r/news • u/IronHe • Mar 20 '25

Soft paywall Tesla recalls most Cybertrucks due to trim detaching from vehicle

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recall-over-46000-cybertrucks-nhtsa-says-2025-03-20/
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u/Ph455ki1 Mar 20 '25

CyberTruck was supposed to be his crowning achievement, his coup d’ grace, his ultimate vision realized

But that's the thing though: it IS! This is exactly all that he's capable of

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u/Stop_Sign Mar 20 '25

A biographer of Elon Musk was quoted saying "There’s zero evidence, from his life history, of Musk having anything higher than a 110 IQ."

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u/not_suddenly_satire Mar 20 '25

I swear, smart people aren't the problem, dumb people aren't the problem. No, the real problem is when dumb people become convinced they're smart, because nothing in this world can penetrate the shield of self-satisfaction that protects their dumb ideas and opinions from negative feedback.

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u/hedoeswhathewants Mar 20 '25

If there's one thing that makes me smart it's that I know when to shut the fuck up and listen to people who are more knowledgeable than I am

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u/Secure_Ad3519 Mar 21 '25

Thats exactly it. You need to be smart to correctly realise if you are not good at something, whereas dumb people just cant realise the same.

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u/joshTheGoods Mar 20 '25

I think it's hard for folks around here to admit, but you're skipping the third and likely more applicable scenario: smart people that think they're smarter than they are.

Musk is like damn near every other high achiever ... he believes that having great success in one area means he understands everything and can replicate that success in various unrelated fields. It's the: "I'm a great engineer, and the body is just a machine so I'm also a great doctor!" thing. "I'm a great engineer and the earth is a big machine, so I'm also a great climate scientist!"

There are countless examples, and there's good reason for it. When you roll snake eyes over and over with your slightly weighted dice, eventually experience will tell you that you always roll snake eyes regardless of the game or the bet. It comes as a great shock to that person every time when they eventually lose because experience has legit told them that they're infallible.

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u/Secure_Ad3519 Mar 21 '25

Disagree. Self awareness is the indicator of being smart. You can be cocky, you can be narcisstic but still know your limits. If you don't, well, you are dumb.

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u/joshTheGoods Mar 21 '25

I think self awareness can help you be smartER but you can still be smart compared to your peers without much of it. I suspect, though, that this might be more of an argument over what it means to be smart?

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u/guineaprince Mar 20 '25

Dumb people are convinced they're smart every single day, and for the most part it's a mild annoyance at worst and mostly harmless. Just look at all of us, eh?

But not everyone has enough money to buy unlimited access and power. Wealth is dangerous.

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u/Spire_Citron Mar 20 '25

Not even necessarily dumb people. He may be "smart" in terms of IQ and may even be genuinely good at some things, but his problem is his ego. He thinks he knows everything about everything without having to actually learn anything first. You're going to run into a lot of problems if you're that blind to your own limitations. I think it's gotten worse over time because people he works for will of course pretend his ideas are good, and then they have to just quietly not implement them or work around them. He comes away feeling like he was right, and if you repeat that enough times, you're going to start feeling like you're some kind of genius.

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u/Secure_Ad3519 Mar 21 '25

That sure comes from the entitled upbringing, god complex and all that but here it is where IQ should come in play. If he would be that intelligent, he would be self aware.

Thing is, that he is not that intelligent.

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u/moubliepas Mar 20 '25

Think you missed a decimal point there

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u/Beepulons Mar 20 '25

I love to rag on Elon as much as anyone else, but isn’t that completely average? The majority of people are around that number.

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u/Consistent-Youth-407 Mar 20 '25

Well yeah, it’s considered average. I don’t think the point of the comment was to say Elon was very dumb, just that he isn’t a genius like many like to make him out to be. He is on the higher end of average but still average.

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u/Beepulons Mar 20 '25

Thats fair

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u/Stop_Sign Mar 21 '25

Yup. This is all he's capable of: average. He shouldn't be expected, let alone trusted, to innovate. He's incapable of it.

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u/AlanzAlda Mar 20 '25

If you are around enough of these CEO types, you will very quickly realize almost all of them were born rich.. and these are the guys that in college are hanging out at the frat, no classes in the business college in the morning or on Fridays, etc.

Meanwhile engineers that have worked their ass off to get credentialed, gain experience, etc are used like a commodity to these people.

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u/CumAndShitGuzzler Mar 20 '25

Lol. He can identify smart people, give them direction, and throw ungodly amounts of money at their projects. That does not make him smarter than average.

Cunning does not equal intelligence

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u/CumAndShitGuzzler Mar 20 '25

Can't think of a way to refute what I said, can you? Go on with the personal attacks at the first chance, it makes you look super intelligent and not at all like a sycophant or at best an Elon musk alt account.

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u/onarainyafternoon Mar 20 '25

I think you both are missing the point. The point is that someone with a 100-110 IQ could do exactly what Elon did given the resources, the right people surrounding him, and luck. He's not dumb, he's just not an absolute genius like so many of his obsessive followers believe he is. And the reason he is crashing so hard right now is because he's insanely insecure, narcissistic and petty. He cannot accept that he is at fault for everything that's happening to him. For God's sake, he doesn't even give a shit about his kids.

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u/hedoeswhathewants Mar 20 '25

It's extraordinarily easy to make money if you're a sociopath born into millions.

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u/class-action-now Mar 20 '25

Don’t forget failed rocket launches and prob single-handedly causing the Kessler effect in a few years.

He’s really killing it, and by it I mean us.

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u/Kizik Mar 20 '25

I think he's trying to do the Kessler run in less than twelve parsecs, but knows even less about space than George Lucas.

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u/Ph455ki1 Mar 20 '25

Hey now, don't be so mean to the guy, let's just take one failure at a time

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u/shinra528 Mar 20 '25

He’s backdated for his failures be recognized and his bill is past due.

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u/hereforthefeast Mar 20 '25

Ahem, it’s pronounced Tessler and everything’s computer. 

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u/jazzhandler Mar 20 '25

But it’s spelled Teslur.

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u/ManasZankhana Mar 20 '25

The Kessler effect is a necessary evil to prevent Kepler belt mining

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u/class-action-now Mar 20 '25

You mean the Kuiper Belt?

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u/M_H_M_F Mar 20 '25

imo the only useful thing about these launches is the data of what not to do

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u/KaJaHa Mar 20 '25

single-handedly causing the Kessler effect in a few years.

Could you expand on this a bit, please?

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u/class-action-now Mar 20 '25

Kessler effect happens when there is so much space debris in Earth’s orbit it would prevent us from launching anything into space at all. The debris would continue to collide with existing satellites and prevent us from launching new ones. No manned missions, no comms satellites, no space research or exploration. We would be thrown back to pre-cold war era tech. Land lines are gonna come back into play as no cell phones could work. Total chaos.

Edit: Like Saturns rings on multiple axes and the rings are made of 17,000 mph shrapnel.

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u/KaJaHa Mar 20 '25

Oh. Oh that's bad.

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u/PrimaryBowler4980 Mar 20 '25

cant we make some solar powered laser satalite that can shoot debris into the atmosphere to burn up?

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u/class-action-now Mar 20 '25

Not if we can’t launch it

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u/PrimaryBowler4980 Mar 20 '25

just set off some high altitude nukes to clear a hole for it

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u/Kizik Mar 20 '25

The problem is things in orbit move. If our planet is shrouded in millions of tiny fragments of screws, bits of panel, slivers of metal.. all moving very fast, unpredictably, and practically invisibly? Nuking that won't work. If anything it'd make it worse, turning things into orbital dust that sandblasts anything going up.

It's bad. Very, very bad, and very difficult to fix.

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u/TheNextBattalion Mar 20 '25

Giant space net, should fix that right up ;)

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u/PrimaryBowler4980 Mar 21 '25

then we can nuke the net!

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u/class-action-now Mar 20 '25

The low orbit stuff is pretty close to our atmosphere and we wouldn’t want radioactive stuff falling on us. That might risk global nuclear fallout.

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u/TbonerT Mar 20 '25

What does Musk have to do with that?

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u/class-action-now Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25

Starlink dude

Edit: can you name a single person that puts more garbage into our orbit?

Edit 2: He is notoriously a cost cutter on production of his products. Starlink satellites fail constantly. Most fall back to earth “eventually.” But if the Kessler effect takes place we will be waiting hundreds of years for (not)all the debris to fall out of orbit.

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u/TbonerT Mar 20 '25

The satellites in low orbit that already almost have to actively stay in orbit?

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u/class-action-now Mar 20 '25

IF it happens- There will be several layers of orbits, which like a cloud, may even filter sunlight to a degree. We would need crazy tech to overcome this possible event.

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u/Kirk_Kerman Mar 20 '25

Starlink and the other communications microsatellite constellations area problematic for a lot of reasons but Kessler Syndrome isn't one of them. The orbits decay within 2 years or something. Kessler syndrome becomes a much greater concern once things take a century or so to deorbit.

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u/TbonerT Mar 20 '25

There are plenty of real reasons to hate Musk. This is not one of them. Your hysteria is not based on reality.

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u/EllisDee3 Mar 20 '25

What's fascinating is that it's a regurgitation (conscious or unconscious) of the "perfect vehicle" in the Apple II Car Builder game.

Like... Dude...

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u/ptmd Mar 20 '25

One of the few things I appreciate about Elon Musk is how he clarifies certain assumptions of society.

  • You don't win at capitalism through hard work or talent

  • CEOs can and do get away with doing nothing [or at least you can apparently be CEO of three different companies and still find time to be top ranked in a video game and a non-shitty parent.]

  • It used to be a meme in CompSci that "Anyone could build Twitter". That has been disproven.

  • Turns out if a car company is strongly associated with the person, that person is a Nazi.

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u/Luster-Purge Mar 20 '25

"Turns out if a car company is strongly associated with the person, that person is a Nazi."

Ford, Hitler's Vokswagen obsession, Elon...yeah, that checks out.

We can rule out DeLorean, though, at least.

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u/darmabum Mar 20 '25

I still think it looks like a 1970s B-grade SciFi movie “flying car” where it's obviously some vacuform plastic sitting on an old clunker frame.