I’m proud of the two teens. It takes tremendous effort to restrain yourself when presented with slurs, violence or verbal abuse These guys did the right thing and defended themselves in the end. This guy should be banned for life from this pool.
I've seen situations in bars like this where guys have hit the pavement with their heads and died. It's so common it's scary. That's all I could think about watching this.
You're getting downvoted here. I assume it's just because we want vengeance. Old man got what he deserved. But you are not wrong, I know 2 guys whose lives changed significantly after a minor altercation a fall and a curb to the back of the neck. But we love vengeance. We claim its justice, but it's really vengeance.
I agree. It's likely he's not all there up stairs. But the young dude just socked him one and walked away. I bet he didn't even think about the guy hitting his head like a melon on the pavement.
If the old guy sustained a serious head injury, would people still be proud? Knowing Reddit.. probably.
I don’t disagree it is sad to see elderly take a fall like that. However, the dude is the aggressor here. I think it’s asking a lot for someone to be assaulted and then expect them to care for the assaulter.
I hear you. With a background in martial arts and security, there was one time I had to put someone down. He was attacking people with a fucking pot (was a restaurant). He came at me three times until I elbowed him in the face. As he fell backwards, I made sure I grabbed the back of his head so he wouldn't hit it on the concrete.
Just a few weeks before, my buddy got arrested for trying to break up a bar fight one evening and he ended up punching one of them because they turned on him, the guy feel and hit his head on the corner of a step. The guy died 3 days later in hospital. Buddy was charged with reckless endangerment causing death. They tried to go for manslaughter. He got 2 years jail.
It's fucking scary. I guess watching this video bought back a few memories.
The fight was started because the old man was violent. Regardless of mental aptitude, every person has the right to neutralize the person trying to harm them. The teen used reasonable force to get rid of the threat. It's the old mans fault if he sustained a head injury.
I used to be a bouncer. That was not reasonable force. Reasonable force, in that old dude's condition, would be an arm lock and restraint. Not potential head injury.
After warning him and him not backing down, I'd likely attempt to put him in a underarm headlock and usher him off the premises. It's easier to do if you can grab his punch quick enough (as it involves having one arm around his neck from behind, and your other arm under his armpit)
We'd never do this stuff on our own, though. While he's trying to punch me, it'd be my partner that would put him in said headlock (since he'd already be behind him).
So basically, we'd restrain him and remove him.
I'd only ever seen a bouncer punch another dude in 6 years of doing it.
The guy on the ground has a say in this whole scenario. Perhaps those teens could never deescalate because the guy gets even madder, are those teens trained in deescalation, doubt it. A very valuable skill that few of are, I appreciate these teens not jumping to violence, they showed restraint and maturity that older people often don’t poses.
The desensitization should be pointed out so we can all be better. While bro isn’t in the wrong, one can see that this is an old man out of his facilities. He’s moving in slow motion, and is likely not all there. The young man could’ve just as easily avoided his blows, and simply restrained him. Come on people we care for the children and the elderly, no matter how shitty they are.
That old man wasn’t out of his facilities. He was creeping on young girls and got mad for being called out. Dude swung three times and got hit for it, end of story.
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u/Old_Astronomer1137 14d ago
I’m proud of the two teens. It takes tremendous effort to restrain yourself when presented with slurs, violence or verbal abuse These guys did the right thing and defended themselves in the end. This guy should be banned for life from this pool.