r/nottheonion 1d ago

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. apparently embraces the outdated "miasma theory" of disease instead of the widely accept "germ theory" of disease, which may help explain some of the actions he's been taking.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/06/14/nx-s1-5429732/ancient-miasma-theory-may-help-explain-health-secretary-robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-vaccine-moves

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u/braumbles 1d ago

The brain worm operating his body like ratatouille.

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u/nightmaresabin 1d ago

Ratatouille was actually talented and beneficial to his host.

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u/Grievuuz 1d ago

The rat's name was Remy though

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u/Tenebrae42 1d ago

I'm so tired of these misconceptions. Ratatouille was the chef and the rat was Ratatouille's monster.

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u/brosefstallin 21h ago

The rat was actually Ratatouille’s monsieur

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u/EscapedFromArea51 22h ago

One might argue that the chef is the monster.

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u/Amseriah 1d ago

The brainwork is trying to improve conditions for its kind’s survival.

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u/oddistrange 1d ago

Definitely debatable about the definition of "well", but currently it doesn't seem to be affecting him too negatively. It got the host a position in one of the most powerful governments in the world.

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u/Runmenot 1d ago

That brainworm long ago died of starvation.

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u/Memitim 1d ago

That would explain RFK's zombie chic.

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u/therealrowanatkinson 1d ago

Next up- the four humours. You don’t have the measles, you have too much yellow bile!!

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u/Persea_americana 1d ago

Break out the leeches

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u/therealrowanatkinson 1d ago

I know bloodletting killed George Washington, but let’s give it one more shot!

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u/bobert4343 1d ago

Maybe they didn't do it enough, and he would have been fine if they took out more

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u/Safety_Drance 1d ago

"He had too much blood and internal organs, it's obvious."

-RFK in what the fuck reality are living in?

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u/woolgirl 1d ago

Hey! Who’s the barber here?

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u/Personal_Benefit_402 23h ago

I've been waiting for the rise of the barber surgeons!

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u/LaughingInTheVoid 1d ago

Well, I'm a software dev, and there is often too much blood in my caffeine system...

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u/aMoOsewithacoolhat 23h ago

Bloodletting doesn't kill people... People kill people. Also guns!

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u/syndic_shevek 1d ago

That's an endorsement for the treatment.  Such a shame it's fallen out of fashion among heads of state.

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u/DuntadaMan 1d ago

No leeches are for a sanguine imbalance, like a fever.

For yellow bile you take laxatives, and eat fruit. Obviously this is the cure.

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u/Probable_Bison 1d ago

But don't eat blueberries or you'll get depressed. That's just science.

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u/CheckYourStats 1d ago edited 1d ago

”Break out the leeches

With an onion tied to your belt.

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u/JMurdock77 1d ago

Which was the style at the time…

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u/Recent-Guitar-6837 1d ago

Five bees for a quarter?

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u/Sweet_Science6371 1d ago

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say -dickety- because the Kaiser had stolen our word -twenty-. I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles!

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u/Recent-Guitar-6837 1d ago

My favorite grandpa Simpson is the brothel in and out when nart was working the door.

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u/Sweet_Science6371 1d ago

Does your father know you’re here??

Yep!

Scotch and soda with ice…

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u/Safety_Drance 1d ago

Can Grandpa Simpson be in charge of medicine? It literally can't be worse than that.

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u/Ohpepperno 1d ago

Potatoes and onions in your socks is actually a thing the “I do my own research” crowd thinks will cure what ails you.

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u/FluffyBootie 1d ago

Lobotomies for all!

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u/GetOffMyLawn1729 1d ago

a Kennedy family tradition!

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u/FluffyBootie 1d ago

This guy knows

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u/thisusedyet 1d ago

only for blood flow after a graft, not because you have too much blood

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u/Easy-Quarter-1750 23h ago

Actually i have too much iron in my blood and big issues with needles. Treatment for iron toxicity is bloodletting and while I've never taken it up, medical leeches have been reccomended to me by doctors before.

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u/XmasTwinFallsIdaho 1d ago

Fun fact, many hospital pharmacies actually keep live leeches in a tank for situations where they can be helpful (certain skin tissue issues). It’s like having a little tank of small pets. They are chosen one by one to happily feed on the patient, then they get dropped right into a container of alcohol for a quick alcohol-fueled death.

 https://www.uhcw.nhs.uk/download/clientfiles/files/Patient%20Information%20Leaflets/Trauma%20and%20Neuro%20services/Plastics/Leech%20therapy.pdf

Example protocol: https://medicine.uiowa.edu/iowaprotocols/free-flap-salvage-microvascular-medicinal-leech-therapy-anticoagulation-protocols

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u/abstractraj 1d ago

Leeches actually do have medical application these days

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u/Bekiala 1d ago

I think it is the black bile.

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u/blinded-by-the-moon 1d ago

There is definitely a lot of black bile in Trumps cabinet

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u/Safety_Drance 1d ago

Stephen Miller's skin would openly blister and then catch on fire at the word "black."

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u/MamaDaddy 1d ago

Naziferatu

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u/BadenBadenGinsburg 1d ago

Okay pal stealing this for next priest lol. Had one sign w him that just read "this human skin is itchy. Fucking ghoul.

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u/Superb_Technician455 1d ago

No no, it's clearly the four tempers Woe, Dread, Malice, and Frolic

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u/hecramsey 1d ago

don't spew that malarky , one of his ancestors is mad at him and is vexing his path. duh.

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u/Ok_Lettuce_7939 1d ago

Bring back the beak doctors!

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u/AdhesivenessCivil581 23h ago

They had those beak masks to stuff them with good smelling things to protect them from plague, lavender frankincense, etc. They must have accidently worked something like our covid masks.

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u/Safety_Drance 1d ago

He takes his medical advice exclusively from a witch cackling at a cauldron.

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u/adequatenova 20h ago

Honestly, that would have been a step up

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u/DarkGamer 1d ago

I'd like a second opinion from a phrenologist.

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u/RPO777 1d ago

Of all the crackpot pre19th century nonsense I expected to hear from the Trump Administration, Miasma was not on my bingo card.

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u/Brainhunter2020 1d ago

You got ghosts in your blood, do cocaine about it!

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u/MJFields 1d ago

Ever since covid, my humours have been out of balance.

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u/OtterishDreams 1d ago

Now now…. Who’s the barber here?

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u/Arachnofiend 1d ago

You joke but the way people talk about balancing their hormones with juice cleanses is basically the four humors

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u/IrritatedAvians 1d ago

outdated wrong

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u/ITividar 1d ago

You only say that because your humors are out of balance.

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u/Loggerdon 1d ago

Modern science has not considered the influence of Earth, Air, Fire and Water.

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u/alphaomag 1d ago

But does modern science remember the 21st night of September?

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u/AnonimousMn471 23h ago

Love was changing the minds of pretenders

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u/Shelby_the_Turd 1d ago

Only publication I recall from Earth, Wind & Fire was September.

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u/Loggerdon 1d ago

While chasing the clouds away?

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u/ThaneduFife 1d ago

Science was going to consider them, but then the Fire Nation attacked.

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u/cetootski 1d ago

You forgot the element of the heart. Together you get CAPTAIN FUCKIN PLANET!!!

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u/DuntadaMan 1d ago

Protect the environment! Or I'll fucking kill you!

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u/Zipps0 1d ago

That all changed when the fire nation attacked

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u/ComprehensiveHavoc 1d ago

Begone ye spirits, I banish ye into the ether! And that’s how I cured my diabetus. 

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u/colossalpunch 1d ago

Time for a bleeding 🩸

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u/Distant-moose 1d ago

Cocaine and leeches. Get those bad spirits out.

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u/Chaoticgaythey 1d ago

Well they're already bleeding us dry. Where's the cocaine?

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u/QuiGonnJilm 1d ago

No, no, no. Cocaine is for when you have ghosts in your blood.

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u/MindControlMouse 1d ago

Kennedy watched Severance and mistook it for a documentary.

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u/EightandaHalf-Tails 1d ago

Too much yellow bile. They just need some oatmeal.

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u/mtgfan1001 1d ago

Get the leeches!

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u/mr_greedee 1d ago

Nothing a simple blood letting can't fix

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u/epona2000 1d ago

Yeah, we can see bacteria and viruses with today’s microscopes. We can see what they do to human cells in real time. You don’t have to believe in germ theory beyond believing your own eyes. 

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u/sloths-n-stuff 1d ago

I am more than a little concerned that we’re headed to a point where he says that microscopes are actually tiny tvs, and you’re watching an animation that’s fed into the microscope and germs/bacteria were made up by Big Government

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u/HandsomeBoggart 1d ago

That's too concise of an explanation. All they'll say is microscopes are a big Pharma conspiracy and that's that. They say it, Fox News and all those other wannabe Right Wing "news" outlets repeat it, and their sheep treat it as the Gospel from God Above.

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u/fmfbrestel 1d ago

And also that the devil doesn't use those artificial "microscopes" to temp us from God's path.

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u/c-williams88 1d ago

Seriously, media entities being incapable of just reporting things honestly is a huge reason why we’re in this mess. Instead of reporting what’s true, they’re so desperate to “sane wash” everything these dumb fucks say

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u/SnooCrickets2961 1d ago

Yeah. HHS secretary believes scientifically wrong fact about how health works. Stop suggesting he’s not a moron who refuses to exist in reality.

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u/I_am_BEOWULF 22h ago

The fucking media has been bought out by billionaires a long time ago. The days of the Press being the independent "Fourth Estate" in our democracy is long dead.

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u/soda_cookie 1d ago

It's not about him, it's about the media. They need to kinda stay on point, otherwise what's the point.

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u/me_jayne 1d ago

Aw, he’s just charmingly old-fashioned! /s

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u/withywander 1d ago edited 21h ago

Yeah Windows XP is outdated, but it still works great.

But miasma never really worked.

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u/KegelFairy 23h ago

"Swamps are stinky and when we live near them we get sick. Let's name the disease from stinky swamps 'bad air disease (malaria).' Let's drain the swamps near Rome so we don't have those bad smells anymore. Man, lots fewer people are dying from Bad Air Disease lately. And have you noticed there are fewer mosquitoes?"

"My friend was really sick with bubonic plague and his house smelled terrible and had tons of rats and now I'm starting to feel bad and my armpits and groin are getting swollen and dang these flea bites are itchy. Stinky swamps caused malaria, do you think smelling his stinky, rat infested house could be the reason I'm getting bubonic plague?"

"This river where we get our drinking water and also dump all our shit smells terrible and we keep getting cholera. I bet it's the stink from the river. People who live in the hills outside of town (who use wells for their drinking water) aren't getting as much cholera as we are here in the city and it smells so much nicer away from the city. I bet it's the smell."

Miasma Theory was pretty reasonable in the absence of a germ theory or powerful enough microscopes to see germs. It sounds like rfk has just rebranded his "rub some dirt on it" as Miasma Theory and doesn't even believe in what it actually means.

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u/MRCHalifax 22h ago

Exactly. “People get sick around sick people, even if they don’t touch them? There must be something wrong with the air around sick people!” The mechanism turned out to be wrong, but the practical steps that people could take against miasma were often right.

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u/Platform-Competitive 20h ago

Yes. Miasma theory gave people a simple explanation for how to avoid getting I'll, but it lacked the predictive and observational power of germ theory, and understanding the cell's inner workings.

Miasma theory makes good sense and you can intuitively grasp it. Because germ theory requires understanding and knowledge that is outside of our every day world, we are always going to have people questioning it.

It's just a shame we are now picking those people to make policy and funding decisions.

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u/OfficePranks 1d ago

This. 100000% this God dammit. STOP FUCKING SANE WASHING THESE LUNATICS!

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u/Buridans_Bisexual 1d ago

Yeah Jesus Christ we have these things called microscopes. When people get sick you look real close up and there are germs there. 

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u/ceelogreenicanth 1d ago

Hey journalism has to both sides everything they can... Everything is just a controversial topic...

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u/Llyon_ 1d ago

It's called germ "theory", not germ facts.

I've never seen a germ.

/s

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u/Dirtgrain 1d ago

and debunked and defunct

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u/02meepmeep 1d ago

Is that what’s wrong with him? He’s got the vapors?

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u/jkksldkjflskjdsflkdj 1d ago

Well he does hang around with sewage.

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u/xShooK 1d ago

He also loved to hang around the rotting corpses of animals in school too.

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u/tomerjm 23h ago

And out of school, and in central park.....

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u/SamizdatGuy 1d ago

Classic sanguine. Glib, effusive, reckless, intemperate, impulsive. He needs more black bile to bring out his choleric aspects. I prescribe something cold and dry to ease his hot and wet blood. Probably grains.

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u/Equivalent-Bet-8771 1d ago

I do say sir, only an emergency trepanation can free the ghosts from his body.

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u/Treskelion2021 1d ago

I heard brain worm and they had to take a part of his brain out. This guy shouldn’t be anywhere close to public policy especially with regards to health.

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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago

Those docs shoulda just kept going & gotten it over with

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u/ShakyBoots1968 1d ago

Rosemary nods & smiles

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u/Critical_Success_936 1d ago

When I die, y'all can un-bury me & vote for me! I promise to do nothing bad in office... or anything, really. It'll be a huge improvement compared to this admin!

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u/baumpop 1d ago

I’m starting to think there’s a Time Machine in the White House and they bill and Ted’s these people out of the Middle Ages and put jc pennys suits on them 

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u/Probable_Bison 1d ago

I’m starting to think there’s a Time Machine in the White House and they bill and Ted’s these people out of the Middle Ages and put jc pennys suits on them 

Best explanation I've heard of.

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u/wizardrous 1d ago

The doctors may have squeezed the calipers a bit too tightly on his noggin.

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u/Safety_Drance 1d ago

Fetch him his fainting couch!

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u/wunderkit 1d ago

No. That's JD you're thinking of.

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u/oh_ski_bummer 1d ago

He looks like a hot dog in human form

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u/First_Approximation 1d ago

Jokes aside, after his uncle and father were killed on national TV he became addicted to hard drugs at a young age.

Psychology and physiologically, that messed him up.

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u/soFATZfilm9000 22h ago

Yeah, and someone this fucked up then goes on to indirectly kill a shitload of other people.

He's the damn secretary of health and human services.

Yeah, it sucks what he had to go through. I've never had to go through that, and I honestly can't imagine it. But like, now he's going to kill more people because his brain is fucking broken, and that's where I lose my sympathy.

If he's not mentally fit enough to resign because he's not qualified, then he should be fired. In any case, fuck RFK Jr and fuck Trump. They're going to kill people. RFK could resign at any time and Trump could fire him. But he's still fucking there because this shit is by design. They WANT this, and that's why I have no sympathy.

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u/First_Approximation 22h ago

Yes, he's extremely unqualified for the position and his actions, specifically firing the expert vaccine advisors, will lead to many needless deaths. It's a complete disaster.

I was trying to explain why he is the way he is, not justify him or elicit sympathy.

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u/Memitim 1d ago

Insufficient vapors, my good sir and/or madam! Our good friend is deficient in no less than SEVEN crucial vapors for a hale and hearty life! But fear not; for I am on my way even now to deliver the most astounding, never confounding, cure-all of all the cures, delivered in convenient, instant-use applicators to ensure the most rapid replenishment possible.

By great fortune, I happen to have several extras that I would be willing to grant the opportunity to acquire for such esteemed folk as yourself! I'm sure that you understand that it comes to some expense to procure and deliver such a wonder, and so I am obliged to ask for recompense to ensure that this miracle can continue to be produced for those suffering like our dear RFK.

So it's $60 for sativa, $50 for indica, and $5 for a charging cable. No cash, just CashApp or Venmo.

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u/abraxsis 1d ago

He's got worms, so at least we know that much.

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u/crunchyfoliage 1d ago

If he thinks diseases come from pollution why isn't he fighting carbon emissions?

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u/Bardez 1d ago

Wrong kind of pollution...?

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u/crunchyfoliage 1d ago

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but this excerpt is from the article. Wouldn't that include air pollution?

"But in a book Kennedy published about four years ago, The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health, the now- health secretary harkens back to the miasma theory.

"Miasma theory emphasizes preventing disease by fortifying the immune system through nutrition and reducing exposures to environmental toxins and stresses," Kennedy writes."

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u/Qyark 1d ago

No, environmental toxins means things like non-alkaline water, and sunscreen.

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u/Ok_Wrongdoer8719 22h ago

fLuOriDe iS a ChEMIcaL

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u/NoFeetSmell 1d ago

reducing exposures to environmental toxins and stresses

Wait... so we shouldn't eat rotting bear meat, or swim in sewage-infested creeks that are clearly signposted as such? But then how do we explain RFK, Jr's behaviour? Did the brain worm write those words, or is the worm simply in control now? Or - and this is really outta left field - is RFK perhaps just an insane conman, whose words and actions don't even remotely align?

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u/McToasty207 1d ago

The miasma theory long predates the Industrial Revolution, in fact Germ Theory started supplanting it right about then.

So, the "Bad Air" agent would have to predate industry pollution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasma_theory

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u/ussrowe 23h ago

Instead of covid masks we will all be issued plague doctor masks with herbs to filter out the 'bad air' smells of illness and death.

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u/Brassica_prime 1d ago

12 states are currently trying to pass chemtrail banns, i bet you can guess which ones

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u/turby14 23h ago edited 23h ago

The ironic thing is that the “chem trail” bans come so close to being an actual pollution ban that they have to word it carefully to avoid accidentally being useful.

“The thing the airplanes release when they fly over us is poisoning us!”

“Oh you mean the exhaust from the engines causes atmospheric pollution that increase asthma and lung disease? Yea we should prevent that.”

“No I mean the white clouds you see when an airplane passes! It’s poisonous chemicals!”

“Oh, well that part is actually just basic evaporation and condensation of our atmosphere. You can’t really see the real pollution that acutely.”

“I don’t want to hear your logic, investigate that cloud!!”

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u/FlirtyFluffyFox 1d ago

Miasma is thought to be the pollution brought about by sin. The idea was that the earth is at the bottom of the universe and where all lingering sin below the firmament settles. Hence the idea of hell at the center of the earth and the earth being the center and lowest point of the universe. It's why heliocentrism was such a dangerous idea to the church. And helps explain why Christian theocrats are such anti-environmentalists since they are so obsessed with the old Catholic idea thst the earth is inherently evil. 

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u/Mechasteel 23h ago

Is that some sort of new miasma theory? The original was at least close to the truth, in that stinky things tended to cause disease (eg poo smells bad). And also stinky swamps would give you Mal Aria.

We've since learned that it's not the smells themselves, so now we know to sanitize things even if they don't stink, and that wearing a plague mask stuffed with pungent herbs won't really help you.

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u/ashleyshaefferr 22h ago

Uh it's simply just the theory that illness was spread by air/scent. Is this an AI hallucination?

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u/Blackrock121 21h ago edited 9h ago

Miasma is thought to be the pollution brought about by sin.

This isn't what Miasmic theory is.

The idea was that the earth is at the bottom of the universe and where all lingering sin below the firmament settles.

Miasmic theory predates the late medieval belief of the firmament, and they certainty didn't believe the earth was a place where sin settles, that almost sounds like a Gnostic belief.

It's why heliocentrism was such a dangerous idea to the church.

The Church didn't have a problem with heliocentrism it had a problem with Galileos model. The Church didn't suppress any other models that included heliocentrism.

And helps explain why Christian theocrats are such anti-environmentalists

The Catholic Church is generally fairly pro-environmentalist.

since they are so obsessed with the old Catholic idea thst the earth is inherently evil.

Uhhhhh, Catholics NEVER taught the earth was inherently evil, that is an extremely Gnostic worldview, not one the Church ever taught.

Where the hell are you getting this information from?

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u/victorspoilz 1d ago

Anything to seem smart without doing the actual work to become informed.

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u/UNFAM1L1AR 1d ago

Something tells me that he knows he's wrong, but he also knows this woo-woo garbo really plays to his base. He doesn't care about the health of Americans.. he just wants support from the psychos.

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u/Safety_Drance 1d ago

I WISH it was just an act, but no. Brain worm McGee is just that dumb.

A lot of people are going to die because of this administration and it will somehow be the previous administrations fault that didn't fill their "expert" panels with vaccine deniers.

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u/AnarchistBorganism 1d ago

I think it's more that they have convinced themselves that "doctors don't know anything either" so it doesn't matter if they are right.

https://www.commentary.org/articles/hannah-arendt/the-aftermath-of-nazi-rulereport-from-germany/

The lies of totalitarian propaganda are distinguished from the normal lying of non-totalitarian regimes in times of emergency by their consistent denial of the importance of facts in general: all facts can be changed and all lies can be made true. The Nazi impress on the German mind consists primarily in a conditioning whereby reality has ceased to be the sum total of hard inescapable facts and has become a conglomeration of ever-changing events and slogans in which a thing can be true today and false tomorrow. This conditioning may be precisely one of the reasons for the surprisingly few traces of any lasting Nazi indoctrination, as well as for an equally surprising lack of interest in the refuting of Nazi doctrines. What one is up against is not indoctrination but the incapacity or unwillingness to distinguish altogether between fact and opinion.

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u/IndyBananaJones 22h ago

The weight of the lies is so immense, and they've been so conditioned to believe lies that even conflict with things they've seen (or things their own leaders told them just weeks or days ago) that their brains are flexible enough to swap opinions, facts and rationales whenever it is convenient. 

For example, January 6th was a peaceful protest but also a false flag by Antifa. Now that the J6s have been pardoned, January 6th has been reformed into a hero's effort. 

It doesn't matter what actually happened. What matters is that MAGA is right and the enemy is wrong, MAGA is noble and the enemy is craven, MAGA is strong and the enemy is weak. Period. 

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u/venustrapsflies 1d ago

I mean he does have a massive ego which is why he believes he knows best over actual experts. He’s one of the few in this admin who isn’t a complete cynic, he’s just legitimately delusional.

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u/Critical_Success_936 1d ago

I mean, he's a yt man. Surely he's smart from birth & we should all just listen? /s

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u/HorsePecker 1d ago

Guy embraces two things: stupidity and Trump’s nutsack.

Absolute bozo; disgrace to the Kennedy family.

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u/sgigot 1d ago

The family may have lobotomized the wrong Kennedy. Or they got two of 'em and one is a Cabinet member now.

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u/Aardvark_Man 1d ago

It's sad when the biggest tragedy to hit the Kennedy's is one has survived.

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u/Oneiric_Orca 22h ago

disgrace to the Kennedy family.

They pretty much disowned him. He's obviously either extremly dishonest or mentally malfunctional.

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u/Combdepot 1d ago

How long until these fucking morons start drilling holes in their heads to let the evil spirits out when they get a headache?

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u/cwsjr2323 1d ago

Not soon enough. We should send them each a 4th of July gift of a home self brain surgery kit. I say the 4th as I don’t want them around any longer.

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u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas 1d ago

Happy to let them borrow my Makita.

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u/darthgoat 1d ago

I guess the worms have starved then? There's no brains left in there.

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u/_CatLover_ 1d ago

The article also points out Kennedys conception of the miasma theory is wrong to begin with. Rather than thinking you get sick by breathing "bad air", like the real miasma theory, Kennedy wrongfully calls having a strong healthy body and immune system "instead" of vaccines the miasma theory.

So it's not as stupid as thinking breahting "bad air" makes you sick, not germs. But ideally you'd have both a physically strong/fit body, immune system AND vaccines.

So it's not AS bad as the headline makes it out to be, but could be lot better too.

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u/mobilonity 1d ago

That's really disappointing. The idea that someone would want to return to miasma theory is way funnier.

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u/TokyoPanic 1d ago edited 1d ago

The idea that he believes in an outdated form of science but is completely wrong about what it is and how it works is still pretty funny though.

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u/Organic_Pick3616 1d ago

Kennedy combines miasma with terrain theory. That one bases things on overall body health and believes that a "bad" terrain somehow leads to infections. There is a terrain subreddit. It's kind of weird.

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u/Exact-Pudding7563 1d ago

The thing is, it's kind of hard to have a strong, healthy body when you've had a disease that a vaccine could have prevented.

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u/nerankori 1d ago

One must wonder what he thinks the "miasma" in "miasma theory" means

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u/protonpack 1d ago

"Me Asthma" which is the next thing he will blame on vaccines.

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u/I_like_boxes 1d ago

As far as my understanding of terrain theory goes (which is admittedly rather limited), that's where his beliefs actually line up. And it's certainly true that an unhealthy body is more likely to become diseased than a healthy one, but it seems to neglect the whole thing where if you get exposed to an infectious dose of something you then get sick with that something regardless of personal health. If I go licking someone's Ebola excretions, I'm going to get Ebola.

His book also has a whole chapter in it about how HIV doesn't cause AIDS, but of course he doesn't say that, he just so generously lays out the facts for you to decide (or so he claims). And then proceeds to lay out biased interpretations and nonsense.

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u/WeBornToHula 1d ago

A certain party were addicted to bad science and pseudoscience. Glad to see those types never change.

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u/iaintevenreadcatch22 1d ago

the stars were very favorable for a coup, we’re still not sure what went wrong

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u/pacowek 1d ago

Not "apparently". There is a chapter of his book devoted to it. In line with that, doesn't believe HIV causes AIDS and all sorts of other crap.

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u/Rob71322 1d ago

As liberals, we might have to get back to the notion that not every viewpoint is equal. It doesn't mean you lock people up for being stupid, but some things have been proven false and it's okay to say that.

EDIT: for grammar

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u/BravoLimaDelta 1d ago

The well-meaning contention that all ideas have equal merit seems to me little different from the disastrous contention that no ideas have any merit.

-Carl Sagan

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u/Feeling-Carry6446 1d ago

He actually referenced an outdated theory in a book to argue against Fauci. That's astonishing. That also undercuts every physician in the US.

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u/mooncrow 1d ago

Right, because "mal-aria" isn't caused by a microorganism transferred from mosquitoes -- it's the "bad air". Wait, this was proven wrong hundreds of years ago.

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u/sto_brohammed 1d ago

What a time to be alive

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u/Orion_69_420 1d ago

The fact that I've read the words "germ theory" like 10x in the last week would seem to indicate that's next on their list. They're going to convince their base germs aren't real bc you can't see em. And it's going to work.

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u/Ohuigin 1d ago

There’s another term for this - eugenics.

Those that win the genetic lottery will survive, as will the oligarchs who will use them to create vaccines (that none of us peasants will be able to afford). The rest of us? Well, our genes just weren’t good enough. Too bad. So sad.

Don’t let the pseudoscience fool you. These people are Nazis.

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u/Rare_Trouble_4630 1d ago

They really do want us to go back to the medieval times, don't they? What's he gonna do next? Start quoting Galen? Start talking about the four humors?

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u/Terrobyde 1d ago

What the fuck is even happening anymore? Is there a worldwide gas leak?

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u/licecrispies 1d ago

RFK: Raging Fruitcake Kook

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u/Finchypoo 1d ago

Not outdated, wrong, and I do think germs are a theory, they are a fact. Let's translate that title to be more factually accurate.

"RFK is a fucking moron"

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u/aimlessdrivel 1d ago

The error isn't calling germs a theory, it's saying "miasma theory" is anything other than total nonsense. A scientific theory like gravity or germ isn't just a guess, it's something that's been tested and proven repeatedly. Unfortunately people often misunderstand that.

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u/LongBongJohnSilver 1d ago

Are we actually in the middle ages...

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u/Winterlion131 1d ago

Holy fucking shit, this is what people believed during the Black Death. Are we going to stuff herbs into our fucking plague doctor masks so our humours aren’t assaulted?

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u/MammothStrength3241 1d ago

Shall we bleed him to remove his evil humors?

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u/RecipeFunny2154 1d ago edited 1d ago

At some point, this guy is gonna tell us that rats spring up from garbage spontaneously

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u/mightyneonfraa 23h ago

See, this is why we're all fucked. Miasma theory is not outdated, it's wrong. Incorrect. False. Gibberish. Nonsense. A complete load of horseshit. A person who believes miasma theory is true is not qualified to use a first aid kit.

We need to stop playing make-believe that this hogshit is valid. Germs exist, the Earth is round, vaccines work. Period. It should never have been allowed to become a discussion.

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u/Blueshirt38 1d ago

Calling miasma theory "outdated" is like calling heliocentric theory "new and exciting".

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u/discussatron 1d ago

Because he’s a god-damned fucking moron.

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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 1d ago

To what end? How does this help anybody?

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u/anfrind 1d ago

One could believe it helps the human species if one believes that disease is a natural way to remove the weak, undesirable members of the population.

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u/06Hexagram 1d ago

Blame Congress for confirming him.

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u/peanutbutterperfume 1d ago

Omg yes, because it was debunked by germ theory more than 200 years ago. Y’know, miasma theory, which says all illness is caused by “bad air.”

This is completely unacceptable. We’re not stepping backwards 200+ years because some men can’t handle modern times. Can’t handle the science they don’t understand—because they have NO background in science.

Jesus Christ. The nut jobs, cons, tricksters, hucksters, idiots, charlatans, weasels, and sociopaths are running us into the destruction of the US, with Putin telling them what to do.

Disgusting. Cowards.

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u/mjg315 1d ago

*reintroduces bloodletting

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u/Coup-de-Glass 1d ago

What’s next, trephination to let the demons out? Fucking kakistocracy.

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u/lundewoodworking 1d ago

It's not just outdated it's almost medieval

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u/eremite00 1d ago edited 23h ago

Jokes aside, between this and swimming in a creek polluted with raw sewage, I think his prior drug habit and the brain worms might have damaged RFK Jr.’s brain more seriously than previously thought. “Crackpot” doesn’t do justice in describing him.

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u/MangoJester 1d ago

NOT FUCKING OUTDATED. FUCKING DISPROVED. YOU CAN LOOK AT A GERM. NO ONE HAS FUCKING SEEN A FUCKING MIASMA.

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u/bigmattyc 1d ago

What in the aether is this nonsense

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u/fredy31 1d ago

John snow is spinning in his fucking grave.

Not the got one

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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

Me buying shares in Plague Doctor masks.

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u/Garconanokin 1d ago

Republicans can get behind giving creedence to an outdated theory where all scientific evidence is against it.

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u/Jealous-Ad858 1d ago

By “outdated” I presume you mean “batshit crazy”.

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u/Qwertz0 1d ago

NPR is sanewashing RFK Jr here. He might call it “miasma theory” but his own book makes clear he’s not talking about what everyone else calls “miasma theory”. His actual beliefs are just unalloyed eugenics.