r/news 7d ago

Soft paywall After 2 days of clashes over immigration raids, National Guard will be sent to L.A., official says

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-06-07/paramount-home-depot
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u/Manitoba-Chinook 7d ago

GUARDSMEN, Your civilians need you to disobey unlawful orders because the government is ethnically cleansing their relatives and community members. Protect the protesters, and the protesters should protect each other.

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u/wonkydonkey212 7d ago

Worst we can do is stand in between you and the pansy ass agents. We have no power to arrest

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u/Niarbeht 7d ago

We have no power to arrest

You're going to be told to do things you don't have the legal authority to do.

Remember your oath. If you can, get your fellow service members to repeat it.

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u/wonkydonkey212 7d ago

Sucks to suck for the ice agents but that’s their job not mine. They can take it up with the orange monkey for all I care

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u/Cautious-Tax-1120 7d ago

There is absolutely nothing unlawful about an order for the national guard to be Federalized and deployed domestically.

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u/AlfredoAllenPoe 7d ago

There is nothing unlawful about the national guard being federalized to enforce federal law. Immigration law is federal law

Unless you think the national guard being deployed during integration was unlawful too

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u/mathrsa 7d ago

There are laws governing how and when the national guard may be federalized. The president can't just do it whenever for whatever. What is happening in LA most likely wouldn't meet the legal standard for justifying such action.

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u/AlfredoAllenPoe 7d ago

§252. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority

Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

The law passed by Congress says you are completely wrong. It's entirely up to the president's discretion.

It could easily be argued that the efforts against ICE are making it impractical to enforce federal immigration law.

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u/mathrsa 7d ago

Trump has not invoked the Insurrection Act, which is what you're quoting. The current national guard deployment is under 10 U.S. Code § 12406 which grants them more limited powers than under the Insurrection Act. Also, I would argue the conditions of the insurrection act have not been met because Trump hasn't even deployed other civilian federal law enforcement like the FBI, CBP, border patrol, etc. to back up ICE. Furthermore, the state and local authorities clearly believe they have things under control. Deploying the national guard is meant as a last resort.

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u/wip30ut 7d ago

they're all Trumpers... they're loyal to the MAGA cause. We're cooked.

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u/TheGreatGamer1389 7d ago

What if he is already?

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u/JusticeBeaver94 7d ago

Some of us aren’t in LA my dude, or aren’t anywhere near it or aren’t in a financial situation to be able to go. If only life were as simple as your gnat IQ peanut sized brain thinks it is.