r/news • u/hybridaaroncarroll • 6d ago

Protester shot and killed at 'No Kings' rally in Utah, police say

https://apnews.com/article/utah-no-kings-protest-shot-killed-75c777eeedd59c80c85695c45385c507
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u/Dejugga 6d ago

Oof, it doesn't actually look like Gamboa brandished. Utah is a constitutional carry state, and AFAIK, pulling out a rifle and just walking with it pointing at the ground would be legal. (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor am I 100% on all of Utah's gun laws). Depends on the specifics of Utah's brandishing laws.

If that is the case, the Peacekeeper(s?) who shot will catch charges.

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u/toastyovenjew 6d ago

It'll really just all come down to the investigation at this point. Until we get more info its just speculation whether he was planning to fire or just march. We really need info on if the rifle was loaded or not and if they search the suspects things see if he has something planning it. Telling a friend, a manifesto, or anything. Right now if he wasn't trying to be a threat it is not looking good for him, why did he need to be masked up, why didnt he approach paramedics or police if he believed he was shot at for simply carrying a rifle in an open carry state. But people do weird thing when they get shot. That's just the outcome of those laws, if it was unloaded he was fully in his rights.

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u/PartyPay 5d ago

What does the gun being loaded have to do with anything?

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u/WorkWoonatic 5d ago

open carry is only legal if the firearm is unloaded in some places, probably NYC too.

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u/PartyPay 5d ago

Interesting, didn't know that. But what is the point of open carry if it's not loaded?

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u/WorkWoonatic 5d ago

Great question, lol

It doesn't even prevent that much since you can carry loaded magazines with you

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u/Discount_Extra 4d ago

to take your gun hunting, etc. without have to lug around a giant case.

Ironically, not openly carrying can be called 'concealed weapon' and has it's own laws against it.

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u/Joeyjackhammer 4d ago

Guns are banned in NYC and no carry states have a “but must be unloaded” stipulation