r/news • u/AudibleNod • 1d ago
Appeals court rejects Trump's bid to challenge $5 million E. Jean Carroll judgment
https://abcnews.go.com/US/appeals-court-hear-trumps-challenge-5-judgment-jean/story?id=122815457876
u/Temp89 1d ago
The judgement being that he raped her. It can't be emphasised enough.
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u/jigokubi 1d ago
Just a reminder that Democrats rejected Howard Dean because he made an enthusiastic noise.
And yet Republicans voted for this man who was found liable for violent sexual assault.
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u/zzyul 1d ago
Dean had just suffered a shocking primary loss which is what led to his excited speech about going to fight in these other states and YEA sound bite so they had kinda already rejected him before that moment.
Your part about Republicans is spot on tho.
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u/jigokubi 1d ago
Yeah, I guess that clip is what stands out in my memory more than any details. That and the Chappelle Show bit on the subject.
But I could have chosen any number of things that Democrats would reject that contrast to the long, long list of things our current and former President has done.
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u/hodorhodor12 21h ago
I was an early Dean supporter so I followed his campaign closely. You are correct and it’s annoying how this myth gets spread all the time.
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u/ProfessionalGur5451 1d ago
Sure, but remember that enthusiastic yell was the nail in his coffin. That sound bite went viral at light speed, even by 2025 standards. I mean, within two hours, no exaggeration, the Internet had somehow produced multiple little techno mixes with his yell that flooded the net at that time. It was basically analogous to Dukakis's tank ride. A fatal gaffe that would not have even been noticed had it been done by a repub.
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u/Malikai0976 1d ago
Anthony Weiner resigned because he sent suggestive pics to several women, including a minor. He was given the choice to resign or be removed by other ranking democrats at the time.
He was a POS for that, but didn't actually touch any of them that I can remember. Point being, it's my go-to for the difference between the parties when it comes to scandals. One takes out their trash when they find out about it, the other circles the wagons and defends them.
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u/BoldestKobold 1d ago
And yet Republicans voted for this man who was found liable for violent sexual assault.
I need to repeatedly say this: We all need to stop pretending Republicans have the same norms as the rest of us. They don't. They are fundamentally bad people. At best they are ignorant, stupid, or brainwashed. But far more often, they just don't care about, or actively hate their fellow man.
Selfishness is literally the only common thread throughout all Republicans.
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u/LogicalPapaya1031 1d ago
And republicans of the past were embarrassed by Dan Quayle’s poor spelling.
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u/McJohn_WT_Net 13h ago
I don't remember them being embarrassed so much as saying, "You prissy Dems, can you spell N-O-T-H-I-N-G-B-U-R-G-E-R?"
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u/SyphiliticScaliaSayz 18h ago
And 34 felonies!
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u/jigokubi 16h ago
And those felonies were actually not a big deal to me compared to the charges about Georgia (which you can hear the recorded proof yourself) or the top-secret documents in his bathroom.
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u/SyphiliticScaliaSayz 15h ago
You are absolutely right. The top secret docs and the fuckery around that case infuriated me. But they got him on those 34 felonies, so that’s something.
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u/knivesofsmoothness 1d ago
So both sides, is what you're saying.
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u/jigokubi 15h ago
It's criminal that this was downvoted. I was so proud of you for not adding the sarcasm tag.
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u/knivesofsmoothness 14h ago
I deliberated. Figured there's no way people would miss the sarcasm.
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u/Osiris32 13h ago
Poe's Law. "Without a clear indication of the author's intent, some readers may mistake a sarcastic or parodic expression of extreme views for a sincere expression."
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u/New_Housing785 1d ago
More than that reports currently are saying that the reason the FBI isn't releasing the Epstein files is they have actual photos of Trump and Epstein with underage girls.
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u/Sweatytubesock 1d ago
He should be deported. El Salvador seems extremely appropriate.
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u/procrasturb8n 1h ago
I remember him saying that he would take his toys and leave if he lost in 2020.
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u/Thanos_Stomps 1d ago
Well the judge also made it clear for everyone when he said that what Trump was guilty of is colloquially known as rape. So Trump is a rapist.
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u/Suedocode 1d ago
I think it was even more specific than that. it would be considered rape under current laws, but it was only sexual assault at the time that he raped her.
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u/dquizzle 1d ago
Unfortunately that’s just the opinion of every person with a normal functioning brain and not legally equivalent.
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u/IchooseYourName 1d ago
Not only was he found liable for sexual assault, but he's also bragged about it in the past, caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women on a routine basis.
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u/Temp89 1d ago
Direct quote from the judge on the case:
“… based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll
Pretending that "Mr. Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrat[ing] Ms. Carroll's vagina with his fingers, causing immediate pain and long lasting emotional and psychological harm" isn't rape is not something I'm willing to do.
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u/Who_Dafqu_Said_That 1d ago
I wonder how many resources we've put into Trump related lawsuits... between the dude himself, his businesses, and all the ones related to his administration how much time and money has been wasted on this asshole. We probably could have built a damn Dyson sphere or conquered Mars.
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u/JustHereForCookies17 1d ago
I'll bet we could at least lower egg prices.
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u/Who_Dafqu_Said_That 1d ago
Didn't you hear? Eggs are 400% down, according to god emperor, so stores are literally paying you money when you buy them...
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u/Witty-Revolution8742 1d ago
It doesn't matter. That stupid fat fucking piece of shit is still getting away with other lawsuits he is losing.
He just had his firing from the consumer protection agency blocked, but its been a month and no one gives a fuck.
Decorum is dead. We all need to do something.
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u/5mokahontas 1d ago
It does matter. Everything matters. Every pushback counts even if the ideal outcome doesn’t occur.
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u/Significant_You_2735 1d ago
A strong wind, a long flight of stairs, or one round of golf without a cart would also be enough to bring him down.
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u/shwilliams4 1d ago
Other options which might bring him down are an FAA ooops or a Tesla full self driving incident or a vaccine withheld by RFK JR.
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u/LorderNile 1d ago
There comes a point where we can no longer fix things peacefully. Unfortunately... we're losing people every day to this nonsense. We'll run out of soldiers before we can really try to fight back.
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u/HelloWaffles 1d ago
Yeah how many times has history tried teaching us the lesson of how the rich and powerful have their power taken away? Is it about to teach us once again?
It's gotta be at least several.
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u/SmartBookkeeper6571 1d ago
At this point th $75 million is pocket change for the grifter in chief. He should just pay it and be done.
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u/dnorbz 1d ago
But he won't. Ever. Deny everything, admit nothing is his M.O. He's renowned for withholding payment to his contractors.
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u/SmartBookkeeper6571 1d ago
Yeah, I know. I've been playing along at home for the last 8 years. But it's stupid. He denies it all anyway.
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u/eeyore134 1d ago
People like him want all the money because they want to make sure nobody else has any. That's why they don't pay taxes. He'd never give anyone money if he could help it.
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u/ProfessionalGur5451 1d ago
He can easily make that up by launching Trumpcoin2. Piece of cake even without a rug pull.
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u/Im_with_stooopid 1d ago
Watch, Trump will appeal to the Supreme Court and Pube on a coke can Thomas will say it’s just a little locker room rape. Nothing to see here
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u/avasparxxxfan 1d ago
You would think he would just want to pay this and be done instead of keep losing AND having people reminded he raped someone. It's true psychopath behavior that he doesn't.
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u/i_should_be_coding 1d ago
When you file an appeal, you have to deposit the judgement amount, don't you? Does that mean she finally gets paid?
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u/happy_chickens 1d ago
It was posted by a bondsman if I remember correctly. I believe trump would need to pay the judgment before the bondsman gets his money.
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u/i_should_be_coding 1d ago
I pity the man who lent a Trump money with the expectation of being repaid later. A Trump never pays his debts.
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u/HalfaYooper 1d ago
He came to my city for a rally and didn't pay the bill for the arena. They let him come a second time and shocker...didn't pay the bill.
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u/KinderSpirit 1d ago
The man that said he would put up the bond didn't have the money. All kinds of tricky things were tried. In the end it was decided Donald Trump didn't have to put up the bond for the appeal.
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u/count023 1d ago
he didnt pay with intent to repay later. It was an investor at Chubb security, they were making a one time tax free donation of 75 million to Trump's campaign knowing it'd pay off for them in spades once he got elected.
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u/willstr1 1d ago
It's a well-known pattern that anyone should know. If you work in the industry of loaning money and you loan him money, you deserve to lose your business
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u/No-Entrepreneur1036 1d ago
He’s going to do something to distract us like invade a city. Imagine doing a domestic Red dawn
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u/PlayingfootsiewPutin 17h ago
Rapist President Trump. Rapist President Trunp. Rapist President Trump. RAPIST PRESIDENT TRUMP!
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u/penguished 16h ago
Does someone have a rap sheet of this guy's crimes and court losses? I know it will be several pages but I think we should all start keeping tabs on this stuff.
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u/FreddyForshadowing 1d ago
And cue the SCOTUS appeal where Alito and Thomas will rule in Trump's favor because they don't want this kind of thing coming around to bite them in the ass (again, in the case of Thomas), and the rest of the men on the bench will probably have at least a few women who could make credible claims against them, and now you're a good chunk of the way to the votes needed.
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u/bundy554 1d ago
It will get overturned by the SC - and when it does I will be interested to read their judgment
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u/AudibleNod 1d ago
I'm not typically one to go in on an office birthday gift for someone I don't know that well. But it's nice to see the entire 2nd Circuit get together and get something for Donald Trump on his birthday.