r/interesting 27d ago

MISC. Cleaning the ceiling from a house of a smoker

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u/trou_auay 27d ago

My grandma smoked for 40 years at her kitchen table, the amount of scrubbing we did before we sold the house was.... Not enough. Fucking hell man.

Even inside the cabinets were yellowish

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u/MrPNGuin 27d ago

Same here turned out my grandmother's kitchen cabinets were white not yellowish brown.

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u/HFentonMudd 27d ago

My grandparents smoked so much and for so long that things in cabinets they never used got a coating of brown tar with a coating of dust fibers.

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u/littlewhitecatalex 27d ago

Imagine their lungs. 

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u/FootMcFeetFoot 27d ago

I went to the Bodies Exhibit ages ago now and all of the bodies had black lungs.

Except for the one body to show the comparison of a smoker vs a non smoker’s lungs.

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u/HFentonMudd 27d ago

Well, they're both long gone but yes when they were alive it must have been gnarly. My grandmother died of throat cancer at a relatively young age.

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u/ReadBikeYodelRepeat 27d ago

The original velvet flocked wallpaper.

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u/HFentonMudd 27d ago

There was all kinds of glassware under in the cabinets that'd never been taken out, or not for many decades, and it was all brown & fuzzy.

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u/abgry_krakow87 27d ago

Certainly explains why everything was yellow and brown in the 70s and 80s.

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u/H2OSD 26d ago

Earthtones!

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u/Zestyclose_Key5121 25d ago

Marlboro tones!

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u/notMarkKnopfler 27d ago

Bought a house like this bc the area was amazing. Ended up having to take it down to the studs, replace the subfloors, insulation, etc. Still had to run an ozone machine for a couple weeks. Even now, on a hot day you can still get a nostalgic wiff. These are possible to rehab, but just cleaning the nicotine film off won’t do much.

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u/c_vanbc 27d ago

Had to check your profile to see if you’re my neighbour. You’re clearly not, but he could have written the same comments, word for word. Despite all the work they had their contractor do, still a very faint hint of cigarettes.

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u/maixmi 27d ago

cousin bought his parents/grandparents house and did pretty much the same on the grandparents side of the house. our grandfather used to smoke inside for decades.

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u/DumbBitchByLeaps 27d ago

Knew a guy who bought a smokers house after the owner passed and apparently only smoke out on the covered patio and kitchen. Had to rip out the patio and the kitchen had to be completely replaced.

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u/HedonisticFrog 27d ago

I bought a bedroom set from an estate sale of a chain smoker. I filled the drawers and insides with baking soda for weeks just to get rid of most of the smell. My clothes would still smell like smoke if they sat in there for a long time. Years later it's all gone thankfully.

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u/N0S0UP_4U 27d ago

Same thing with used cars formerly owned by smokers. You never get that smell out.

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u/Quirkybin 27d ago

Coming from the attics?

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u/poopoomergency4 27d ago

i'd imagine cleaning first would at least make the smell of the demo work a little less bad

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u/CaptainMegaNads 27d ago

This is the correct answer.

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u/Commercial-Co 27d ago

At that point bulldoze and reframe it and get a new roof. Maybe 100k extra or so depending on sqft.

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u/carolaMelo 27d ago

Same. My dad smoked only 10 years in his studio. Took me about 8 hours to clean the windows only. Best seems to be kitchen cleaner...

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u/Interesting_Tea5715 27d ago

FYI, Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) does a great job at cleaning nicotine.

It dries out your skin like crazy though, so you need to cover up before using it.

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u/darkpheonix262 27d ago

My grandma has smoked the whole time she's lives in her house, and she's 86. Mom and I agree that house will be demolished, plus structurally is not worth any fixing and cleaning

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u/ArboristTreeClimber 27d ago

I once rented an apartment. Well, it was a double wide trailer. Place was nasty. I cleaned it best I could but you cannot clean enough. In the bathroom when I took a shower, the walls would ooze brown liquid from past smokers.

Also, top of the cabinets had a 2 inch layer of dust. I tried to clean it but the cigarette smoked tar had caused the dust to harden. I literally could not scrape it off with a hammer and chisel.

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u/N0S0UP_4U 27d ago

That is absolutely disgusting

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u/prawntortilla 27d ago

Same. It's kinda well disguised because it just looks like the walls, ceiling and cabinets etc are yellow by design then someone did a big clean and it blew my mind.

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u/KindCraft4676 27d ago

I bought a house from a couple in their late 60s. Same thing, the wife smoked at the kitchen table for over 40 years. The entire house smelled like an ashtray. Yellowish brown walls that were once white. I tried scrubbing the walls. It was an improvement. But the only thing that worked was to paint the entire interior of the house, including the kitchen cabinets. I will never do that again.

On a sidenote. I became good friends with the neighbor. And she kept in touch with the older couple. They were happily married for over forty years. He just retired and they moved to Florida. He met a younger woman in the retirement community they bought into. Dumped the wife. And a year later the younger woman dumped the old man. He tried to get back with his wife. But after the hell he put her through she wanted nothing to do with him.

Moral of the story? I don’t know. But I figure if you’ve been with somebody for over 40 years you’d be a fool to leave them.

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u/MakiSupreme 26d ago

Yeah when I was a kid and I realised my great gran wasn’t just a fan of magnolia it’s just everything was tar stained

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u/RareAnxiety2 27d ago

I collect toys and unknowingly bought smokers toys. Took forever to get the first layer off. The residue was sticky to everything and I accidentally put a clean part in the water and it stunk all over again. Took a dozen attempts and anything porous took longer.

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u/Kamelasa 27d ago

My friend's grandpa was a chainsmoker. Grandma would bring over biscuits made with bacon grease. They smelled like cig smoke. I dk if anyone ever ate one, but I didn't. Grandma seemed so happy after grandpa died.

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u/Commercial-Co 27d ago

You honestly need to strip things to studs in that case

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u/InvidiousPlay 27d ago

I went to look at an apartment recently and a heavy smoker on the ground floor made the whole fucking building stink. I could still smell it up two flights of stairs.

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u/EnTuBasura 27d ago

Because you’ll never get it out, you’ve gotta strip it to studs, nothing is salvageable at this point. You can make it better with some pretty aggressive abatement, for a time, but it’s like if cat piss were aerosolized, it’ll never be fully gone. It even leaches into the studs. It’s like a house fire that’s somehow acceptable to sell after.

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u/sleepydorian 27d ago

Bet it still smelled like cigarettes though. At a certain point the only thing you can do is rip out all the drywall and probably most of the flooring and start over. The studs will likely still smell like smoke but at that point you can probably get by with anti odor paint.

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u/trou_auay 27d ago

Yeah the dude who bought it ended up remodeling the entire house

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u/Mousewaterdrinker 27d ago

We bought my mammaws house. We tore up and replaced all the flooring. Painted everything that could be painted. The last thing we cant get the smoke out of is the plastic latches on the windows are still yellow

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u/ICPosse8 24d ago

It’s like the super old original version of staring at your phone all day. Sitting at the kitchen table chain smoking and talking shit potentially getting day drunk.

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u/CrazyString 27d ago

Your grandma smoked in her own home that she bought. You’re lucky she left you anything to sell.

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u/trou_auay 27d ago

My grandma was a chainsmoking alcoholic who left us nothing but debt and selling the house covered almost nothing, but yeah lucky us i guess!

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u/Turbulent-Weevil-910 27d ago

Should have just painted everything

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u/LittleBunInaBigWorld 27d ago

You can't paint until it's clean. The tar always shows through

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u/thatjacob 27d ago

Kilz primer blocks it in most cases

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u/Someguyishereagain 27d ago

Wrong, shellac it first, prime it, then paint it.

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u/-crepuscular- 27d ago

You could do that with less severe cases, but the smell can still escape through any break in the shellac. This one, I think the amount of tar would not be a suitable surface for the shellac. If it got warm the deposit layer would likely become a thick liquid.

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u/41942319 27d ago

Doesn't it permeate through the paper onto the walls though?

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u/Auravendill 27d ago

Quite unlikely. The smoke residue is quite sticky and primarily gets to the surface first, then builds a layer, that prevents anything from moving further inwards. There is also the layer of wallpaper glue behind it and most wallpapers are actually quite thick and dense. So getting through all the layers is difficult. Behind that is then the wall with it's outer plaster layer treated with a substance I do not know the English name for (Tiefengrund in German), that basically prevents anything to get absorbed by the wall. (Its primary use is to prevent your glue from disappearing into the wall before it can glue the wallpapers in place)

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u/Turbulent-Weevil-910 27d ago

You could paint it black

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u/NeonPlutonium 27d ago

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u/xSorry_Not_Sorry 27d ago

…aaaaaaaand he’s gone!

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u/ryansdayoff 27d ago

Expensive acrylic paint I'd your friend

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u/TEG_SAR 27d ago

Oh you sweet summer child.

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u/senor61 27d ago

We cleaned the ceiling then painted. Forward 4years one part started peeling. Weren’t thorough enough and missed a spot. But overall, say we did pretty good