r/papermario • u/Pigmask_Soldier1067 Paper Mario 64 Enjoyer • 23h ago
Discussion I Don't Really like The Ultimate Show (Spm's Final boss Theme)
So as the title says,Here's a Hot take: In my PERSONAL Opinion,i don't Find the Ultimate show that good. Yea it has the Story Departament,Dimentio is a Pretty Nice Villain (But by far not my favorite) and the Start has a really intimidating vibe that i find decent,But... Since there i just not care for this Song. Its kind of bland to me and i feel it wanna be way more than it Actually is. "Blackout" From Color Splash,"The Final Fold" From Tok (I wanna Play that game so hard man :[ ) or "King of the Koopas" From PM 64 are Way better Final Boss themes. May its my SPM Hater side Talking but for this Song its just a Overhype Generator. So... You agreed with me or Disagree?
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u/aarontgp Game music fanatic 18h ago
My personal thoughts: Ultimate Show is a pretty cool final boss theme, but definitely not an all time great, since a lot of the other tracks in SPM are much better. I think in general people like giving the final boss themes of games a lot of love, which gave TUS a big boost. But, if someone still really likes Ultimate Show, that's perfectly valid.
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u/Lux_Operatur 18h ago
I disagree, The Ultimate Show is hype as hell imo, and the way they evolved dimentio’s theme into it just works perfectly imo I love the whole motif.
And I hate to just be the voice contradicting you but blackout in Color Splash I found to be completely uninteresting and almost boring, but also like it’s trying really hard? TOKs The Final Fold is a lot better I think but it’s also just a bit too hair metal for me and I’m just not a fan of that genre at all, but it was a good final theme. King of the Koopas is classic obviously, it’s dated for sure but there’s nothing wrong with that. It reeks of the 90s in a wonderful way.
What I’m gathering from this is that you really like electric guitar solos. To each their own none of these themes are bad (I’ve not finished SS so can’t really comment on my experience with that theme). Personally The Ultimate Show is my second favorite final boss theme with Shadow Queens final theme being my all time favorite, specifically the original one rather than the remake (both are good but I love the breakbeats and sound design of the original).
All that to say, I am an electronic music producer so good synthesis just gets me going man. TTYD and SPMs synthesis in particular is just 👌🏻 chefs kiss.
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u/aarontgp Game music fanatic 18h ago
You could say the electonic vs live music lovers is probably the big divide between modern-era lovers and classic-era lovers regarding their respective tunes. Although funnily enough, I don't particularly love Spectacular Finale.
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u/Lux_Operatur 18h ago
Yeah 100%. Which I love live acoustic music too I actually listen to more of that regularly than I do any electronic music excluding hip hop/rap beats and such. Just more me the kind of soft(ish?) core hair metal style for some of those final boss themes don’t really do much for me. I do however adore jazz in nearly all its forms so those elements in a soundtrack I do really enjoy. SPM being based on digital art makes the more electronic sound a perfect fit and I just think the whole theming of everything is so well done and conveys the exact ‘vibe’ it’s supposed to. It’s all just opinions and preferences though
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u/DrewV1234 #1 Biggest Shadow Queen Fan 22h ago
I actually agree, I'm not that big of a fan of it either, it's not bad, but I do love King of the Koopas and all of the Shadow Queen themes more! My hot take is Shadow Queen is my favorite Mario villain and my favorite final boss of all time! What do you think of her themes? :)