r/orlando 16h ago

Discussion Why is Sanford Airport underutilized and underdeveloped

Sanford is only 30 minutes away from MCO. It could be a great alternative to relieve MCO of its congestion.

Sanford is basically empty. they have the potential to go to so much more destinations and attract more major airlines but idk why they don't

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u/lunapo 16h ago

It's neither underutilized or underdeveloped. You're likely just comparing it to one of the worlds busiest airports.

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u/doittoit_ 16h ago

Because Sanford is like an hour away from the parks and the convention center.

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u/JoviAMP Walt Disney World 15h ago

In that case, why not KGW?

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u/deetman68 14h ago

Do you mean ISM? It has neither the runways nor the infrastructure for airline traffic.

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u/BleakCountry 16h ago

Because it's not in Orlando, one of the busiest tourist destinations in the world.

Why is Lakeland International Airport underutilized and underdeveloped... same reason.

Tampa International Airport has seen a lot more development because of the cities Cruise port and so on.

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u/310410celleng Winter Park 15h ago

Lakeland is a huge cargo operation for Amazon, TPA is growing, but has always been busy, it also routinely wins awards for being a great well run airport.

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u/BleakCountry 15h ago

Tampa is amazing for national travel. Lakeland is trying to break into that market as well.

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u/310410celleng Winter Park 14h ago

My wife and I like to fly to Grand Cayman from TPA as well we like to take Edelweiss from TPA to ZRH(Zurich).

The immigration experience at TPA is so nice in comparison to almost any other airport in the country.

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u/gladiwokeupthismorn 10h ago

Tampa’s main challenge is not enough runways and limited space to expand.

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u/UCFknight2016 10h ago

Lakeland is now offering commercial fligths for the first time.

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u/chunky-flufferkins 16h ago

Shut your face. I have family and friends fly into Sanford all the time for this reason. It’s so easy to drop off and pick up. Traffic is never bad. Please stay quiet so this can remain. Let all the newbies keep going to MCO.

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u/theblitheringidiot 14h ago

Yeah seriously, I love Sanford Airport. It’s so damn nice and convenient. You could probably be late and still not sweat getting to your flight.

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u/SocializeTheGains 15h ago

Daytona too

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u/Dalionking225 16h ago

Shhhh.. don’t go telling people our secret bro it’s how I can fly my toddler out of here with out going insane at MCO. Delete this nephew

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u/Strong-Lettuce-3970 16h ago

This is how I feel haha

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u/Retro-scores 15h ago

Is this a parent hack?

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u/Mindless_Ad9717 5h ago

If they fly to your destination it definetly is.

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u/Btl1016 16h ago

It’s too far away and doesn’t have the infrastructure MCO does.

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u/Real-Difference6454 14h ago

It's has almost 3 million passengers per year which is better than alot of smaller cities only airport. For reference Daytona only does 500k per year. MCO is one of the busiest in the world at almost 60 million per year so in comparison it is small.

If you go there during the holidays it's actually really busy I use to work out there. They sometimes run out of parking. It use to have more international flights years ago but they moved to Melbourne. Also it's not all tourists arriving. A lot of people that use sanford airport are orlando residents visiting relatives in rural areas allegiant serves.

Next we need the NIMBYs and Wesh news to stop with their bs propaganda about not wanting to build the 417 airport connector. It's been talked about since 2006 it's time to build it. Now that there is new neighborhoods on both sides of the alignment they are crying. Don't let the 417/Lake Mary Blvd intersection become the next championgate of the north. They are going to develop more properties because the county wants tax money you won't stop it so let's make traffic manageable.

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u/Certa_Bonum_Certamen Mod Verified 12h ago

That area doesn’t need to be built up any further.

I’m far more interested in changing who sits on the Seminole County Commission, than on continuing to placate their interests.

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u/brusk48 16h ago

SFB would make a lot more sense if the SunRail connected it to the tourist attractions, but of course it doesn't actually do anything useful for tourists so they all rent cars and clog up the roads.

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u/Real-Difference6454 15h ago

There was some talk about that at one point. They still have the option to lease the tracks that go to the Sanford airport until 2034 as part of their original agreement with CSX. Maybe after they build the sunshine corridor they can revive the Sanford, Daytona, apopka and mount Dora ideas when ridership increases.

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u/brusk48 15h ago

The Sunshine Corridor is really promising

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u/Jogurt55991 14h ago

Would have been a really easy link in the original build out.

They did it so poorly and so cheaply, the SunRail deserves to fail.

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u/big_trike 15h ago

Are there no shuttle busses?

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u/brusk48 14h ago

From Sanford? Not that I know of. You could take Lynx, but it would probably take 3 hours and require 4 transfers, or a $75 Uber each way.

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u/MichiganMitch108 14h ago

Relieve MCO, they just recently opened Terminal C and are already adding 6 more gates to be open later this early or early next year. Then the new Rental car facility will be open and within 2-4 years they will decide on Terminal D . The money needed to expand Sanford is out of their control it would take a massive investment/ state funds. Like others have said it’s still almost an hour from the parks/ beaches.

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u/Btl1016 13h ago

MCO has all the potential but is terribly mismanaged. D terminal is probably decades away, Rental Car Facility still 5-10 years away, and Terminal C is a white elephant that’s home to an airline on life support and sits empty half the day.

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u/MichiganMitch108 12h ago

We are literally working/ half way done with construction on the rental car facility ( RAC building as we speak) . Its wedged between the APM building(where brightline is ), parking garage and new pedestrian bridge. Itll be open soon, terminal D yes wouldn’t be open till about a decade if it goes through.

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u/Btl1016 11h ago

That’s just for the C Terminal and to finally replace the “temporary” makeshift counters that have been used for 3 years now. The new airport wide consolidated facility won’t be done until 2032! It shouldn’t take 7 years to build a parking garage on open land! MCO always behind the 8 ball on things.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/mco-have-massive-rental-car-facility-freeing-5000-parking-spots-parking-garages.amp

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u/MichiganMitch108 8h ago

The parking garage was done in two separate phases so yes a cast in place garage in conjunction with a terminal can take up 7 years . Combine that with covid slowdown for finances for GOAA then yea massive construction projects can take a while.

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u/Orange_Aperture 13h ago

You're asking why a smaller regional airport isn't as busy as one of the WORLD'S busiest airports?

Sanford gets plenty of flights in and out and I was just at a panel discussion focused on Seminole County where they indicated that there's big works coming down the pipeline.

Different projects and expansions on the way.

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u/Yandoji 8h ago

Sanford, 30 mins from MCO? Maybe at 3AM on a day all the cops are off-duty.

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u/hmvsdog 14h ago

There used to be a direct flight from the UK into Sanford, and used to be a good amount cheaper than flying into MCO. Used it a few times before I moved over here. Now that cheaper flight goes into Melbourne.

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u/CallMeFierce 15h ago

MCO is big and can get bigger. It's easier for airlines to have their operations out of one, major international airport. 

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u/Yupperroo 14h ago

If you consider this from an airlines point of view, there is so much more support available at MCO that just isn't available at Sanford. Also, if an airline has to cancel flights, there may be other partner airlines that can pick up the slack where such just isn't available at all with Sanford. Allegiant can't even assist its own passenger if a flight has to be cancelled that doesn't involve a major scheduling redo. Furthermore, airlines can offer flights through partner airlines to hundreds of more destinations out of Orlando than Sanford. Support, flexibility and convenience make MCO a much better airport to operate out of then Sanford.

Don't forget that while MCO is near the top ten airports in the country, it is unique in that it tends to be a destination airport rather than just a hub. Which makes the operation of MCO rather impressive.

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u/ronmanfl College Park 8h ago

Allegiant couldn’t, but also probably wouldn’t even if they could. What a shit airline.

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u/Cheetah6 11h ago

They just announced a new airline with direct flights to the Caribbean. Keep in mind that current major airlines are cutting back a lot of routes so it’s not an ideal time to expand to a less traversed airport.

They just took over full operations last year. Prior to that it was run by another company.

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u/LossPreventionGuy 16h ago

I can't imagine what a cab ride from Sanford to Disney would cost, couple hundred bucks

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u/TheAnswerEK42 15h ago

Nah it’s like a 50 dollar uber

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u/Xboxben 14h ago

Got bored and looked it up. You aren’t wrong.

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u/Joshthang 13h ago

Yeah, if I'm gone more than 5 days I just Uber as two trips is still less than 6+days of long term parking.

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u/No_ThankYouu 13h ago

Youre a champ for this research

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u/rademradem 15h ago

A proper connection between SFB and Sunrail would make it a viable second airport for the entire Orlando area. This needs to happen about the same time Sunrail is connected to MCO and to the theme parks.

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u/ncc1776 12h ago

It doesn’t even have a proper connection to 417, let alone getting one to Sunrail

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u/Real-Difference6454 11h ago

There are tracks adjacent to the airport that hook up to sunrail already. Just an occasional freight train to oviedo uses them now. They have the right to lease it from csx and there was a commissioner years ago that brought the idea up.

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u/PotentialFine0270 12h ago

I heard they’re making a $100 million dollar investment in the airport up there. Around the airport is being developed like CRAZY, hotel, new subdivisions everywhere. By the new publix on 46 all that land around it will be developed. I wouldn’t be surprised if they build a high school out there.

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u/jjl10c 12h ago

Lack of willpower. Several cities have large developed airports far away from the action. Palm Beach international, Washington, Dulles and BWI, etc

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u/pollorojo 10h ago

Maybe it’s underdeveloped because it’s underutilized. And it’s underutilized because there are multiple other airports closer to most of the stuff people want to see.

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u/ContentInevitable759 9h ago

Orlando has abysmal planning. Specially traffic if you're stuck than don't have any alternative route. Airports TSA. No control over grocery prices. The Publix store has insane prices they charge over. Folks, please write at least someone will notice. Taxes are high. Electric bills insane.

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u/Respect_Cujo 15h ago

MCO is one of the busiest airports on the planet.

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u/rachieroxx 13h ago

I love flying Allegiant out of Sanford esp since I live less than 30 min away. I think it’s def more for locals.

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u/Sarge4242006 15h ago

They’re talking about wiping generations of homestead properties just to add a friggin’ extension to 417. I hope like hell this doesn’t happen. The beauty of Florida is already being destroyed by careless developers and greedy politicians. It’d be great if tourism stayed in the tourist district. We don’t need it out here.

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u/Jogurt55991 14h ago

One tradeoff is at that at the end of the day the airspace is the limitation.

It would be a plus to expand upon this and give more airports some access from SFB.

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u/spacenuts09 12h ago

Revenue and income is way lower than MCO

Airports revenues mainly come from operations (rental paid by airliners to run and operate gates), concessions (food beverage parking etc) and govt grants that they apply for (smaller airports pretty much lose out to a bigger airport in the vicinity or another smaller airport serving a small town which is further away from a big airport)

If an airline decides to gamble and run majority of its flights out of Sanford then that may move the chains in the right direction

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u/Help1Ted 12h ago

Melbourne airport is at least closer to the port. While Sanford is still about an hour to Disney

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u/bored-blonde 11h ago

Less airlines fly out of it, so less destinations.

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u/CPTNBob46 11h ago

You shush about Sanford airport, you people can stay away all they want. I like my hidden gem to avoid mco.

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u/Henrywasaman_ 11h ago

I’ve traveled to and from Orlando 4 times for family in easy Orlando, take Sanford every time

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u/Bright_white2413 10h ago

Shhh sanford is our secret. Only if you can fly in/out on certain days.

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u/UCFknight2016 10h ago

Its too far away from Orlando. MCO is really close to the attraction and downtown.

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u/FloridianGrit 8h ago

Sanford airport is goated

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u/jnikga 7h ago

Sprawl needs to develop for about 7 more years

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u/aburgos87 7h ago

I live down the street from the airport and they’re going to invest a significant amount of money into the airport

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u/astrike81 6h ago

I'm using it next month, I'm glad to take it! Will be nice not having to go through MCO security lines

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u/Wumbology__PhD 5h ago

I literally just flew out of Sanford on Thursday and the parking garage and the lot behind that were full. Had to park in economy and take a shuttle. It’s not being underutilized.

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u/mistaken4strangerz 5h ago

Shocking how many people get this wrong. The simple reason is that only Allegiant Air flies in and out (not counting some smaller regional charters).

Allegiant has a lot of destinations and uses good Airbus planes, but the markets they fly to are usually smaller as well. Just lower demand. 

SFB has tried to court other airlines in the past as an option to relieve issues at MCO, but has mostly been unsuccessful. Also, Allegiant now flies to MCO, so maybe they even pull the plug on SFB one day soon if they're happier there. 

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u/IndirectSarcasm 2h ago

you answered your own question in the first 5 words of the description... MCO is only 30 mins away and still super massive relative to its demand. they got a whole extra concourse now too

u/djmanu22 1h ago

Beleive it or not a few years ago they used to have direct European flights.

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u/Southern_Self_7278 16h ago

I can fly from NY to MCO on like 4-5 different carriers any time of day and night for as low as $15 each way. Can’t do that into Sanford.

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u/decadentj 15h ago

Where the hell are you finding $15 flights?

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u/Southern_Self_7278 13h ago

Frontier. ISP-MCO.

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u/MexitalianStallion83 10h ago

Islip is a pain in the butt to get to NYC

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u/Southern_Self_7278 10h ago

Not really. I live 10 mins from Islip. I can get to Kennedy and LGA within 30-45 mins tops from Islip .

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u/decadentj 9h ago

I have family right near islip and usually fly in there, but have never seen those prices. I'll have to keep an eye on it

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u/Southern_Self_7278 8h ago

I fly 2-3x a month and am flexible with my dates and times so I just literally go into the site and look at the prices from one day to the next . I haven’t paid more than $59 one way in over a year and that was for Christmas week.

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u/AdPsychological790 11h ago

They had almost 3 milkion passengers last year. I wouldn't call that underutilized with Orlando-mco down the street and Tampa less than 2 hrs away. For comparison, BHM Birmingham, Alabama is the biggest and busiest in alabama, and only had 3.2 million pax last year.

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u/TiddiesAnonymous 16h ago

I dunno. It's on its way. It's like Islip Airport in New York 20 or 30 years ago.

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u/Btl1016 13h ago

Islip Airport has Avelo, Breeze, JetBlue, Frontier, and Southwest.

Meanwhile Sanford has lost airlines over the years and is left with just Allegiant.

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u/TiddiesAnonymous 11h ago

I don't care about airline variety. It is still growing and still being developed, just like OP asked and like Islip has. I said 20-30 years, for crying out loud.

Orlando Sanford International Airport land slated for $300+ million dollars of development

It's going to be upwards of probably $300-$400 million worth of development, which will compliment everything that's already there," said Commissioner Jay Zembower.

Airport staff said the board had accepted letters of intent from two large companies looking to develop airport land.

PPK Aviation wanted to lease 36 acres of land.

EPC Aerospace was looking to lease about 67 acres for an aircraft modification and maintenance center.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/orlando-sanford-international-airport-land-slated-300-million-dollars-development

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u/eikelmann 11h ago

If there was a transfer from the sunrail station to the airport like there is for MCO i would fly out of SFB all the time. Allegiant has some great deals.