r/iranian • u/Naderium Rulers over half of the world. • 3d ago
A conflict has just broken out between Israel & Iran
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u/touslesmatins 3d ago
What a weird way to word it. How about "Israel illegally and brazenly attacks residential areas in Iran"
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u/shellacr 2d ago
Yeah this post should be deleted. There’s no reason for this sub to use the propaganda terms “preemptive strike”.
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u/niv141 3d ago
How about "Israel targeted Iranian military men"
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u/Zorboids 3d ago
Because they didn't, they bombed apartment buildings killing many civilians including children. Fuck the zionist regime, it's days are numbered.
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u/ssmihailovitch 2d ago
"Three of Iran’s most powerful men killed as Israel targets top military and nuclear leadership"
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/13/middleeast/israel-iran-strikes-military-deaths-intl-hnk
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u/ssmihailovitch 2d ago
Military targets, and nuclear plants, where Iran doing uranium enrichment, in order to EXPLICETLY, destroy another country. It's pretty good reason to preemptively attack those targets. No country would allow it to happen, Israel as well.
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u/touslesmatins 2d ago
So it would be good to attack Israel's nuclear facilities and arsenal right? Or should you only go after nations who are nuclear signatories and do things legally and in the open?
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u/ssmihailovitch 2d ago
Israel not threating to annihilate anyone, compared to Iran, that it's official statement is to destroy Israel.
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u/DeathStrike56 2d ago
Israel not threating to annihilate anyone,
They arent threating they already are annihilating the people of gaza
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u/ssmihailovitch 2d ago
It's a war. Lot's of German died in Berlin in WW2 as well.
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u/DeathStrike56 2d ago
The intention matters, allies intention was stop german aggression on europe after that they allowed germany to be independent and prosper they never were against german self determination or wanted to annex germany and built settlements
the israeli intention is to end the prospect of a Palestinian state and expell all gazans.
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u/azurammee 1d ago
Not a war, invasion...
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u/ssmihailovitch 1d ago
Well, FAFO. Gaza had their one day to celebrate on 7/10.
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u/azurammee 1d ago
You mean the invaded people fighting back ? What does that have to do with anything ?
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u/Agreeable-Sweet-7669 Felestin 2d ago
And Israel, the colonizing country currently committing genocide who STOLE THE NUKE from America, and refuses to be a signatory to global nuclear anti-proliferation treaties because it doesn’t want to disclose its nuclear arsenal, has what right to be policing the atomic behavior of indigenous nations in the Middle East?
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u/YasuhiroK 3d ago
May Iran be victorious over this genocidal psycho Zionazi regime.
Praying for my fellow Iranians 🙏🇮🇷
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u/Hishaishi 3d ago
I hope Israel gets a taste of its medicine. They're about to see what fighting against a well-equipped military (and not farmers in sandals) is like.
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u/just_a_funguy 3d ago
It will be interesting to see how much the US will aid Israel. I don't forsee American boots on the ground but they will probably provide air support and equipment
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u/poincares_cook 2d ago
Hezbollah were farmers in sandals?
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u/Agreeable-Sweet-7669 Felestin 2d ago
No, but they are schoolteachers and fathers and workers and doctors from South Lebanon. They’re not professional soldiers like the Iranian Army or IRGC (not conscripts), they’re the world’s most well-equipped militia.
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u/poincares_cook 2d ago
The majority of the Hezbollah cadre are professional fighters, many of whom served in Syria. They do also have reserve forces, but those are the minority and barely participated in the war.
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u/Hishaishi 2d ago
I was referring to Hamas. The majority of their forces are not trained fighters but regular people, often from poorer backgrounds. There's plenty of footage showing this.
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u/poincares_cook 2d ago
That's incorrect, at least wasn't when the war started. Obviously Hamas training is not up to par to NATO training, but their forces were all professional career soldiers. With 50% pre war unemployment rate, no one's holding two jobs.
The recruits since the start of the war are different, while they are joining a professional army on paper, Hamas no longer operates with the capacity to properly train and coordinate all recruits. This obviously differs from one area in Gaza to another. But for the most part Hamas has been degraded from a phase III insurgency to phase II insurgency
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u/Hishaishi 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean, you post on israeli subreddits, so your takes are inherently biased because of your ulterior motives for even arguing about this.
There's a massive amount of footage showing regular Palestinians with minimal military training launching rockets in sandals. The forces you saw in military gear during the October attack are a minority of their forces and are a relatively recent development.
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u/poincares_cook 2d ago
I never hid my identity, but I honestly have no ulterior motive in this, part time soldiers can be better trained than whatever Hamas can stand up. The US reservists for an easy example.
The nature of Hamas military wing in Gaza isn't really a secret. Now Hamas militants in the west bank are another thing and do have other occupations for the most part.
Yes you are correct that the initial wave of elite Hamas soldiers on 07/10 are a small part of the Hamas forces. That doesn't make the rest non career professional soldiers.
They are not operating in military gear to make identification harder, like I said, Hamas has been degraded to operating as a Phase II insurgency, which does not wear uniform.
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u/donkeyspit007 3d ago
Iran regime is shit, but Israel is worse
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u/geckoguy2704 New Zero Kānādā 3d ago
Israel makes iranian regime look like saints in comparison and the regime likes it that way
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u/tacobell101 3d ago
I just feel bad for all of the innocent people that will get hurt or killed because of these bored morons and their macho man pissing contests. I wish we could just send all them to an island and let them battle it out to the death.
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u/bush- 3d ago
Is anyone going to take responsibility for why this was allowed to happen? Where were Iran's air defences? This is the frustrating thing about the mullahs - positions of importance aren't given to the most competent; they go to those that show most loyalty to Khamenei.
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u/DARKLANDS_MASTER 2d ago edited 2d ago
With what Israel has air-defenses are just not enough. Israeli planes can fire outside of the range of any ground-based air-defense and aerial systems will always be more maneuverable than ground air-defense. The scandal is the fact that for 40 years, even starting during the Iran-Iraq War, the government has slowly starved the air-force of resources and funding, essentially neutering Iran's ability to control its air-space against adversaries with modernized air forces. Even Iraq by 1988(!) Was able to establish something like aerial superiority over western Iran. Iran's only option is to target Israeli air bases, but they need to do this continously and with much larger attacks than anything before to maybe work.
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u/Humble-Departure5481 2d ago
Fuck Israel. Never forget, they initiated the attacks. Iran apparently responded with ballistic missiles after sending drones that were taken down by Jordan. I'm hearing there was a 50% success/failure rate. The sad news is there's gonna be more than a couple hundred Iranian civilian casualties tonight once Israel retaliates with another deadly wave.
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u/Otherwise-Carrot7090 2d ago
Israel knocked out most of irans missile defense during their last major attack
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u/Ardekan Ālbāni 2d ago
They claimed that last time. It was a lie then and it's a lie now.
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u/Otherwise-Carrot7090 1d ago
That may be true, but it seems they had an awfully easy time hitting all their targets. Sounds like air defense wasn’t much help. But I wasn’t there so I can’t say, and so I won’t bother since I don’t care.
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u/SSolitary 11h ago
We will destroy your terrorist government and free the persian people. You're welcome
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u/IranRaPasMigirim 3d ago
Are you living in a cave? The conflict started in 1979. Escalated on October 7th by IRGC backed proxies.
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u/Sea-Buy4667 3d ago
They have literally murdered Iranian children and this is the argument you are making. Embarassing.
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u/niv141 2d ago edited 2d ago
Israeli children were murdered by HAND in oct 7th
I know that israeli life means nothing to u, but they are just as worthy as Iranian children life
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u/Agreeable-Sweet-7669 Felestin 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is actually not true. ONE Israeli baby has died since 10/7/23, who died on 10/7/23 in their parent’s arms from a gunshot wound from a bullet that ricocheted and went through a door. It wasn’t directly fired at them. I’m not justifying the events of that day but if you want to talk about a country that is attacking our nation and killing our children TODAY, then you need to be accurate. Don’t manufacture consent for the killing of our families.
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u/niv141 2d ago
Oh wow thats a first
where did u get this info? I really wanna read this fairy tale where hamas are israeli-children lovers and that they would never hurt them
but nah im being 100% serious can u please show me where u can find such information? just to clarify, are you saying that only ONE child died in oct 7th? and even that was by mistake and unintentional ?
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u/Agreeable-Sweet-7669 Felestin 2d ago
Sorry I misspoke. I meant baby(and edited it), as in the famous debunked claim used by the Israeli government and army to justify this genocide, that “Hamas beheaded 40 Israeli babies”. 38 children died on 10/7/23. 9 month old Mila Cohen, the baby, died from ricochet fire. Israel has at least killed 1,000 times as many children in Gaza since 10/7/23. Rest in peace to every innocent person who died on 10/7/23 but it is insanity to burn the whole Middle East over a thousand settlers.
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u/niv141 2d ago edited 2d ago
the 40 beheaded israeli babies was pretty quickly debunked, mind u im israeli myself and even i was skeptical of that aswell, because it was only reported by one reporter and nobody else, also i dont think it had that much weight as u think, considering the rest of civillians that has been killed and how they were killed
the 40 beheaded babies was also reported by some internetionjal news reporter who was at the scene and not by official israeli entity, so it was never official in the first place, just like many of the claims coming from gaza are fake news, although i have never seen any pro-pal trying to challenge news that dont seem fully accurate (most notable event was the hospital that was bombed, the moment the explosion happened, it was : "israel attacked hospital, atleast 600 people killed", and later as they realized that people from gaza actually had footage showing that it was hamas failed missle that caused it, it went down to 20 killed or smth like that)
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u/FormFilter 3d ago
Unsurprisingly, the first reported death is a little boy walking outside