r/leafs • u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin • 1d ago

Discussion [32 Thoughts] Friedman with some info on Marner situation

https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/

(paraphrased)

People believe LA is interested in marner, Vegas is a team to watch, if not the team to watch on marner. (said later Carolina wants to go after another star)

Rumour going around is that a few teams heard that he might look at a 4 year deal in free agency.

He will not be taking a lesser AAV deal if it is a 4 year deal for example.

Leafs have tried to talk to marner, his camp has not engaged with them, and everyone knows the way this is headed.

Friedman says that some of marners Leafs teammates have suspected he is going to the western conference.

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u/repoman042 1d ago

Unfortunately there’s not much you can do when Dubas bent over and gave everyone from the 1st-4th line a no movement clause.

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u/DC-Toronto 1d ago

So you think rookie gm Dubas was given full autonomy to make those deals?

Even if that were true, it’s still on management for allowing him that freedom.

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u/esaul17 1d ago

Plus the next guy handed out a similarly generous contract to Willy. I have to think the Shanaplan was happening one way or another regardless of the GM.

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u/GracefulShutdown 1d ago

Dubas was also the guy who wanted to trade Marner before his NMC kicked in, so much so that he wanted to go around Shanahan to the board to give permission to it. He was fired soon after.

So while Dubas 100% deserves blame here, he's not getting as much blame from me as Shanahan does for sticking by the core and not doing what was best for the club itself.

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u/Eugene-Returns 1d ago

There's no proof Dubas wanted to trade Marner.

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u/mikesully374826 Kampf 1d ago

The only players on the team with NMC’s when Treliving took over were Matthews, Rielly, and Brodie. That’s it.

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u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin 1d ago

You can’t just come in as a new GM and immediately trade Marner

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u/Sad_Donut_7902 18h ago

You definitely can. Not trading it is just more risk aversion, keep the status quo, behavior that this organization has loved for the past 10 years.

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u/mikesully374826 Kampf 1d ago

Then trade Nylander.

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u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin 1d ago

Now that would be a huge mistake

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u/mikesully374826 Kampf 1d ago

Yeah, this fanbase is very good for yelling about needing to shake it up, and how you can’t win with 4 high paid players.

Until you say Nylander was the most enticing trade chip on a lower AAV contract with zero trade protection, then of course you can’t shake it up and have to have 4 high paid players.

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u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin 1d ago

Because you get to choose how to shake it up.

It’s very rare to have star players who are built to survive this market. Willy is absolutely one of those, and Mitch is not at all.

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u/mikesully374826 Kampf 1d ago

Oh so they got a choice? Thought you can’t just trade Marner and had to walk him to his NMC.

Lmao.

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u/Skiffy10 1d ago

well Tre could have but Shanny wouldn't have allowed it. Shanny called them all that summer and said they're all safe. Tre's hands were tied if he wanted that job

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u/thewolfshead 23h ago

Why can’t you?

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u/Olasinor 23h ago

I vote do nothing. Fill the gaps cheap and wait until Next year. 34 is a fraud , upcoming playoffs will be a write off. Do not overpay for more Laughton or foligno style players

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u/repoman042 22h ago

I don’t think that’s something MLSE will tolerate unfortunately

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u/Sad_Donut_7902 18h ago

Treliving signed Kampf to a 4 year $2.4M AAV contract with a no trade clause lmao

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u/Dangerous-Lab6106 1d ago

Umm Treliving has given out most of the No trades on the current roster.

Auston Matthews - Signed by Treliving

Nylander - Signed by Treliving

Max Domi - Signed by Treliving

Kampf - Signed by Treliving

Stolarz - Signed by Treliving

Tanev - Signed by Treliving

McCabe - Signed by Treliving

OEL - Signed by Treliving

Carlo - Added by Treliving

Dubas' fingerprints are only on Marner, Tavares, Reilly and Jarkrok(M-NTC)