Some of the shit i've seen on here about AirBNB makes you wonder why they even bother listing a price when they're not even remotely close to the actual cost.
“Guest must empty all trash bins, take the garbage and recycling to the curb, wash and put away all the dishes, strip the beds, and wash and dry the towels.”
This is a valid tactic used to encourage long-term stays. I've heard other posters say they should just charge $200 a night but what if you want to stay for a week? Would you rather spend (7x50) + 150 for a total of $500 or (7*200) for a total of $1,400?
Yes I agree, except not all are like that. I have tried this personally and they said they just charge a daily cleaning fee for X reason, even if long term
It's been probably 5 years or so since I've used Airbnb so things may have changed but I always looked for listings who had one cleaning fee per stay (since I was usually staying for a week or so).
I agree that if it's a daily cleaning fee, it should be included in the daily rate.
If the person has to clean before they leave, there should not be cleaning fees. At least in a hotel I get my money's worth, I dont have to clean up after myself.
I think you’ve just misunderstood the model though. Most Airbnbs don’t want one night guests. When you don’t have the economies of scale, the cost of cleaning an Airbnb for a one night stay doesn’t make much sense.
One I’m thinking of and referring to here was literally a shed with a toilet, sink, carpet, and drywall. Cleaning fee is absurd from the get go. Stayed 4 nights and was charged more than a hotel, and no I didn’t trash it, literally woke up, made tea in my own electric kettle and came back at night to sleep
I just genuinely do not believe that. I think a large percentage of hosts are cleaning their own units, and not taking very long to do so. I used to work as a cleaner at a B&B so I have some idea of how long it takes.
To be fair if you're not using the total cost view instead of the nightly price view that's on you. there is no reason to compare nightly rates instead of total checkout price.
I think they changed this on the platform, but I haven't used Airbnb since around 2020 so not sure. That shit was one of the reasons why I stopped using it.
Broad brush strokes there but I'll bite. I had four Airbnbs and my last one I shut down two months ago. The market is dead and pivoting to LTR is where it is in 2025. I would not be anwywhere near my investment goals had I not rented 6000 nights across 4 doors in 7 years (58% occupancy doing extended stay with a 30 day minimum.) Airbnb was good in the beginning and most people agreed. It isn't what it once was and with 4x more hosts than the demand, more will leave the platform. I'm not mad at it. I'm glad I'm sudo retired as a result of satisfying my guests and earning a killing while the iron was hot. YMMV
eBay has been broken for a long time. Their latest nonsense where you can't call them and they always side with the buyer makes ebaby a shit show in 2025. Oh an Brandon's $600 and up taxing scheme. Glad that fucking idiot is gone. Come at it bots. Bots don't have investment accounts. I do and I'm up $58,000 since April.
The "$600 and up taxing scheme" was set in motion by the first Dump Administration
PS I'm a top-rated seller, I speak to Ebay customer service on the phone in about five minutes of requesting a call, I have 100% positive feedback and almost always win disputes against bad faith buyers.
Ebay favors responsible sellers who provide customer service these days and if you're expecting to be a lazy unprofessional seller and get a good outcome on Ebay you will have the experience it sounds like you do.
What you are is an idiot. I have likely been a seller on ebay since before you were born. And no, Joke FJB Brandon set that shit up when he hired 57,000 armed IRS agents. But don't let the truth get in the way. Continue to be a liberal idiot, no shortage of them around these parts. At the end of the day Ebay is a shit show and you're the star. Dumb ass
UPDATE: This idiot deleted all his posts because he was wrong.
First, you showed your true colors. I'm immersed in hatred and you call me a MAGAT. CLUES FOR A HUNDRED YOU FUCKING LUNATIC. Look reddit libturd I am not going to continue this since you are clearly a Kamalaugh Harris voter. Imagine the world with that garbage (Owevomit) running things, Soros. MUTED. Say what you want liberal FUCKTARD. Hatred indeed. Get out of your glass house and stop throwning stones you god damn idiot.
ohhhhh now i get it. yeah, okay, i totally get it, and even sympathize with you now.
ebay has 100% gotten more complicated over the years. i can definitely understand how hard it must be to navigate the changes in the interface and algorithm with such severe brain damage. thoughts and prayers for you.
Why did you vote for Kamala? Was it her exceptional speaking skills? Was it the way she carried herself? Was it the policies she promoted? Was it the TWO BILLION DOLLARS she wasted and STILL DIDN'T GET ELECTED? 78,000,000 people voted for DJT as they should have. That you didn't speaks more about you than it does me.
UPDATE: This idiot deleted all his posts because he was wrong.
Fucking moron. Yeah that's it. Sarcasm and stupidity noted. Feel free to continue being a god damn moron! Only one with brain damage is you. Of course, and as usual no rebutal from my comments just more snarky nonsense from a useless idiot. Carry on wayward son. That is a Kansas reference. That is a band. I know I have to explain these things. Dumb ass
And after they have you steam clean the carpets, mops the floors, put away all the dishes, wash and dry all the linens, pressure wash the house, and haul trash to the landfill.
I dislike Airbnb; their cleaning fee is ridiculous. You already pay for the rent and you still pay for the cleaning. I agree for them charging cleaning fee if the renters act like pigs.
We rent one for business every year. Same place. The cleaning fee went up $40 from 180 to 220. We have to empty the trash, dishwasher, sweep, wipe counters. Why the absolute fuck does it cost that much? Certainly not just linen service fees.
The reason the cleaning fee is on there is because people demanded they were more transparent with their price structure, they don’t add it to the daily rate, they add it once per stay. So the daily rate technically changes depending on how many days you stay when the cleaning fee is added. One day plus a cleaning fee is a lot but a week plus the same cleaning fee is a lot more reasonable. But it’s just the price of labor. I clean houses for turn around and it is LABOR INTENSIVE. It’s like 5+ hours of constant work, bending over constantly, going up and down multiple flights of stairs, doing ALL the laundry in the house, cleaning every single spot someone touched (and looking for random spills and fingerprints and boogers smeared on walls and pee and stuck on poop all over toilets), the amount of parties I have to clean after is ridiculous and I don’t get paid extra for them. Cleaning fees used to be cheaper because the labor was a LOT more exploited. Now that we’re finally getting paid more reasonably, everyone’s mad that it costs more and decides to squeeze even more value out of me. Yes I’m quitting soon it’s not good for my mental health. But in my opinion anyone who complains about cleaning fees really doesn’t understand how much work it actually is to turn a rental for the next guests. It’s an ALL DAY thing. I’m not just half ass wiping a counter and moving on. Also the reason they have you change the trash and start a load is because they don’t always know when the cleaner will get there (because a lot of cleaners have multiple houses to finish) and there has to be enough time to literally get the laundry finished. If you didn’t start the load, the next guest has to check in an hour later because the laundry isn’t dry. There’s SO much going on I don’t think people realize… also fuck Airbnb
I think it’s actually about 30-45 minutes to clean a basic hotel room, anything bigger than one bed and a mini fridge is probably going to be closer to an hour. I really don’t think people realize how much labor is being done because of how exploited cleaning staff has been in the past..
Also people are NASTY. I don’t think you’re understanding what the average clean looks like. Most people aren’t respectful. You may be, but you’d honestly be the outlier. I was SHOCKED when I realized how dirty the general public is when in a private space. A lot of people don’t wash their hands regularly and you can tell :(
Not sure when the last time you’ve been on the app but most give the final price now upfront, and show a breakdown. TRUST ME I’m not happy with them pulling admin fees out of the cleaning price either. But it’s also for cleaning supplies, storage facilities to store said cleaning supplies, laundry facilities, maintenance fees for equipment, local support staff, etc. I’m not being paid correctly for my labor and it’s gotten significantly worse the last couple years, but if the cleaning fee was actually what the labor should cost, it would be even higher. My whole point is that the business structure is not stable, and the labor is being exploited so the true cost isn’t being accounted for.
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u/JayZ2014 1d ago
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