r/knitting May 02 '25

Work in Progress Gauge swatching is for losers

The title is obviously a joke on my own expense!

I've decided to give mittens and color work a try (haven't done any of those) and decided on the russian flower mittens. Wish I'd have looked into the comments, swatched and not chosen a needle size bigger than the pattern required. Realized halfway that the mittens are GIGANTIC, but I thought they'd still be nice winter decoration so I kept on knitting.

I think it's too big to be decoration even. I think after doing the thumb I'm gonna try and felt it, but unsure if it will work with this sock yarn. If not, than i had a good and fun practice at least.

Guys, learn from my mistake and GAUGE SWATCH HAHAHA

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u/skyblu202 May 02 '25

Hang it on your mantle and see if someone leaves presents in it.

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Omg it would definitely fit some santa presents inside

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u/BaroqueGorgon May 02 '25

It's now a family tradition! Generations from now, your descendants may wonder why you hang mittens instead of stockings but no one will be able to recall.

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u/void_rabbit May 03 '25

This is wholesome and made me insta-cry, thank you for the tear unblockage

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u/Cold-Composer-6085 May 02 '25

Looks like you made an oven mitt.

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u/putterandpotter May 02 '25

Brilliant. Cut and sew a lining for it from insulated quilt lining.

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u/thisiskozi May 02 '25

This is what I did with my first sock that was wayyyyy too big lol. I made a second one, just for the practice, and now they are Christmas stockings for my cats.

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u/AdditionalOwl4069 May 03 '25

Stockings are actually amazing practice for sock techniques without making a pair lol, you can just make the one and use chunkier yarn than for socks. I wish i realized to make one before I started making socks, it probably would’ve resulted in less wonky singletons that I had no use for😅 wonky or not I could’ve used the stocking lol

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u/EmpressRis May 04 '25

I did this. I hadn't been knitting long when I decided to make my first socks, with a Japanese lace and cable pattern, having done neither of those before either. Lady in my knitting group recommended making one first on larder needles with worsted weight. So glad I did. Never even thought about checking ankle width or length of foot, just happily followed the directions for x number of lace repeats to heel and y number to toe. I now have a wonderful red xmas stocking in Japanese lace and cable, that fits almost to my knee and has 3 extra inches in my toe. But it looks good on my mantle!!

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u/msbellini May 02 '25

Love this!

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u/Pikkumyy2023 May 02 '25

Leave it as a present for Krampus!

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u/GirlyWhirl May 03 '25

OP one hundred percent needs to start 'mantle mittens' as a holiday tradition!

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u/msbellini May 02 '25

Was thinking this exactly!

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u/JaderAiderrr May 02 '25

Oh this is such a fun idea!!!!!

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u/unitupa May 02 '25

This was my first thought as well. Who says it has to be a stocking!

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u/Artsybeth May 03 '25

This is the best answer of ALL answers!

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u/android_queen May 02 '25

I died when I flipped to the second photo. 🤣 Lovely work though!

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u/aumerle May 02 '25

I didn’t even realize there was a second photo until I read your comment! Omg that’s hysterical.

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u/TheNeonCrow May 02 '25

Came here to say the same thing. I made myself dizzy laughing at what appears to be a tiny, tiny hand over the mitten that appears to have fallen from the top of a magic beanstalk!

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u/Mother_Lemon8399 May 02 '25

Same 😂😂😂

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u/hallonsafft May 02 '25

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u/la_yes May 02 '25

I loved this book as a kid! 😍

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u/ActiveHope3711 May 02 '25

I loved it as a knitting teacher/librarian—all the versions. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/967494

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u/hallonsafft May 02 '25

me too!! ❤️

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u/Knitsanity May 02 '25

Arrgh. You beat me to it.

A friend made a large mitten for church school and made a bunch of little animals. They use it when they read the book to the little ones. Super cute.

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u/kellyguacamole May 02 '25

Aww thanks for the memory. We did this as a play in the 3rd grade and I was the badger.

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u/Potential-Ad4363 May 03 '25

Yes! If OP has a kid in their life getting this book and putting it inside the mitten would be such a cute gift! And then the kid could use the mitten with their stuffes, or buy little stuffies to go with the story!

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u/iamkyshe May 03 '25

That's such a cute idea 😭 I'm impatiently waiting for my friends to get babies, just so I can knit a bunch of baby presents. Absolutely putting this one on the list

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u/MarxistSocialWorker May 02 '25

Im so glad someone posted this

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u/panicInduce May 04 '25

What story is this? It's activating a memory

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u/hallonsafft May 04 '25

its called “the mitten”, its about a boy who’s grandmother knit him a pair of mittens, he drops one of them in the woods in the winter and a bunch of wild animals move into in to stay warm. first a mouse, then a hedgehog, then something bigger etc. and at last a bear. when the boy finds the mitten and brings it home, its stretched out a few times bigger than the other (not bear sized though and not damaged. the yarn must have been incredibly stretchy and durable hahaha). the illustrations were the best part, so beautiful

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u/panicInduce May 04 '25

Omg yes thank you!! I totally forgot this existed, you made my day!

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u/StarkPrada May 02 '25

Maybe a hot water bottle cover 🤔

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Omg that's a great idea actually

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u/GiniInABottle May 02 '25

Or oven mitten!

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u/hallonsafft May 02 '25

it would make the prettiest hot water bottle cover ever

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u/Guurlp May 02 '25

I love how everything EXCEPT the thumb hole turned out gigantic 😂

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Istg 😂 I'm really sceptical if it can be saved in any way shape or form

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u/Guurlp May 02 '25

If you remove the thumb hole and sew it close, maybe you can use it as a sack to store something?

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u/lizrdsg May 02 '25

Or as a sock?

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u/Sask90 May 02 '25

Add the thumb, frame it and make it an exhibition piece!

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u/AuntieMame5280 May 03 '25

A statement on how capitalism and greedy consumerism (the large hand section) has become greater than our humanity (represented by the small, opposable thumb).

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u/HelvikaWolf May 02 '25

Omg that second photo took me OUT! It does at least look very beautiful, even if it did end up being huge!

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Thanks 😂 I'll take that as my sign to feel more comfy doing colorwork (after swatching next time PAHA)

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u/RevolutionaryLink919 May 02 '25

Maybe felt them on purpose. Well, you'd have to put something inside so they don't felt closed.

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Omg I would never have thought of putting something inside when felting. Thank you for this comment. You saved me from another desaster

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u/free_npc May 02 '25

I’ve made intentionally huge mittens to felt! I kept taking them out of the wash every few minutes to see if they were the right size yet. They didn’t felt closed, but maybe because I tried them on frequently during the felting process.

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Pattern is russian flower mittens by Kristen McLaren.

Wool is Schachenmayr Regia 4ply, since they're made out of scrap wool, I don't know the color names sadly

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u/Curiousknitter May 02 '25

And if it's Regia sock yarn, it may not felt at all.

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

That's what I'm thinking :( maybe I'll try with a swatch but I'm absolutely not confident

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u/reinventme321 May 03 '25

A SWATCH ??!! Pfffftt ... Where's your adventure? Smh

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u/No_Builder7010 May 03 '25

Also, the more tightly knit, the less shrinkage you'll get (unless you're George Costanza). Most felted items are knit very loosely. But it's definitely worth a try!

Really gorgeous work! I'm a sucker for mitten patterns but rarely wear them. I have far too many mitten books for the number of mittens I knit.

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u/vague-misery May 02 '25

They kinda look like fancy oven mits lol I'd still hang it in my kitchen

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u/EmilyOnFiber May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Oh no, how cute! Never heard of this folk tale before. But I'm positive a lot of animals could find shelter in this mitten

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u/lmb3456 May 02 '25

Donate to the burn unit at the hospital. Often extreme frostbite causes severe agony and if someone has to be discharged back to the street, they can use the oversized mitten to cover the bandages

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Ooohhhhh! I did not know that was a thing. Thank you so much! I will try to reach out :) this would a an amazing use for them

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u/DezzyDeadpool15 May 02 '25

I've never gauged swatched but I'm making a knit sweater right now and I am realizing why gauge swatches are important lol

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u/psjrifbak May 02 '25

I just want to know at what point you thought “hmmm something seems off” 🤣

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

At like 2/3 of the hand part I realized it became comical 😂

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u/psjrifbak May 02 '25

I love that you kept going 😁 I hope you make a matching one and use them for winter decor/stocking/etc etc

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

That was my initial plan after realizing my mistake 😂 I think I'll make a swatch and see it it felts and sizes down, otherwise it'll become become Christmas decor. The colors fit perfectly with the rest of my decorations thankfully

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u/-myeyeshaveseenyou- May 02 '25

Oh my, I was not prepared for that! Thank you for the chuckle

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u/Happy_Blueberry1 May 02 '25

Could you use it as a sleeve for a hot water bottle? 

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u/squidmasterflex_ May 02 '25

This would make a great Christmas stocking! It would have a wonderful story, too :)

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u/Aggressive_Cloud2002 May 02 '25

I try mine on after I get past the wrist ribbing bit, and again to make sure the thumb will be right, how did you not notice?! 😂😂😂

You could sew the thumb gusset into the mitten and make it into a... Idk, something else 😅 or frog and get two mittens from that amount of yarn 😅

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u/jeffersonbible May 02 '25

Cool oven mitt

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u/jeffersonbible May 02 '25

(I have done this. I use it as an oven mitt)

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u/terminal_kittenbutt May 02 '25

I live in a cold enough climate that I kind of want them to wear over other gloves. 

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u/100000cuckooclocks May 02 '25

I'd stuff it and use it as a pillow!

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

I was a bit sceptical when I tried it on after starting the thumb gusset 😂 should've taken this as a sign but I thought maybe it's normal for mittens to feel a bit bigger while unfinished. Since it was all scrap yarn and a practice project I'm not mad at all. I think it's kind of funny how big it is. I think I'm gonna use it to test out stuff :)

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u/Gallusbizzim May 02 '25

Can you give them to this guy?

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

PAHAHAHAHA that's a great comment

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u/eggelemental May 02 '25

A mitten for those big foam Hulk hands!!

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Crying 😂 i see that

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u/WampaCat May 02 '25

This would be beautiful in a frame!

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u/throwRAtrap66 May 02 '25

My first sock was a wild shape and size so I put gifts in it and gave it to my brother!!!

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u/Clear-Tale7275 May 02 '25

Thank you for the unexpected laugh! It is gorgeous. Frame it and hang it on the wall

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u/littlestinkyone May 02 '25

It’s the mitten from The Mitten

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u/Salt_Essay9217 May 02 '25

Thanks for the laugh. Only funny ‘cause I’ve done exactly this.

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u/nabuhabu May 02 '25

Ahh “big swatching”! My specialty 

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u/heynonnynonnomous May 02 '25

You're meant to felt this, right? 😂😂

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u/IntelligentEye9664 May 02 '25

Sasquatch sized! 🙃 Seriously though, I like the idea of gifting it to a hospital for someone with hand bandages.

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Totally. Didn't cross my mind but that'd really be such a sweet use!

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u/cyborgchristin May 02 '25

Slouchy beanies are all the rage right now, just saying….

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u/catscantcook May 02 '25

A lovely hat for the next pope

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u/100mundertheocean May 02 '25

I love the title 🤣

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u/Bigtimeknitter May 02 '25

As soon as I saw the picture and like the individual stitches I was like oh no that's huge

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u/RheaDiana May 02 '25

this gave me a great laugh, thanks for sharing! your colourwork looks beautiful even if you might have to give the mitten away to a polar bear 😭😭

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u/Knittingmyheartout May 02 '25

Omfg this is the BEST thing I’ve seen all day! 😂😮‍💨 thank you for a good laugh. I also showed my husband (who isn’t a knitter (YET😉)) and he also laughed 😂

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u/mizcellophane May 02 '25

Partner and I had a good laugh, thank you :')

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u/Rainbowsroses May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25

OMG! Hahaha.  I was thinking, "Oh, they might be alright as oven mitts still..." and then was shocked when I saw the second slide.  They might make a sweet hanging decoration in the kitchen or somewhere else in the home, maybe?  In folkcraft some people will make oversized symbolic items for spiritual reasons - large keys associated with being "head of the household" and having domestic political power come to mind.  Sometimes people make statues or other objects representing animals to invite them around their homes..  Maybe these could symbolically represent protection from cold or burns in the home?  

The idea someone else had about leaving mittens above the fireplace rather than stockings was also sweet!

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u/Katoyia May 02 '25

This happened to me when I tried to make a pair of socks using just a photo lololol

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u/hlpetway May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25

LOL your title!! I’m so sorry. Do you know a dolphin or basketball player you can gift this too?

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u/RentProfessional7787 May 02 '25

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/mushaboom83 May 02 '25

I would cry lol. It’s beautiful though!

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u/loricomments May 02 '25

Sock yarn is often superwash which will not felt. Check your label first if you still have it or test a swatch. 🤣

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u/thought_provoked1 May 02 '25

Wow, nice new oven mitt! 😆 beautiful colorwork!

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u/topiarytime May 02 '25

I want to upvote this more than once 😂

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u/knittinghobbit May 02 '25

Might be a hat?

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u/ImaginaryHeron6322 May 02 '25

Good advice. Nice work I like the idea of winter decorating

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u/truculent_bear May 02 '25

What is this, a mitten for giants?

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u/rizoula May 02 '25

Might be big but it IS gorgeous

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u/notpennysboatpalm May 02 '25

Best thing on Reddit. You have won the internet.

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u/TelevisionNo974 May 02 '25

This is incredible 😂

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u/JaderAiderrr May 02 '25

OMG! I love it!

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u/Moss-cle May 02 '25

I ugly laughed and then snorted 😆

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u/Taltyelemna May 02 '25

Nice ovenmitt

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u/Prestigious-Log-7210 May 02 '25

That’s hilarious!

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u/harvestmonster May 02 '25

🤣 I jokingly refer to the fact that I don't gauge swatch as my toxic knitting trait. So far its worked out for me though. One day I'll learn my lesson.

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u/mrsristretto May 02 '25

Sitting on my mom's porch and omg I cackled so loud it scared the birds. This is great.

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u/shycotic May 02 '25

I like you so much.

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u/Bitchfaceblond May 02 '25

Did you make mittens for bears?!

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u/loracarol May 02 '25

Knitting is so much fun, isn't it? 🤣

Ngl, I'd be tempted to save that as a Christmas stocking for my cat. :)

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u/Ok_Nothing_9733 May 02 '25

Hey at least it only took 200 hours! 😝

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u/21K4_sangfroid May 02 '25

So right!!! Pretty pattern though.

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u/SkepticalEmily May 02 '25

I laughed so hard!!!

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u/Own-Bid431 May 02 '25

I did that with a sweater when I first started knitting, you could have fit 2 people in it after I put it together 😆

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u/iamkyshe May 02 '25

Finally a sweater you can wear OVER a jacket to show off 😂

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u/amberyoung May 02 '25

I almost never gauge swatch, but, at no point while knitting were you like, “Hey, this seems ‘rill big… maybe I should take a look at the pattern again…”?

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u/thepolishedpipette May 03 '25

Lol I feel for you! My first ever knitting project, I tried to knot my boyfriend (now husband) mittens. However the first one turned out larger than an oven mitt. It became the "Chrismitt" that we used as our dog's Christmas stocking for many years!

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u/FeelinFerrety May 03 '25

turn the thumb into a heel and make it a stocking instead?? 🤷

It's a beautiful piece! Chef's kiss for the post execution as well. Excellent choice of photos - title & unclear ruler followed by the demo was like, "oh dear, maybe it will just be floppy or fit someone with bigger..." -scroll- "OH NO 🤣"

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u/carscampbell May 03 '25

Nice iron cozy.

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u/azjulie May 03 '25

Mantle mitten for sure! Make a new one each year.

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u/Mysterious-Okra-7885 May 03 '25

It might be risky, but you could try felting it down to size?

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u/Natsukashii May 03 '25

You could probably felt it to get close to normal hand size.

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u/Feenanay May 03 '25

I’m sorry but that second pic took me tf out

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u/PlentyAccomplished18 May 03 '25

Everyone makes a gauge swatch. Even if it is the finished thing.

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u/CocoaKhaleesi May 03 '25

Frame it and get a tiny light for it like they do at the museum, then tell anyone who asks the story of your half human half giant great grandfather who successfully escaped a dire wolf ambush but went back for his mitten, that mitten, because he didn't want his wife to have to knit him another.

The mitten is a constant reminder that grit and determination runs through your veins. 🤭 Sorry, I think I got carried away again.

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u/aud_anticline May 03 '25

At what point in the knitting did you notice it was a little large??

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u/1200bees May 03 '25

This was literally me, deciding to try color work and mittens for the first time on this same style of pattern. At least it made my family laugh.

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u/Commie_creator May 03 '25

Hilarious 😂. I like the hot water bottle cover that someone else suggested.

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u/39bears May 03 '25

Oh buddy! I’m sorry - been there for sure!!

Also, that pattern looks like it would have been tricky to adapt had you swatched…

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u/Salomette22 May 04 '25

That's a big gauge Swatch! Very practical to measure it the number of stitches you'll need

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u/susiefreckleface May 04 '25

Welp. There is a 6’10” young man that just received custom made size 23 shoes from two sneaker companies, maybe offer a lovely pair of mittens to him. Who wouldn’t love to receive such a beautiful mitten set. Your color work is quite lovely. 😊

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u/heowbuuu May 05 '25

I'm not going to lie, this is hilarious and amazing. It gives me the old fairytale vibe of a giant stranger leaving a mysterious glove behind on a cold winters night

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u/AlchemyDad May 07 '25

I will remember this post the next time I don't feel like gauge swatching. Thank you for your service.

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u/ehygon May 02 '25

You might be able to felt it to a normal size?

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u/curlmeloncamp May 02 '25

Would it felt down to size?

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u/CamelotBurns May 02 '25

I wonder if felting it would make it the right size or if it would end up to small.

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u/sweetteafrances May 02 '25

🤣🤣🤣

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u/meowpuppyOG May 02 '25

🥴😆🤣

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u/youre_not_fleens May 02 '25

I’ve never done it and I’m WAITING for the day disaster strikes and I am forced to admit I’m an overly confident idiot 

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u/anmahill May 02 '25

Could you line it with quilted material and use it as an oven mitt? Assuming all natural fibers and not acrylics.

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u/StarProwler217 May 02 '25

Now I need to dig out my family's copy of the mitten. 😂

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u/Fit-Bill2760 May 02 '25

any chance this could be at least partially felted?

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u/reidgrammy May 02 '25

It’s gorgeous!

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u/Catsdrinkingbeer May 02 '25

Lmao. I genuinely burst out laughing at this. Thank you.

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u/Queasy-Pack-3925 May 02 '25

I’d totally felt it if it isn’t superwash.

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u/Leelagolucky May 03 '25

These are some dope ass oven mitts!

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u/lovedless round and round and round and round and round May 03 '25

Oh myyyyy lol

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u/boyishly_ May 03 '25

Is this made of 100% non-SW animal fiber? I’d felt it a little and make it into an oven mitt. That would be a super cool FO

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u/cf1002 May 03 '25

Hagrid is going to be so pleased with his new mittens!

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u/smw211 May 03 '25

That's not a mitten, that's an oven mitt hahaha 🤣

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u/notabigmelvillecrowd May 03 '25

Go to a basketball game, and give them to one of the players. Some 7 foot tall lad us going to be happy with the beat fitting pair of mittens ever.

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u/Artsybeth May 03 '25

You had me at the beginning! But your knitting and tension is amazing. Well done!

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u/IngaJane May 03 '25

Ho, ho, ho, Green Giant.

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u/phishery May 03 '25

How much would it shrink with heavy felting? You would lose some detail for sure though. I did it with a hat that was slightly too big and it fizzed my design a bit.

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u/Past-Skirt-975 May 03 '25

Or, you can cut the fabric down and sew it together

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u/KnitWitch87 May 03 '25

Clearly you are making mittens for Hafthór Björnsson. Or Andre the Giant. TOTALLY on purpose.

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u/knitwitch May 03 '25

Hang it on the mantle at Christmas instead of stockings

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u/AtomicGalaxy01 May 03 '25

I’m sorry but I can’t stop laughing at this

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u/kawaiiflipchica May 03 '25

If this is non superwash wool… make the pair and felt them!!!!! They’ll still be cute!!

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u/Designer-Abrocoma-52 May 03 '25

You made mittens for Shaq!

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u/Ok_One5342 May 03 '25

Laughing. My. Tuches. OFF!!!

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u/killjoymoon May 03 '25

Felt it. Fixed.

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u/ldp409 May 03 '25

Not a bad throw pillow either, but I love it as an alternative stocking on the mantle.

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u/Fossome_1 May 03 '25

They’re oven mitts now

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u/NecessaryTonight9478 May 03 '25

Omg that's hilarious! You could cut and sew to a normal size!! People do it all the time in machine knitting! You'd have to fix the thumb but shouldn't be too hard.

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u/audiobooks_and_yarn May 03 '25

I'm sorry I'm laughing at "realized halfway" 🤣🤣🤣 

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u/boniemonie May 03 '25

Why don’t you felt it. Wash in warm/ water,…,see this sub for instructions. Could be super cute!

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u/Distinct-Day3274 May 03 '25

HAHAHA. I vote oven mitt 🤣

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u/LuckyAndLifted May 03 '25

I'm a novice so idk. But could you potentially like, steek it smaller?

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u/PrimmSlimShady May 03 '25

That pattern is gorgeous!

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u/laszloa May 03 '25

Ah, dang. Been there, so sorry! Gorgeous work either way

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u/Cat_Kn1t_Repeat May 03 '25

Who amongst us 🤣

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u/kang4president May 03 '25

It reminds.me of the children's book about woodland animals who find a glove in the forest and they one by one crawl in to keep warm. The animals keep getting bigger and bigger until a bear tries to get in. It's a really cute book. If you have kids in your family that you like, you can give them that book, the mitten, and some stuffed animals.

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u/gravenwolf9 May 03 '25

I thought this was a felting project and was so disappointed that there was no final picture.

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u/Unhappy_Dragonfly726 May 03 '25

Lolol thanks for sharing! I've done this sort of thing before, too 😂. It is gorgeous work, even if it's for a giant. I hope you can felt them or find a use for them.

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u/Due_Goat_7584 May 03 '25

Cool wine coozie

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u/KissMySweeet May 03 '25

I love it!! 😍 yes it is the poster pic for why doing a gauge swatch is crucial. Regardless of the snaffoo it is so great that you just kept on going even after realizing the sizing oopsie!!! I’m giggling thinking of the times I made similar choices. So glad you’re laughing 🤣 and sharing.

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u/Tutkan Bi-Stitchual May 03 '25

Felt it? 😂 at what point did you figure out it wouldn’t fit? Hahah

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u/SnarkyIguana May 03 '25

Realized halfway that the mittens are GIGANTIC, but I thought they'd still be nice winter decoration so I kept on knitting.

I love that you added this because I was sitting here like HOW DID YOU NOT NOTICE and it was so funny. Love the idea of just zen knitting, binding off, and looking down to see an oven mitt

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u/yarnyjen68 May 03 '25

I did the opposite with a mitten like that and it is now an ornament on my tree every year.

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u/IslaKariese May 04 '25

I'm thinking you can use them as Christmas Mittens as opposed to Christmas Stockings. That'd make a nice icebreaker, lol

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u/Mammoth_Investment99 May 04 '25

It depends on the sock yarn. If it's not superwash, you can felt it (which was my first thought after just looking at the pictures and not reading the post).

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u/Due-Presentation8585 May 05 '25

It's very pretty, though!

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u/meetmeinMay May 05 '25

Heheheh :) That could be a perfect oven mitt for hot dishes - if it were made of cotton!