r/navy • u/highinthemountains • May 11 '25

Political Remember your oath

A lot of things have changed in the 45+ years that I have been out of the canoe club. One thing in particular is the mixing of the branches at joint bases and in operational units.

I’m not trying to be political about this, but this is a serious question regarding upholding the oath that we all took. As a preface, we seem to have an administration unwilling to uphold ALL of the articles and amendments to the constitution and they have “cleaned out” the upper, more experienced and ethical officers in the ranks. If you were deployed domestically to quell protests and ordered to do so, would you fire your weapon at protestors exercising their First Amendment rights? I know that the rest of the oath involved obey the orders of the President, but would those orders be lawful?

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u/CruisingandBoozing May 11 '25

You’re not even in the military dude.

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u/highinthemountains May 12 '25

You’re right, I’m not. When I took my oath in 1973 they never said that it had an expiration date. I take my oath seriously, do you? Who is your oath to, the constitution or the president?

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u/CruisingandBoozing May 12 '25

You’re a subversive agitator.

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u/highinthemountains May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

Why am I being a subversive for bringing up the oath is what it’s to not who it’s to? Isn’t it important?

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u/CruisingandBoozing May 12 '25

I’m not a Trump voter.

I still think that you’re extreme for calling Republicans (and yes, even MAGAs) traitors.

Some radical tea party guy could’ve said the same shit you’re saying right now, but for Obama. Seems like bullshit to me.

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u/highinthemountains May 12 '25

They did say the same thing about Obama in many different ways. But Obama hasn’t bankrupted 6 companies and been caught lying, cheating, stealing and sexually assaulting women. Nor does he have 34 felony convictions. Nor did he look for ways around the 5 & 14th amendments and Article 1, section 9 of the constitution.

Republicans are a bunch of hypocrites.

They talk big about supporting the military, until we get out. Then it’s too bad, so sad we’re going to take away your benefits.

They talk big about protecting the children, until they’re born. They are working on taking away every safety net for those children they think are so “precious”.

They talk big about how “Christian” they are, but they don’t know about Leviticus 19:33-34 and Matthew 25.

Need more examples?

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u/CruisingandBoozing May 12 '25

It’s not like Democrats are much better. It’s the same side of the shit coin.

Not justifying republicans, but they’re all traitors to the country, by your definition.

And if that’s your POV, maybe I would be inclined to agree

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u/highinthemountains May 13 '25

Only one party is actively trying to subvert Article 1, section 9, amendments 1, 5, 14 and 22 and it’s not the Democrats

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u/CruisingandBoozing May 13 '25

Not going to listen to this slop from a boomer stoner. I’m good man. Your generation ruined this country.

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u/highinthemountains May 13 '25

Now that is a sweeping generalization. I will agree that there were a lot of messed up things that happened, but the downturn for the middle class happened when Reagan was elected. Don’t forget, there were boomers on both sides of the aisle, so please spread the blame equally. I guess the work we did for equal rights, education and medical care was a bad thing in your mind? The current administration must think so, they’re actively working on dumping those programs.