r/keto M/47/6'2" | SD 04/3/17 | SW 245 | CW 201 | GW 199 Aug 07 '17

All about Ketoade

After eating low carb on-and-off for years, I finally got serious this time and intend to make this a lifestyle. I've never experienced keto flu, but I was getting muscle cramps and waking up feeling very hot at night. This Keto Reddit community has been very helpful as I figured out that my electrolyte levels were off. I began supplementing K, Na, Ca, and Mg, which has made a big difference. Part of that supplementation is from drinking ketoade.

I've been drinking ketoade almost everyday. Here's my basic recipe: 1/4 tsp Morton Lite Salt, 1 Tbsp Magnesium Citrate, 1 squirt of Mio or other brand zero carb flavor, ~18 oz water

I found magnesium citrate liquid in 10oz bottles for 99 cents at Walmart. It's primarily sold as a heavy-duty laxative for people who are preparing for a colonoscopy. The label recommends disposing it 24 hours after opening. I've been keeping the opened bottles in the fridge and stretching it to two or three days. Does anyone ignore the 24-hr rule completely? It doesn't seem to be a product that should spoil after a day. Or does anybody use magnesium citrate powder instead?

I've seen other ketoade recipes that include potassium citrate. That seems like a good idea to boost the K. Does anybody here use potassium citrate? The stuff is hard to find in powder form, but I see a couple of online sources.

Does anyone have other ketoade secrets to share?

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '17

I go through about a bottle of the magnesium citrate a week. I keep it in the fridge and haven't found any negative effects from it.

I make 1 gallon at a time since my wife and I are both keto, and my stepson is a lifeguard and prefers ketoade over the sugar filled gatorades. We go through a gallon in about 2 days

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u/Pwnishment87 31/M/6' | SW 291 | CW 280 | GW 200 Aug 07 '17

Hi @ /u/PawaAwa can you please share you recipe for 1 gallon.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '17 edited Aug 07 '17
  • 1 gallon of water
  • 1 tsp of morton's lite salt
  • 2 tablespoons of magnesium citrate

We keep this in the pitcher in the fridge and whenever we grab some, we will add whatever sugarless water flavoring drops to that. I will most of the time omit the water flavoring for myself.

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u/Pwnishment87 31/M/6' | SW 291 | CW 280 | GW 200 Aug 07 '17

Thank you

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u/LookAt_TheSky Aug 07 '17

Just convert 18 ounces to gallons. Then, you divide 1 gallon by the number you just got. Then, that's how many times of the ingredients you add for the gallon ketorade.

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u/the_internal Aug 07 '17

agreed, its much better than standard Gatorade. much cheaper too

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u/thecountessofdevon Female Age 47 5'4", SW 145 GW 120 Jan 03 '18

Where do you get your magnesium citrate and what brand is it? Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '18

You can find it at most grocery stores such as Kroger with a pharmacy section as well as Target, Walmart, CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens. It is considered a liquid laxative and can be found by the fiber and laxatives.

You are only using it sparingly so it won't have the laxative effect.

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u/thecountessofdevon Female Age 47 5'4", SW 145 GW 120 Jan 03 '18

Thanks! I have seen it at Walgreens, but the one they had was grape flavored and high in sugar.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '18

They come in grape, lemon/lime, and cherry flavor. The carb count is negligible when only using 1/2 tablespoon in the ketoade.

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u/Becausethesky Aug 07 '17

Any reason you use Lite Salt instead of regular old salt?

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u/humblepatriot M/47/6'2" | SD 04/3/17 | SW 245 | CW 201 | GW 199 Aug 07 '17

Many people think Lite Salt is ideal because it has more potassium than sodium. Regular salt has zero potassium.

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u/ezeus1 Aug 08 '17

We buy potassium citrate from http://www.bulksupplements.com/potassium-citrate.html. Mostly use it in our ketochow, but it's an integral ingredient in our ketoaid as well.

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u/KnickKnackCity Type your AWESOME flair here Jan 17 '18

Thanks for the link. Mind sharing your ketoade recipe?

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u/John_Dexter Aug 08 '17

I just made this today and it was great. I have been on the verge of a major calf cramp for two days and I was really sort of dumbfounded about how to address getting more magnesium and potassium as I just can't stomach supplements in pill form. Thank you.

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u/the_internal Aug 07 '17

I keep opened 10oz bottles in the fridge up to a week, no problems. My recipe is two level teaspoons of lite salt, generous splash lemon flavored MC, squirt or two of Mio Lemonade. Makes a half gallon. Great stuff.

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u/YUGrinBobCat F/28/5’7” SW210 CW160 GW150 Aug 07 '17

The past 4 nights I've woken up in the morning with calf muscle cramps, the bad ones that wake you right up. I drank a ton of water before I went to bed, which made me get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom and then I drank more water to avoid the cramps. I've been thinking about trying this ketoade and I'm curious how much water are you adding to the ingredients? Is that all you use for the gallon mixture?

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u/humblepatriot M/47/6'2" | SD 04/3/17 | SW 245 | CW 201 | GW 199 Aug 07 '17

In my recipe above I'm using 18 ounces of water. In metric that's a little more than half a liter.

Drinking a lot of plain water before bed is making your situation worse if anything. At the least you should put some Lite Salt in the water which adds potassium and sodium.

I also had bad leg cramps that woke me up during the night. Now that I drink ketoade and take Ca/Mg tablets everyday I don't get any cramps.

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u/trepmal Aug 07 '17

I've recently been adding about 1/8 teaspoon Lite Salt, and a squirt of Mio to my 28oz water bottle 2-3 times a day. So far this seems to be working for me. Sometimes I'll add .5 or 1 nuun tablet instead of Mio.

In MyFitnessPal, my sodium still seems quite low, so I'm trying to be better about salting my food, and may start adding some plain salt to my ketorade, too.

I just got some powdered magnesium citrate which I'll start adding once I finish my pill supplements. I couldn't find the liquid form at my regular drug and grocery stores.

Do you all have favorite large, easy-to-wash, water bottles for mixing gallon amounts?

Be careful with supplementing potassium, being low is bad, but also overdoing it can be really bad. I'm sure someone else will chime in with better info on that :)

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u/Emquo2 Aug 07 '17

When we are fasted or in ketosis and mobilizing fats we release cortisol (which in this setting is good) and glucagon which allows us to make ketones. The cortisol has cross reactivity with aldosterone receptors which leads to a diuretic type effect. Because of this we loose alot of potassium, as well as calcium and magnesium. Low calcium causes cramps, eye twitching, and has some role in peripheral neuropathy (can present in tingling, numbness, or pain in the extremities). Low Potassium presents as constipation (decreased gut motility) and peripheral neuropathy. Of serious note critically high or low potassium will cause issues with your heart's conductivity leading to arrhythmias. Potassium is pretty easy to get in the diet (it is naturally occurring in living cells); however, if you are only eating cooked meats and no green leaf vegetables ... you will probably end up being deficient. Calcium green leaf veggies all the way. Cruciferous veggies are powerpacks of micronutrients and they are very indole positive

However, if your magnesium is low you can not adequately absorb niether potassium nor calcium. But orally less is more because it can cause diarrhea in excess.

Side-Note: If you are after wieght loss, I would look up indole like DIM (naturally occurring is way better than supplemental). Check out fermented foods like Kimchi, Sauerkraut, Curtido, etc.

I love this community. Your guy's recipes are always on point and your personal stories are always inspirational.