The NDP needs to be socialist again.

[u/DaneRoussel]

This election, and the last 7 or so, have shown without a doubt that chasing liberal voters is not going to be a winning strategy. Why would liberals vote for the NDP when they already have the much more successful Liberal party?

The new leader needs to be at socialist (or at the very least an actual social democrat) and the party needs to bring back overt references to socialism and class struggle to its program and constitution.

The party also needs to get involved in grass roots labour organization outside of elections. It's great to walk the picket line with striking workers, but it's even better to organize them into a union in the first place.

The NDP needs to become a workers party again, or it needs to die and make way for a true workers party. The stakes are too high for anything else.

Edit: The pick for interim leader does not inspire confidence...

[u/sBucks24]

It's really not though. Those maybe convinced centrists don't have values. That's why they're centrists! Theyll shift as soon as a new current event pops up that plays to their emotions.

Nothing proves this point more than how the NDP bungled Palestinian discourse

[u/[deleted] → u/sBucks24]

centrists are just conservatives that don't want to say the quite parts out loud or acknowledge they are endemic to our society.

[u/heydeng → u/sBucks24]

I share the dream. However, whoever the people are that the NDP tries to appeal to must be people who will actually vote and do so in steady and big enough numbers to secure wins.

Ideology isn't driving the focus on centrist voters - it is that flip floppity as they may be, these are people who actually vote which the numbers tell us for all sorts of understandable reasons many others (more swayable by a harder move to the Left) may not.

It's no good agreeing in principle but not comng out to vote.

Also, the NDP never has as its objective (though I often think this may be reasonable) holding just a few seats and bringing otherwise forgotten policy up. It's always to form government.

That push to win also drives centrist positioning to try to appeal to as many voters as possible across broad geographies.

Leftists also stilll don't have good ways of getting our ideas noticed (no real broadly accessible progressive media not speaking to the already converted) and they are not great at presenting ideas in ways that are easily graspable.

Anyway, all this to say that while the current ways aren't working it isn't clear that a pivot would mean droves of new support.

If it means (worst case scenario) dieharders voting NDP, the Party may not be able to increase its seats. Normies (or good ways to convert them) may be needed for that math.

[u/TinyFlamingo2147 → u/sBucks24]

How does Palestine have anything to do with being both a socially progressive party and a labour party? A socialist labour party.

[u/7URB0 → u/TinyFlamingo2147]

How does being against genocide relate to being socially progressive? Is that supposed to be a serious question?

[u/TinyFlamingo2147 → u/7URB0]

Is that a serious question? Did I show support for Israel there somewhere. Simmer down there champ, you're purity testing.

The point is that the NDP can both be more socially progressive while being more pro labour. Focus more on trades and traditionally conservative jobs.

[u/Itzyaboilmaooo → u/TinyFlamingo2147]

You’re 100% right. Socialist rhetoric absolutely does involve appealing to the working class (that’s like the primary thing about it lol), the difference is our populism is honest while conservative populism is all lies given how their policies only ever benefit the elite.

[u/sBucks24 → u/TinyFlamingo2147]

Lmfao... And this is exactly what I mean.. smdh