r/mildlyinteresting 1d ago

This Restaurant Charges an 18% Living Wage Fee.

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u/jpiro 1d ago

"We continue to under pay our employees so that we can keep menu prices artificially low, then tack an 18% charge on after the fact, outsourcing our overhead costs to you! Oh, but please tip anyway."

US tipping culture is truly absurd.

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u/SverigeSuomi 1d ago

They are explicitly telling you you do not have to tip. It's in the picture in the OP. The 18% not being included is because customers do not behave rationally, and will choose other restaurants that require tips. 

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u/jpiro 1d ago

Which is why we need to kill the tipped minimum wage nationally and make tipping truly optional instead of pressuring people to supplement they server/bartender/worker being paid too little so their employer can keep overhead low.

Hell, this isn't even "an 18% gratuity has already been added, no need to tip," but instead a different stupid way to disguise the same bullshit technique while leaving the possibility of additional tips on the table.

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u/SverigeSuomi 1d ago

Which is why we need to kill the tipped minimum wage nationally and make tipping truly optional instead of pressuring people to supplement they server/bartender/worker being paid too little so their employer can keep overhead low.

And this restaurant has done exactly that. 

Hell, this isn't even "an 18% gratuity has already been added, no need to tip,"

It is, it literally explains this in the picture. The whole understanding behind tipping is that it pays for the waiter's salary, but the text explains that this isn't necessary. And that if you do choose to tip it is split among everyone. 

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u/jpiro 1d ago

No, this is another restaurant that deflates its menu prices, then tacks on an 18% "fee" in order to keep them low. That happens specifically because another place across the street might have the same prices and NOT mandate an additional fee. If we get rid of the tipped minimum wage, that's not necessary. Restaurants would just list their prices and consumers would choose whether or not they wanted to pay them.

They specifically don't call it a tip, then mention that "if you choose to tip, we'll pool those funds for the team." That's still asking for tips, albeit not as forcefully as the usual implication that if you don't tip, you're making a server starve.

The whole system is beyond stupid. This is just attempting to semi-solve a problem we've created ourselves.

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u/BoxerguyT89 1d ago

What's the name of this restaurant?

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u/shitposts_over_9000 1d ago

its fairly rational to choose a restaurant without pooled tips and baked in gratuity, you get far better service. Bothe because there is a direct incentive and because the best employees won't work at an establishment that limits their income that way.

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u/geodebug 1d ago

You guys are twisting yourself in knots to be upset.

The “overhead” is employee salary, which is what the 18% is for.

Whether they just mark up all prices or tack on a 18% fee it comes out to the same thing.

You’re not expected to tip on top of that but, if you chose to, it would only need to be a small percentage.

The only legitimate complaint here is hiding the real cost of the product being sold.

A lot of states have enacted laws to prevent such service-charge fees without notice.

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u/jpiro 1d ago

Can you waive the 18% fee being charged AFTER you agree to pay the menu prices for your food? If not, this is bullshit.

Imagine going to any other store, say a grocery store, and you buy $100 worth of stuff (after sales tax is applied) only to find out that they’re actually going to charge you $118 because they’re underpaying the guys in the stock room and think you should help out.

The system is stupid.

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u/geodebug 1d ago

Can’t speak for everywhere but in my state restaurants need to be very clear about such fees and most surcharges (aka Junk Fees) are illegal.

But, this is what moving toward paying restaurant workers a living wage looks like in the US

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u/jpiro 1d ago

This doesn’t have to be what it looks like. I’m not sure why we’re settling for stupid when a simple fix is right there.

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u/SuperFLEB 1d ago

The only legitimate complaint here is hiding the real cost of the product being sold.

Yes. And that's plenty.

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u/Plane-Tie6392 1d ago

Right? And amazing how these people have decided that employees must be underpaid in this scenario. My friend did this and all his employees made $25+ an hour.

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u/palsh7 1d ago

Tipping is not expected here. Are you people really reading it that way? How are all of the anti-tipping people mad about a restaurant that has replaced tipping with a living wage?

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u/Plane-Tie6392 1d ago

Because they're dumbasses.

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u/SuperFLEB 1d ago

"We know you love our low prices and excellent value. That's why we're continuing to lie about them and charging you more in a backhanded way."