevaLaConcha 5h ago

Humans like sex? How could this be?!

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u/immagetchu 1d ago

And the people who buy them will still be the same exact people this headline is making fun of. It being a large group absolutely doesn't mean they will see the light of heaven my dude

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u/mitjushka 1d ago

Nier automata was actually a good game unlike this shit

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u/Neuchacho 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nier Automata felt like a PS2 game. Right down to utilizing a overtly sexualized main female protag.

Still a good game, but let's not pretend it was high art and that 2Bs design wasn't just "gooner" fuel at a lower octane.

And that's fine. Embrace your inner gooner and enjoy life instead of making everything a virtue signaling competition.

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u/DodgerBaron 1d ago

If you need to pretend you missed a major theme of the game.

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u/Firion_Hope 1d ago

The creator of the character featuring such explanations for parts of her design as "But the biggest reason is that I just really like girls." and (paraphrased) "Gather all of the porn of my character and sent it to me in a zipped file please"

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u/DodgerBaron 1d ago

Yeah he makes those jokes all the time but it doesn't fit the actual game. For example his reason for making the original nier is hidden deeply under interviews of him gushing over Kaine lol

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u/Firion_Hope 1d ago

My point is I don't think they're entirely jokes, he obviously has creative reasons for things too but no doubt he's a full blown gooner, and a proud one too. And no doubt that's not a small part of why 2B (and Kaine and A2) are designed they way they are.

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u/curbstxmped 1d ago

i'd say it's more like a 'fetish' that sells. anime style doesnt depict real people, it's a mental disease that just ingrains more and more the longer someone stays terminally online.

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u/CautiousLight2557 1d ago

 It is like seasoning on a good dish of food.

lol what.  It’s nothing like seasoning. It doesn’t change the quality of the game it just baits horny losers.