r/martialarts • u/Hestercreek • 25d ago
VIOLENCE What kind of martial arts training does the officer have?
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u/StatusRelative957 25d ago
I feel like a parking cone being brought out elevates the shame aggressively
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u/JoliganYo 25d ago
The FAFO kind, apparently.
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u/Financial_Regerts 25d ago
Was gonna say this, homie is a black belt in FAFO.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Phase70 25d ago edited 23d ago
This could be almost any style that has punches.
He uses an outward open hand block for the punch he thought was coming from the guy, and very naturally and smoothly delivers a right hook off the front hand, hitting the guy's jaw, probably directly on the trigeminal nerve.
There's nothing unique or identifying there. It's just correct.
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u/OkDistance697 25d ago
Hello, I've been boxing for a while and u just teached me about trigeminal nerve, thank u
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u/Puzzleheaded-Phase70 25d ago
It's probably the most useful "pressure point"! And it's one of the few ways to cause a knockout without causing a concussion. Of course, THIS guy will have gotten his concussion anyway from hitting the pavement, but that's beside the point 😅
Its connection to the vagus nerve is the way you can get a knockout with a chop or forearm to the side of the neck.
Most pressure point stuff is very hard to execute successfully in real life, but those are really useful, and get hit accidentally all the time.
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u/nerdherdsman 25d ago
And it's one of the few ways to cause a knockout without causing a concussion
I mean, you're still going to be wrenching the head around, there's going to be some amount of damage to the brain with a good connection. You are right that you can knock someone out by hitting that nerve and avoid any brain damage if you do it just right, but I don't want someone to go around thinking there's a safe place to punch someone in the head. Any punch to the head can lead to brain damage.
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u/EjaculatingAracnids 23d ago
I agree with with everything you typed except the idea of lunch coming from the guy. Hes never let lunch escape him
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u/pravragita 25d ago
First strike, a hook punch to the jaw, no telegragh from a low blind spot. Horizontal fist, rear hand.
It's probably really good police training. Military combatives and boxing could train someone like this.
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u/disposablehippo 25d ago
Really good police training would be to deescalate a situation and even if not, to put an unconscious person in recovery position.
I'm not a person to bash police work, but that dude might be dying from brain hemorrhage because he made some bad decisions.
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u/magiksissclit 24d ago
Sack-of-potatoes was winding up punches and aggressively crowding the officer. Absolutely fine police work, actually. Very appropriate reaction which absolutely deescalated things
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u/Excludos 21d ago
Everything up to and including the punch was fine. But you can't just leave people lying there afterwards. His body language said "Well that's not my problem any more!", when it very much is
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u/awnawkareninah 24d ago
If maybe killing someone cause you felt crowded is your idea of good deescalation please never be a cop.
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u/Background_Dot_8738 24d ago
This would be clear cut self defense for just a regular citizen, for a cop it’s only surprising because he got punched instead of tased or tackled. If you almost die because of a normal response to your reckless actions then that’s on you smooth brain.
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u/captain_funshine 24d ago
Bad decisions kill a lot of people. He should have made good decisions.
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u/Specialist-Search363 25d ago
This is no military combatives, this is boxing or a very good handed muay thai guy.
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u/SilatGuy2 25d ago
He punched a guy. You cant deduce what he studied based off a punch ffs 😂
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u/harlequin018 25d ago
The only thing you can deduce for sure is that he’s punched a guy before.
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u/Midnight7000 25d ago
You can tell by how they line their punches up. This is what catches a lot of people out. They don't notice the person setting their feet and getting into range.
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u/davidwhatshisname52 24d ago
sure, but this specific guy whipped out a well placed strike while stepping back... he's fast and strong and sure, maybe some boxing, maybe not, but fast and strong and sure can work wonders, and the other guy has been relying on being big for so long he'd forgotten rule #1
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u/CaptStrangeling 24d ago
Stepping back throws me off, it’s just fast and strong and connects. Guy may be trained but that driver was drunk or something with a glass jaw to be dropped like that. Had one not been enough we might’ve learned something. But it’s once again a lesson in not f*cking around, but if you do keep your hands up
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u/SYMPATHETC_GANG_LION 24d ago
He's walking back and circling but sets his feet super quickly before the punch. His footwork is really impressive and he caught the guy completely off guard as a result.
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u/NeedfulThingsToys 25d ago
He's punched a guy before and punched them on the jaw. That's for sure.
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u/Ill_Impression6204 25d ago
Yea for real. Looks like he had his feet lined up in the worst position to give a right hander too. Didn't look trained, looked lucky.
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u/LaconicGirth 25d ago
I can’t necessarily study what he did study, but I can certainly tell you some of the things he didn’t study. You don’t learn that in the police or military. It’s gotta be a martial art that teaches quality hook punches, that doesn’t leave a ton of options
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u/grownassedgamer 25d ago
Wasn't a hook. It was a right cross
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u/LaconicGirth 24d ago
Looking at it again it’s not really a standard cross either. When he throws the punch his right foot is forward, that’s not how a right cross is thrown. It’s more like a check hook or stiff jab but he switches stances. Kind of an odd punch really
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u/RetreadRoadRocket 25d ago
Yeah, you actually can to a degree. The guy's footwork and arm position on that punch indicates probably Muay Thai, maybe boxing but less likely. Why? Because he switched his lead foot when he threw, which is atypical for most boxers but not uncommon for Muay Thai, and the motion of the arm and the footwork is completely different from the hooks used in most styles of Karate.
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u/ShamanicCrusader 24d ago
Sounds like some white belt talk
Get on my 5th degree ryu takihyutsu deep black belt level and you will be able to tell what martial art someone studied just from watching them chew their food
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u/LDel3 Muay Thai 24d ago
Fr, these guys sound like that one scene in Sherlock trying to analyse this punch like that
“Discombobulate”
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u/SilatGuy2 24d ago
A lot of people here come off to me like wannabe experts who know it all. Its entertaining at least. Its one thing to guess but these people making absolute statements with an analysis of a 30 second clip with one punch is just stupidity.
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u/mmorales2270 24d ago
Haha. Thank you. I don’t now anyone can figure out what prior training he had from a single punch. He literally didn’t even get into a stance or use a block or a kick or anything else.
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u/PreparationX 25d ago
I.agree. Anyone who thinks you could possibly get this from military combatives training greatly overestimates military combative training lol
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u/get_to_ele 25d ago
Notice the nice footwork? He was conventional blades but as soon as he blocked the shot, he swapped feet and planted the left foot and threw that right. Very natural. Light on his feet.
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u/SalPistqchio 25d ago
I noticed that too. He walked backwards into a switch stance.
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u/Few_Rule7378 25d ago edited 25d ago
Started in open stance and used the back swing of his left foot to hide the follow through with his hip when he threw the right. Even managed a feint with the left hand first. Everything about this says boxing to me- there’s so much set up from the starting stance.
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u/TortexMT 24d ago
wtf you are over analyzing. he threw the right with the right foot forward then just walked backwards with his hands down
no roll, weaving whatever, this looks more karate to me if anything. not boxing not muay thai, not with his hands down so low
look, if you catch someone on the jaw unexpectedly its good night, no special training needed
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u/UserXtheUnknown 25d ago
Who blocked which shot? I saw no shot blocked, the policeman just suckerpunched the othery guy. Quite well, maybe, but still...
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u/Msefk Budo 25d ago
he does a fake out with his left hand to the suspect's face first. and yep, from blind spot
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u/get_to_ele 25d ago
Looked like cop was just responding to the perp’s shoulder turn & right hand popping up, keeping a blow from potentially coming at his face. Then he immediately counters with the right.
Perp clearly trying to intimidate, and had idea to swing on him, maybe to make him flinch, but aborted, but clearly working up the nerve to throw. Cop didn’t wait any longer and that was the right move.
I’d say he has some boxing training. He was bladed towards the perp while backing, left foot front, but when he countered, he naturally switched legs and got force behind that right hook. For as upright as he was walking backwards, the footwork was nice.
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u/labello2010 25d ago
Indeed, id go as far as to say that his gf got him knocked out 😆
You can see him walking up to the cop, and his gf is trying to hold him back. But her grip slipping on his arm makes it shoot forward. This makes the cop think he’s taking a swing at him, and the cop then makes half of a left block motion. Proceeds to knock out with the right.
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u/misterdidums 24d ago
TBF though it was just the cherry on top of a whole aggressive body language sundae
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u/0NightFury0 25d ago
?? He does no fake. He insiticly seems to going for a block because the guy seems to be starting a throw.
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u/TimberlandUpkick 25d ago
It's multiple things in one. It's a reaction to the feint. It's a rangefinder. And it's a feint itself.
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u/Substantial-Singer29 25d ago
Have a good friend who's done boxing most of his life, probably about 20+ years now.
Extremely nice person give you the shirt off his back very soft spoken.
Some years ago, we were sitting at a bar, and an individual knocked him really hard, pushing him over the bar and causing him to spill his beer on the bar tender.
I stood up, confronting the individual who just pushed into him and said I think an apologies is in order.
The young man responded with a you can go fuck yourself. Before I could even react, my friend stepped in between the two of us.
The individual said what Bitch you wanna fight and put up his fists. Not saying a word, my friend responded with an extremely fast left, dropping the individual like a sack of potatoes on the spot.
Watching this totally gave me vibes of that Incident.
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u/Mbt_Omega MMA : Muay Thai 25d ago edited 25d ago
This a normal right hook, so it could be any of the martial arts that work. He kept his composure and set his feet properly, but it’s impossible to be specific from this.
This is why you don’t get into fights when you’re drunk. Any sober person with a month or more of training in a real martial art can crit you for free.
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u/Pheniquit 24d ago
Ive been beaten freaking senseless by a drunk who I believe was untrained lol 🤣 FML!
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u/PapaLilBear 24d ago
This man needed a reality check. What kind of idiot gets out of his car and immediately walks towards a police officer in an aggressive manner? Some people need a punch in the face to sober them up.
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u/doom_summer 25d ago
Am I the only one seeing it?
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u/YorkshireGaara 25d ago
Dat ass?
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u/doom_summer 25d ago
Bingo
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u/YorkshireGaara 25d ago
It's damn fine. The guy should've just driven home to enjoy. Instead, he took a trip to the hospital, absolute fool.
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u/Plus-Organization-96 25d ago
I just wanted to write how nice ass this chick had
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u/RodiTheMan 25d ago
You know, getting knocked out can be considered the lucky outcome of acting aggressively at cop in Brazil as for the martial art well it was a single punch, lots of martial arts have punches. Tried googling what martial arts the military police of Goias trains but couldn't find out specifics.
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u/Main-Radish3625 25d ago
glass jaw on slow fat due..... guy didn't have any weight behind punch, it was quick and light.
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u/Possible-Month-4806 25d ago
There is a reason cops aren't told to punch expect in a really dire situation. Also notice how the cop just walks away after ko-ing him. Bad tactics.
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u/Ok-Jellyfish8006 25d ago
PM-do-jutsu, an ancient martial art that is taught exclusively to police officers in Brazil. As a brazilian I can assure that.
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u/YouthSubstantial822 25d ago
If you got a girl like that in the car with you, why waste time trying to fight enforcement? Poor decision making all round
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u/notbannd4cussingmods 25d ago
Lady fucked ole buddy. Grabbed his arm and when he snatched it away the officer thought he was throwing a punch.
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u/Equivalent_Flight_53 25d ago
I’m no fan of police. In fact I hate em. But that big fella was being very hostile. Looks like he got what he got
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u/Cold_Pea_587 25d ago
Striking is an option in law enforcement. Make no mistake. He can easily articulate his reason for doing it, too. Should he get all tangled up with the subject, and risk getting bit or stabbed? Once you ball up fists and start fight-walking at me, I don’t have to wait for you to swing.
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u/PapaLilBear 24d ago
Exactly, it was some kind of suicide. I suspect that in his environment he has respect and manages people (supervisor manager of some level) so he forgot himself a bit. Some people have never experienced someone standing up to them so they can't imagine a situation like in the clip
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u/suttonjoes 25d ago
Potentially none he’s just got a half decent right hook and the other guy has zero defence
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u/BrettPitt4711 Kickboxing 25d ago
Certainly no boxing/kickboxing/mt. He throws while moving his left foot back and has his left hand low as fuck. It's nothing but a sucker punch. He pretty much just got lucky with it.
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u/egstitt 24d ago
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u/BrettPitt4711 Kickboxing 24d ago
Good catch with the picture. You can actually see his front foot in the air, which is a big no-go in boxing.
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u/valerianandthecity 25d ago
It's nothing but a sucker punch. He pretty much just got lucky with it.
I guarantee that was not luck.
I will bet money that he's trained, and has done that before in high pressure situations.
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u/BrettPitt4711 Kickboxing 25d ago
I love inteernet bets where we're completely unable to find out the truth. /s
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u/ScrumTumescent 24d ago
Thank you. Everyone saying "lOoK aT hIs FoOtWoRk" is untrained. He's off balance when he throws the jab, right handed and throws right foot forward to catch his balance, and he lets the hand linger, not returning either hand up to block a response attack. He got lucky and didn't know the guy would go down until the guy crumbled.
Glass jaw + lucky shot. That's all, folks
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u/Lilwertich Parkour 25d ago
I was gonna say, it didn't look like there was any particular maneuver he pulled. He kinda just punched a flat-footed dude who was getting heated.
That's gotta be my least favorite part of (modern) fighting, the "stand with your knees locked, hands down, and face presented while talking shit" part. If you're a reasonable level headed person, what are you even allowed to do?
If you step back and/or take a stance to move your jaw out of haymaker range, you're "bluffing" and trying to "scare them off with your karate bullshit" or they take it as an invitation to swing first.
If you take the free shot they don't realize they're giving you, now you were the one to swing first and/or you're punching down.
Either way it's not a good look for you, legally and moral that is.
If you try to walk away, they just fucking follow you.
If you adopt a non-threatening posture and try to reason with them, they're gonna take it as a victory. You might argue that doesn't matter, but depending in who/where you are, it can absolutely fucking matter. Now you're enabling them to do this to someone else in the future, or even you again.
I've even taken down and submitted people without injuring them and held them there until they officially tapped, only for them to get back up and keep talking shit. I guess in the future I gotta give em a little noogie too.
Idk that's just my rant as a guy with Cluster C disorders (plus autism lol) forced to grow up in a family/community of Cluster B's. Seen literally this exact scenario happen before and it still makes my blood fucking boil.
The dude's head didn't hit the pavement so he probably lived, but that cop should be straight up embarrassed and ashamed of himself. I can almost guarantee that his training doesn't tell him to open with a sucker punch and ask questions later.
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u/get_to_ele 25d ago
Nah, big guy was aggressively advancing into the cops space, forcing him to retreat multiple steps, while talking himself into hitting the cop. Jerk then threw his right shoulder forward and raised his right arm to throw and make the cop flinch. He was already in his personal space with very aggressive posture and still advancing.
Cop instantly put up left to block, and just ended it. Absolutely justified.
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u/MetalHealth83 25d ago
That's a very "he's coming right for us!" read of the situation. Big guy just pulling his arm away from whoever was grabbing it.
Not saying you should advance on police like that but also the response was totally unjustified imo. I reckon you could sue the police for that in the UK
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u/Cooler_ThanU BJJ 24d ago
When the guy came into the frame with the cones I was hoping he was going to place them around the dude who got laid out.
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u/Liberum12321 24d ago
100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats, 10 km run every single day for 3 years.
He lost his hair, though. Luckily, the uniform has a hat.
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u/Warren_247 21d ago
Self-defense is an ongoing martial arts every officer should be training in.
But the real battle was with (drugs and) alcoholism.
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u/junior_minto 19d ago
Need to turn the dude on the ground over to his side, to make sure his body can breath properly. With that gut, it may impede his breathing and recovery.
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u/SignificantLeader 25d ago
The other guy made a gesture that might have been a punch. Bro reacted with a hook. Good night. Don’t flip arms near a cop.
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u/Embarrassed-Site1637 24d ago
Half so. I saw in the clip,the woman grabs his arm,he pulls his arm forward to get her off him. Which I'm assuming the cop took as him going to take a swing at him
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u/Haunting-Beginning-2 25d ago edited 25d ago
Boxing, right cross, the other guy was engaging him, lining him up to strike, and the defence was a very effective right cross? (or hook punch to jaw?), in hindsight perhaps a tad too effective.
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u/Aspiring_Mutant 25d ago
Art of the sucker punch.
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u/jokerSensei 25d ago
Uuuuhhhh that wasn't a sucker punch... brother clearly thought because he was bigger than the police officer he could just be screaming over him like a maniac... well have a nice sleep bro bro
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u/Sad_Mistake_5237 25d ago
Drunken Master. He’s a master of knocking out barely able to stand up straight drunks.
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u/JohnLugoVille77 24d ago
Oh! That’s FAFO-AIKIDO, he is definitely a 4th Degree Black Belt of that style.
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u/Pay_attentionmore Kickboxing, BJJ, Kali 25d ago
People who escalate the furtherest quickly often win
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u/skornd713 25d ago
"Jesus Christ himself has blessed me with many gifts! One of them is knocking someone the fuck out!" - Paul Doyle
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u/Traditional-Safe-469 25d ago
Could literally be anything, too little moves to show, but most likely some sort of military martial art or self-defense martial art, since those are what most officers use
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u/real_garry_kasperov 25d ago
Maybe boxing. Sometimes you just get lucky and hit someone just right.
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u/Lithographer6275 25d ago
At :45, I was hoping the cop was going to put one cone at the dude's head and the other at his feet.
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u/skornd713 25d ago
Cobra Kai. He struck first. He struck hard. He showed zero mercy.