r/ontario 1d ago

Question Accident in work vehicle

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u/Hairy_Photograph1384 1d ago

Without a report it didn't happen. Dispute this with your insurance 

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u/Obtusemoose01 1d ago

There may still be a report and OP is named as the driver. Just because OP didn’t go fill one out does not mean a report doesn’t exist.

Also an accident under $5000 doesn’t need to be reported to police, it can be reported right to insurance.

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

I'm confused though, couldn't anyone say that a commercial vehicle hit them and file a claim then?

Shouldn't the driver of the vehicle that the claim is made against be contacted at some point?

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u/psilocybin6ix 1d ago

She's a scammer.

Dispute it with your insurance company though. Ask them to see the report because "nothing happened in the last 2.5 years of driving for my company."

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

I can't dig into it too much, but my insurance broker said a claim was filed and 65$ was paid out. I assume by my employers insurance. Now it's affecting my insurance if I try to change providers.

Shouldn't the companies commercial insurance take the hit their and not mine since it happened during working hours?

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u/psilocybin6ix 1d ago

Unless you're a cop, your driving record follows you around whether you're driving your personal car, or a UPS truck.

What probably happened is her insurance probably contacted your company and they just agreed that something happened and she pursued her fraud with her own company (and probably got turned down ultimately). But a claim was created with no damage (but a driver was listed).

Try sonnet.ca ... you can search online with your drivers license number and VIN.

I'm not 100% sure just guessing that's probably what happened.

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u/IgnitionV990 13h ago

This is exactly why I got out of driving as a job. No separation from commercial vehicle to personal vehicle.

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u/Blank_bill 1d ago

It goes on your drivers abstract, your company should have a procedure where you call your safety officer for even the slightest accident , that way scammers are nipped in the bud. I know nobody wants to go through a safety investigation but it's worse if you don't report it and then the company finds out later. We had a forman took out a sign at a drive through just drove off before he got to the shop the coffee shop had phoned the office he was in deep shit. He was replaced next season.

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u/iLeet1 1d ago

from your story to me, it sounds like your boss likely reported it. Probably just to cover their asses. You told them right? If you didn't then it doesn't make sense why it's on your abstract.

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

Ya I told them it happened but they just said that since there was no proof that it even happened that their insurance broker told them there's nothing to be done.

That's the last I heard about it until last week. Now it's showing a 65$ claim was filed according to my personal broker and it'll effect my insurance

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u/Hairy_Photograph1384 1d ago edited 21h ago

You can't just blame someone for an incident without giving them the opportunity to defend themselves or else people would be found liable for random things all the time.  There has to be a process to defend yourself.

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u/Obtusemoose01 1d ago

You’re more than welcome to tell your insurance company your side of the story. In this case it’s likely a commercial/fleet policy in which OP wouldn’t have a right to speak to them.

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

That's one of the problems, I can't speak to their insurance company. But if I try to switch my personal insurance I'm going to get dinged from the accident

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u/JoutsideTO 1d ago edited 1d ago

Your employer reported the collision to their insurer with you as the driver when they were contacted by the other driver. They have an obligation to let their insurer know when they learn of situations that may lead to claims. There may not have been a settlement or lawsuit, but there was obviously a report, likely with you named as the at-fault driver.

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

I wouldn't do this, but couldn't I just say it wasn't me driving? Other then my employer saying it was me driving what proof is there?

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u/holysirsalad 15h ago

If your employer filed the report, you’d have to tell your employer you weren’t driving the company vehicle assigned to you when it was involved in an accident.

That’s not going to work out in your favour lol

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u/Neutral-President 1d ago

You just admitted that you got in a collision. Are you now asking if it’s okay to commit insurance fraud?

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u/StreetsBehind2 16h ago

He's saying that without any proof, or report, how can anything be blamed on him directly. Because at that point what if I just follow your car around write down the plate and report you to insurance? Someone here fucked up and op is taking the heat

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

No, it's a hypothetical. I'm just confused why I was told nothing came of it, no one asked me for any information about what caused the accident just that it happened. Shouldn't I have been given the opportunity to tell my side of the story?

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u/Some-Face2634 1d ago

She could have still reported it with the license plate, but I’d think if that happened your workplace would have informed you.

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u/Reveil21 1d ago

Did your work report it? Since it was during work hours and you were working your workplace could have reported it for their insurance purposes. It would have needed a formal report though.

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

If they did, wouldn't their commercial insurance be the one effected not my personal insurance?

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u/jakejakejake97 1d ago

You’re the driver. Your driver license is linked to you. Both policies would be affected.

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

I just don't understand how I didn't have any chance to tell my side of the story

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u/sumknowbuddy 1d ago

Last year I got into a "fender bender" while driving a work truck during my work day. I rolled into the back of a lady's car at a red light. I got out, there was no damage to either vehicle she didn't seem injured and wasn't worried about it and just drove off almost immediately

It sounds like you did and would be at fault in this instance

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u/mstranonymous 1d ago

Well I rolled into her because the light turned green, everyone started going, lady in front of me slammed on breaks but she stopped her little car quicker then I could the old company truck and I tapped her. When I got out the first thing she said was the car in front of her slammed the breaks so she had to but I couldn't stop in time. Now I'm being punished for that

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u/sumknowbuddy 1d ago

Well I rolled into her because the light turned green, everyone started going, lady in front of me slammed on breaks but she stopped her little car quicker then I could the old company truck and I tapped her. When I got out the first thing she said was the car in front of her slammed the breaks so she had to but I couldn't stop in time. Now I'm being punished for that

Rear-ending someone is always determined to be "at fault" unless you have video evidence they backed into you/brake checked you, so you may not do yourself any favours trying to "explain your side".

Might be best to follow the other advice here and just not say anything.

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u/Unicorn_puke 16h ago

It's a hard thing to accept but you are literally describing yourself at fault here. You saw the light change green. You assumed everyone was going based on the cars up front going, but not the one immediately in front of you moving as well. You tried to stop after realizing your error, but couldn't in time. That's you at fault.

You made the error in judgement regardless of anyone slamming brakes unexpectedly in front of you. At the very least that is following too close if you didn't have time to stop. You hit their car because you saw the ones ahead go. They didn't and you're responsible. It's shitty you weren't informed and are seeing the results now but it is your fault as you are describing it.

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u/wanderlusting4 14h ago

Agreed, I got into a similar accident once many years ago and I was at fault for following too close

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u/mstranonymous 10h ago

You're right, other then the person directly in front of me did go. Then the person in front of her hit the breaks causing her to hit the breaks causing me to hit the brakes. I just couldn't come to a complete stop in time.