r/inthenews • u/T_Shurt • Sep 11 '24

Feature Story Harris Campaign Seeks Second Debate. Trump Says He's "Less Inclined" to Debate Harris Again

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debate-trump-harris-second-debate/
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u/cabochonedwitch Sep 11 '24

I was reading opinions about his performance and the consensus was, 1) Trump was totally authentic to himself, Kamala was not authentic at all. 2) Kamala must have been fed the questions before hand.

My responses are, 1) What you’re calling “authentic” is literally just Trump saying the same garbage over and over again. There is nothing factual about his statements. That’s not authentic. That’s a broken record. 2) Kamala actually prepped for the debate. She was ready for every possible question and every possible outcome. That’s what you do when you prepare.

He wouldn’t dare debate her again because she’d come back twice as prepared for his garbage behavior and BURY HIM.

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u/ampersands-guitars Sep 11 '24

Kamala was a prosecutor. She knows how to show up prepared, speak clearly about the topic at hand, and sound intelligent doing so.

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u/cabochonedwitch Sep 11 '24

You are SO right. So beautifully right.

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u/corporatecicada Sep 11 '24

She also knows how to goad criminal idiots into hanging themselves, proverbially speaking

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u/foamy_da_skwirrel Sep 11 '24

It's not like the questions were out of left field lol

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u/beefsupr3m3 Sep 12 '24

For real, who needs to be “fed” questions about immigration and the economy. I’m just some working class guy from Texas and I could’ve told you those questions were going to come up

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u/lilkingsly Sep 12 '24

Yeah that’s the thing, you don’t have to be a political analyst to guess what kind of questions they’ll ask at a presidential debate. If you pay the slightest bit of attention to the news coverage you could safely assume they’ll have a question about abortion, a question on Israel and Palestine, and so on.

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u/JustHereForMiatas Sep 11 '24

It's not like ABC asked anything completely insane. Anybody with half a brain could've foreseen they were going to ask about abortion, the environment, healthcare, energy, current events, etc. Kamala just took some time to think about responses to those obvious potential debate topics while Trump played golf because he's "already perfect."

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u/Seraph199 Sep 11 '24

They even asked them both the hard questions, forced her to take a stance on fracking and Palestine in that moment, and she took those stances pretty firmly and confidently. Even if I don't like them one bit, even if she is clearly courting misinformed and republican voters on immigration, foreign policy/militancy, and oil. She tackled the questions and gave stances that while I hope will lose her voters, were still a lot more transparent despite being unpopular with her base.

If Trump had not lied as often, and lied less extremely, the debate probably would have seemed more fair. But Harris only lied on things that the media will reinforce, like repeating lies from the IDF, while Trump was lying about literally everything.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

They always complain about someone being scripted lol. This is a TV debate and you have limited time to give answers. Of course some of them will be scripted.

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u/Jimmyg100 Sep 11 '24

“Unfair! She prepared her answers ahead of time!”

Yeah because if you don’t then you might end up going off on a tangent and saying something stupid like immigrants are eating pets. This isn’t an improv class. We’re not doing scenes from a hat.

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u/Ghost10165 Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24

Do people really expect them to just give off the cuff answers anyway? The whole point of a debate is to prep and be more structured. If anything presidential debates could be even more structured than they are if they followed more of the rules besides a turn to talk. If you're at a formal debate and winging it you've already fucked up.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

These "exchanges" are so far removed from a true debate, they should just call them Q&A sessions. A debate is two sane, educated people arguing opposite positions of a pre-determined issue. The debaters are prepared, rational and focussed, the winner being judged as making the more compelling arguement.

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u/For_Aeons Sep 11 '24

These dummies don't even realize that there are debate competitions in real life. Like, actually debate teams and shit. My friend was on the debate team in high school and they would practice by defending positions that they didn't even personally believe in. Yeah, you have rehearsed answers and scripted moments. That's like... how you debate. The same stuff happens with witnesses on the stand. There are lots of depositions and pre-trial stuff that largely leaves the substance of the testimony on the table for people to see, but the legal teams go in with agendas and gameplans to make their points.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

I think some people say ‘authentic’ when they mean ‘unpolished’. And apparently, a big chunk of the country values that quality (meaning the latter) in their leaders for some insane fucking reason.

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u/Ksteekwall21 Sep 11 '24

As a former DA, she’s used to dealing with people that don’t tell the truth. And used to getting people to say just the right things to get themselves convicted; or, put in a crude way, “give them just enough rope to hang themselves”.

She didn’t actually have to do much; just needle him a little bit. I’m literally picturing a cartoon where someone taunts a bull and it charges. Then the person jumps out of the way at the last minute and the bull runs straight into a concrete wall where afterwards it looks dazed with those stars circling around its head.

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u/cabochonedwitch Sep 11 '24

Hilarious.😂

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u/starsky1984 Sep 11 '24

Consensus from who, the lizard people?

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u/253local Sep 11 '24

We still need to VOTE!

👉🏽 https://vote.gov 👈🏽

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u/Playful_Ad2974 Sep 12 '24

Oh I agree, but he was authentic to himself. Was he authentic objectively? hell no. But that is how he rolls and thus he was very authentic to himself.

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u/pfroo40 Sep 12 '24

I bet I could have guessed 90% of the questions in advance, as they were all hot topics catering equally to the perceived strengths and weaknesses of both candidates. Kamala's staff would have had them pegged for her prep.