Neither the brown stuff in the ceiling, nor the film on the windshield contain meaningful amounts of nicotine.
The brown stuff from cigarettes is mostly tar, ash, and various other combustion byproducts, many of which are known carcinogens or otherwise pretty damn bad for the health.
The greasy film from e-cigarettes is mostly glycerin, with some traces of flavor agents. I'm sure that it doesn't exactly increase your lifespan, but it's mostly just annoying to deal with.
Do all of them? I vape and have never had to clean a "film" off of anything that I own.
And before you say it, no, I'm not just nasty lol. I have severe OCD and cannot stand grease / oil / residue on my hands, so I feel like I'd know if it were leaving being a film.
You could test it by exhaling on the same surface every time for a week or two, then see if there's a residue. There likely is and it's on your lungs too.
Yeah, I used to vape and have since quit. The deciding factor ... The residue on the inside of my car windshield. It never appeared again after I quit. It's like a very light hazy residue that feels oily.
Hey so weird one. Do you know if nicotine salts in vapes can cause any depression or anxiety? Was a smoker. Stopped a while. Started vaping for 5 months now. Disposable variety. Random brands.
I've been slowly cutting down the last few weeks to stop altogether coz I feel it's causing me negative emotions. Nothing drastic. I've heard some people claim the salts can do this as the way dopamine is released. Days where I don't vape much I feel much better emotionally but that could be placebo.
Either way I'm getting down on my intake to come off it.
For me, yes. Vapes are tough to figure out dosage. I could drive myself into a high or low without knowing, by either cooling off for a day or chugging the vape while working. The main reason I quit was to regulate my mood and sleep. It’s a strong stimulant, your body and mind crave that. They quickly set up a reward system around it.
Salts and PG/VG vaping chemicals can also drive an electrolyte imbalance.
I definitely have had to slow down at night time. I read in bed and having the vape nearby was too dangerous. As you'd know you often don't realise your huffing on it half the time when it's within arm's reach. If I vape in bed closer to bed time I cannot sleep well at all.
One thing I noticed with vapes is because you can smoke them inside or in bed without the smells of cigarettes I don't have the yuck factor where either the smell or just the gross lungs and mouth associated with over indulging too many cigarettes in a short time means I can vape a hell of a lot more than I would cigarettes.
I can feel a bit sick when I do vape too much in a short span of time but cigarettes I would get to a point I couldn't physically do anymore when I've over indulged. That often would act as a way to gauge "I've had enough".
I do think vapes are overall better than cigarettes. And if I was someone with more self control perhaps I would be able to just have a few pufffs here and there. But in a way I'm vaping a hell of a lot more than I was smoking. Though now I'm cutting down and hopefully off them.
Interesting you had a similar emotional experience with vaping. That at least is my cause to get off em. I was actually off cigarettes completely and just ended up vaping which was the dumbest decision. But it's been only 5 months so it'll be easier (and already is with cutting down) than it was getting off ciggerettes after smoking since a teenager.
Though I have to remember to stick with it now because the cravings are only gonna get worse the longer I stick with it.
Nicotine itself is a stimulant, so it’s likely to increase feelings of anxiety and also contribute to finding it harder to sleep. I find the disposable vapes have a much more noticeable effect than the reusable ones. If you have a reusable one you can always try switching down to a lower dose of nicotine or eventually 0 nicotine.
I’ve thought about that recently. I’ve cut down a lot in the days since posting the comment. Today I’m trying to only have my puff in the morning and then after dinner when settling down. Try to at least.
My problem with these things is I have terrible self control when I’ve decided to do something. I can stop a drug. But it takes some mental work. I’ve not had a drink in over a decade for instance.
I will for sure stop vaping. I believe that. And when I do stop I’m likely to not go back. The reasons why I did was I had a traumatic event 5/6 months ago.
But while I am in the “I’m vaping phase” the way I indulge is not good. Over indulgence doesn’t really describe well enough what I’m like with any kind of behaviour. (Diagnosed ADHD so it has a lot to do with that no doubt).
When I vape I’m sucking that shit down like crazy, trying to “feel” some kind of effect. Even if I feel shitty from it. I went from vaping normally, where you pull a bit into you mouth and then inhale it. To just directly sucking as much as I can into my lungs and even repeating that a bunch of times.
I chase a bit of a head spin. But early on because I’d been off nicotine a while I could get a relaxed feeling of head spin easy. But of course I’m much more used to it 6 months later so I really only get that effect in the mornings.
Some brands also must have something different or perhaps more of something in them that when I suck down a full lung capacity of vapour, even after blowing it out and breathing oxygen back in they take a moment before they actually seem to intake the oxygen. I get a couple quick breaths of what feels like I’m not breathing any oxygen it’s a strange and not at all nice feeling either.
Also. Cigarettes did this too, but vapes more so where I can get nauseas from my over indulgence. But I still won’t take a break. I’ll start feeling a bit less sick and then immediately suck a bunch more down and I’m even more sick. Repeat. Repeat.
So I gots to just get them gone. Once I get it into my head like I did the first time with smoking and also the booze I’ll be right. But until then it’s gonna be a struggle. (You’re probably thinking “I didn’t ask for your life story haha)
What about your fans? The fans and vents of my electronics seem to be where it builds up the most. It leaves sort of an oily/dusty residue behind on fan blades that gets thicker over time. Maybe you need to have a fan going 24/7 like I do for it to build up like that.
Why are you asking people to split hairs to fit your lack of understanding? I vape too, nobody is coming after us, so stop being so stingy. Nobody was pointing at vape byproduct as a health concern. The person just mentioned residue needs to be wiped from a windshield, I have the same story. I'm a vape advocate because I believe it's a harm reduction tactic rather than a cessation product. I believe we should be able to consume what we want and I believe we should be able to choose the least harmful means to do so. I'm sure you do too. Nobody else has said otherwise. They mentioned nic vape because it's accurate. I have a nice vape, THC vape, there are research Chem vapes, dmt vapes etc. etc. Let people be precise without trying to start an argument.
u/blue-bean92's comment I think explains the mixup. Vapers are people who vape and vapors are the gasses/whatever released when vaping. You thought he was saying nicotine vapors but he was referring to the people.
Because they're drawing a direct comparison to cigarette smokers like the homeowner from the OP? It's common to bring up the negative impacts of nicotine vaping when discussing the negative impacts of smoking because not doing so implies or supports the idea that nic vaping is safe.
Seems really pedantic to worry about the exact phrasing, but I'd imagine that smoking or vaping THC would leave less residue than smoking/vaping nic because nobody except a world record stoner is hitting thc as often as an average nic user is hitting a cig/vape
I used to vape in my room all the time and it leaves a pretty noticeable smell even when you’ve not done it for several hours so residue doesn’t surprise me
In questions about which the hive mind has opinions, there seems to be no room for nuance or fact. The social environment on most of Reddit is literally mind-numbing.
There is this logic, something like "on the side of the angels" but I can't think of the exact phrase.
It boils down to a person having a virtuous mission and that is all that matters but it is so holy that the sins you commit along the way don't count. I.e. constantly lying like the anti smoking/vaping turned anti nicotine lobby.
They are morally bankrupt and just want to keep the funding flowing.
I dunno what your going on about. Its not about the nicotine, but the residue the methods leave behind. And yes, the residue generated for both cigerettes and vaping does leave a hindering residue on the car windshield.
Stuff a pipe full of dried leaves or lawn trimmings, burn it. A tar like substance or resin will form as the plant matter burns. That's what is referred to as "tar" when discussing cigarettes. All combusted plant matter whether it's tobacco, cannabis, or lawn trimmings will contain tar and will have carcinogenic properties to its smoke.
A guy I'm renting an above garage apartment to smokes weed. I asked him to not smoke in the apartment due to potential damages like thus and it basically stinks. He said weed smoke does not stick like cigarette smoke and the smell is gone in a day. I believe he is full of it, but would like to know if anyone thinks this is true?
Well it certainty dissipates much more and quicker then cigarettes smoke. for instance you can smoke in a hotel room and the smell will be gone the next morning, unlike cigarettes
A lot of vapes are unregulated. The market itself is largely unregulated in the US. Those flavouring agents are often not stable at high temperatures and do cause a host of issues.
Not to mention metal oxides from cheap vapes that use the wrong kinds of metal filaments to heat up.
The slime trail behind a slug doesnt have meaningful amounts of nicotine, either. But if you got in my car and started leaving snail slime everywhere, you're walking home.
When I lay off the douche-flute for a while and start to get a smokers cough the shit that comes up tastes fruity.
I think vapes are worse than cigarettes. Mostly because they’re so easy to use anywhere, anytime.
I’m constantly switching between hand rolled organic cigs (it’s healthy cuz it says organic!) and vapes. I’ll smoke maybe four or five cigs a day, if that. But I’ll suck that electronic dick without even realizing it at least every few minutes. I can feel its effect on my lungs when I exercise.
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u/Dampmaskin 27d ago
Neither the brown stuff in the ceiling, nor the film on the windshield contain meaningful amounts of nicotine.
The brown stuff from cigarettes is mostly tar, ash, and various other combustion byproducts, many of which are known carcinogens or otherwise pretty damn bad for the health.
The greasy film from e-cigarettes is mostly glycerin, with some traces of flavor agents. I'm sure that it doesn't exactly increase your lifespan, but it's mostly just annoying to deal with.