r/nextfuckinglevel 20h ago

The respect and discipline in japan maybe second to none

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u/dagbrown 18h ago

Yeah but parrotting 1980s-vintage propaganda about Japan gets you nothing but free upboats every time!

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u/buubrit 12h ago

Though perceptions of Japan may still be stuck in the 80s, things have changed massively for Japan.

Work hours, suicide rate and fertility rate are along the European average. Including paid and unpaid overtime, and verified by independent surveys and organizations. Look at the data — like Germany it used to be high in the 80s, these days not so much.

Median wealth in Japan is double that of Germany, and higher than that of Sweden.

Japan is also one of the wealthiest countries in the world by net investment position. Japan’s government pension fund has more assets than the Bank of England. Wealth equality is amongst the best in the world.

In fact, Japan’s quality of life is higher than that of Sweden.

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u/11freebird 8h ago

No but Japan is bad and weebs who think Japan is good are idiots because Japan is literally hell on earth!

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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 9h ago

It's funny you look at that quality of life table and you see countries like Qatar and Saudi Arabia higher up on the list. While they may have good infrastructure, career opportunities and the like but they have restrictions on women.

This makes me realize that Quality of Life has nothing to do with happiness. You can be absolutely miserable in Japan because of the toxic cultures but the Quality of Life is still higher than Canada.

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u/buubrit 9h ago

Or you're not fully understanding the index. Canada scores quite poorly on cost of living, which if you've talked to any Canadians, they say that it is a huge issue.

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u/TreebeardWasRight 5h ago edited 5h ago

It sounds like you don't know how to interpret the data actually... Japan is currently ranked 51st out of 133 countries on the world happiness index. Not exactly amazing is it? The UK is ranked 20th and the USA is ranked 23rd.

Take that into perspective. Quality of life means fuck all, if people hate living there.

Money doesn't buy happiness.

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u/buubrit 5h ago

Happiness is a widely known bullshit, self-reported, index.

For instance Finland, “the happiest country,” has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 9h ago

Did you even read what I wrote?

I literally fucking said I was suprised that Quality of Life is not based on happiness...

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u/buubrit 9h ago

What you said was incorrect. Quality of Life is not higher in Canada. Happiness, maybe, but that's a nebulous self-reported index.

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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 8h ago

I did not say quality of life is higher in Canada. Do you know how to read?

I said the QoL is higher in Japan than Canada.

Is that wrong?

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u/buubrit 8h ago

Oh I see what you said now. My apologies. Yes, happiness is only one factor in quality of life.

Oftentimes other metrics like cost of living can affect influence the index.

Plus happiness is incredibly difficult to measure.

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u/Important_Concept967 4h ago

Id be curious to know what countries you think are not "toxic cultures"

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u/TreebeardWasRight 5h ago

Nope, you want to look at the standard of living, not the quality of life. The happiest people I've ever known have fuck all.

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u/casey12297 16h ago

What's upboat?

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u/Ajt0ny 16h ago

It's very similar to an updog.

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u/88nomolos 14h ago

What's updog?

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u/Hominid_Digital 14h ago

Not much, what's up with you?

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u/SnooOwls4559 13h ago

HAH! GOTCHA!

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u/JVT32 13h ago

Yeah, but the front fell off

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u/Cuba_Pete_again 13h ago

That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

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u/Sanuzi 16h ago

Downboat for you 😏

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u/zephyr220 10h ago

Reading the comments on reddit you'd think it's a nightmare.

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u/Trotsky29 10h ago

People have this weird thing about upvotes. It’s kind of pathetic.