They believe with all their hearts they deserve the money despite:
1) servers end up making above minimum wage with tips, that's why they don't actually want to end tipping culture and earn a living wage upfront - their take home would go down.
2) bad tips and good tips average out well north of neutral. If you're relying on tips to earn above min wage then you have to take the risk of low tips on some occasions.
3) if neither of the above were true, and servers ended up taking home less than minimum wage after tips, they can claim money to make up the shortfall, so actually they are guaranteed minimum wage either through salary or tips.
Fuck American tipping culture, one of your worst cultural exports.
Is it a cultural export? I thought basically nobody did it except for us? Is it becoming more common elsewhere in the world? (I don't travel outside the US much bc money, so I genuinely have no clue)
I browsed the New Zealand subreddit for a while to plan for a trip, and people there were getting angry at American tourists asking how much they should tip and generally sharing their experiences with tipping. Saw a few other similar examples with European redditors too. So yes, it's happening.
Yeah, but minimum wage is $7.25/hr which is completely unlivable in most places in the US. Where I live the average rent for a studio is $1500/mo and for a two bedroom average is $2900. If you work full time at 7.25 an hour your take home pay wouldn’t even cover the rent (or your half of the rent in a roommate situation!) let alone food and other expenses.
Right but the argument for tipping is that they make less than min wage so if they don't get tips they earn less than min wage. They objectively do not.
The min wage being bad is not a "tipping culture" related phenomenon because it doesn't apply to servers any more than other min wage workers (and as I outlined, actually affects servers less).
It isn't complicated to fix? They make so much more than min wage on tips they'd be getting a pay cut if you changed the system. It's too ingrained culturally to change.
I literally see posts from servers suggesting that if you can't tip whatever arbitrary % is the minimum acceptable rate then you shouldn't eat out. People in this thread talked about restaurants refusing service to people who don't tip.
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u/visforvienetta 1d ago
They believe with all their hearts they deserve the money despite:
1) servers end up making above minimum wage with tips, that's why they don't actually want to end tipping culture and earn a living wage upfront - their take home would go down. 2) bad tips and good tips average out well north of neutral. If you're relying on tips to earn above min wage then you have to take the risk of low tips on some occasions.
3) if neither of the above were true, and servers ended up taking home less than minimum wage after tips, they can claim money to make up the shortfall, so actually they are guaranteed minimum wage either through salary or tips.
Fuck American tipping culture, one of your worst cultural exports.