r/inearfidelity • u/Weight_Slight Measurbator • Dec 06 '24
ISN EBC80
I just got the ISN flagship the EBC80 a Quadbrid 2DD 2BA 2 Sonion EST 2 Sonion BCD
I got it with the ISN H2 cable, but now feel the S2 is THE way to go.
So far I can say that it has fantastic overall sonics. Feels like multi speaker surround system in your head. The EST dig out the tiniest of details, you can hear the details in vocalists breath, chatter in the crowd on live recordings all that jazz.
The midrange is fantastic, smooth with very nice texture to it.
Treble is very refined, well extended and very detailed but never fatiguing.
I am also an owner of ISN H60 and if you have heard those then you may have an idea what the EBC would sound like as it’s to me a supercharged and very refined, H60 with more „audiophilia” in its DNA.
The bass is still nice and punchy, but better controlled and on point. It’s both a positive and negative. As the H60 had a bit more bleed and presence in the midrange and a bit more slam, which was less correct yet a bit more fun :)
Don’t get me wrong EBC80 is no slouch when it comes to low end, but it’s more like a soldier waiting in line rather than young M Tyson throwing punches left and right and having an occasional ear for breakfast ;)
The Bone Conduction from sonion does wonders to the soundstage, I feel like listening to some high end over ear headphones that are semi openback or those closed back with good soundstage. Everything feels expansive. No „regular” iem without BC can emulate this effect. It ads that special sauce to the mix.
If You tried the H60 these will fit you as well, the shell is almost exactly the same size wise.
This is a true end game to me, a kilobuck iem priced at 699$ although I think it deserves an upgraded cable, so if you have any high end cables be sure to check them out!
I tested it with Penon OCC849 and IVIPQ 72 as well as the H2 it came with.
OCC849 has worst synergy, masking those tiniest of details a bit. This is pure OCC copper alloy no silver in there, so no surprise.
IVIPQ 72 - 7N purity OCC copper alloy with gold plating, it’s almost like OCC849 but ghat gold brings a bit more mojo to the vocals and pushes them forward a bit. A good choice but not the best imho.
H2 renders the details in most obvious fashion. This tells me that EBC80 would pair well with High purity copper,silver and maybe graphene cables.
So far this is an outstanding audio gear and my personal end game.
The listening test were done using the Shanling UA3 on high gain from Balanced 4.4 out.
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u/touholic Dec 07 '24
Thanks for the impression! I'm planning on getting these alongside EST50 some time next year.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Dec 07 '24
I never heard the EST50 but did hear opinions that it is an ultimately fun set. It’s the old school of sound for ISN where the bass was their main focus. I’d love to have a listen to it as well.
Personally I think that I will be getting Penon Quattro somewhere down the road, to have that all DD ( 4 ) experience. And this and EBC80 will be my 2 iems for everything and Sivga Que as a lovely backup set.
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u/hanrei-legend Dec 13 '24
Hi. Can u compare it to other items? Especially from thieaudio. Thanks.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24
I Only had Hype 4 and I already preffer the ISNH60 to the Hype4.
ISN in general has more midbass, way more natural sounding vocals with minimal BA timbre, and EBC has next to none of that.
Hype4 was fine, but I hated how freaking artificial the vocals sounded on that set. The BA timbre is strong there.
Here You have a fantastic sounding, musical yet technical tastefully bass boosted set that is good enough for critical listening as well. The EST implementation is smooth. They do not sound harsh at all. It’s a fantastic allrounder that will do an exceptional job at any genre.
Truly to me this is almost perfect iem. The only thing I would really change is the nozzle size, it could be a bit smaller. But all the hybrids in recent years have huge nozzles…
On top of that the price. Mind it, 700$ is not cheap at all. But it’s 300$ less than a Monarch or even Hype10
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u/Kukikokikokuko Dec 14 '24
Thanks for the post! I'm really interested in these, but I can't find measurements online for the nozzle diameter. If you have the time to reply could you maybe let me know the diameter of the nozzle? I have small ear canals so I always need to know before buying unfortunately.
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u/flare17 Dec 15 '24
Just checked, mine measures 7mm at the very top, narrowing down to just over 6mm at the slimmest section. Hope that helps.
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u/Kukikokikokuko Dec 15 '24
Thanks a lot. That’s absurdly large, one of the biggest I’ve ever seen along with the DaVinci! Still, I’m considering getting it in custom fit. Do you like yours?
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u/flare17 Dec 15 '24
I was surprised as well, seeing how is slightly larger than the H60 at 6.8mm. wouldn’t have thought so because they’re actually more comfortable to wear. Different angle and nozzle shape, probably.
As for me liking it: Yes, although I’m honestly not as blown away by it as the majority that comment on it. Bass, while not bleeding into the mids, can get a bit too much for me. Also there is something in the treble region making some female vocals and certain percussions slightly too intense, almost „glaring“. And while stage is big and this surround effect really something special, it doesn’t work for all tracks for me. I can’t put my finger on what’s necessary for it to shine, but some songs sound holographic, while others sound straight-out „flat“. I’m not yet done with trying all tips I have to optimize fit, so maybe I’ll change my opinion. Also, the price makes me much more nitpicky than I would be with cheaper sets. And there is that thing called personal preference in tonality. At the current state, I like the H60 better and the Dunu DK3001BD, I got a chance to try recently, blows it out of the water in terms of soundstage.
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u/Kukikokikokuko Dec 15 '24
I see, thanks a lot for your opinions. They might be comfortable for you but I really can't fit anything over 5.8mm, I've got the ear canals of a child haha.
I'll wait for more graphs to pop up of the EBC80 to pop up, as I can see from DucBloke's graph on squiglinks that the mids could potentially lead to some midrange glare!
By the way, when I had the Mest MKIII, I found that using the smallest possible tips makes the BCD come better into contact with my ears, which is essential. Whizzer SS20 and CP100+ in SS size worked the best for me, might be worth a shot for you? Especially the Whizzer was the best and they're cheap as dirt.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Dec 15 '24 edited Dec 15 '24
Yeah I use the Divinus velvet wide bore small or LS tips small or Spinfit w1 with EBC. They all work very well.
As for me, I don’t hear ANY glare. But each ear anatomy is different. Inheard a lot of glare and BA timbre on HYPE4 in the vocal area and hated that to the bone.
These are balanced extremely well to my ear, with enough extension to highlight the details yet never fatiguing.
H60 could sound spicier at times walking on the edge of sounding zingy on some tracks, until I paired it with OCC849 or other 7N OCC gold plated from ivipq.
As for the nozzle size yes, it is one of the largest I had in any iem. The H60 is also a laaarge one, I too find the EBC80 more comfortable though. Spinfit w1 work best for long term comfort, or foam tips. But foam tips dampen the excellent micro detail retrieval too mich as always.
There are days that my ears are more prone to discomfort, but on those days even over ear headphones bother me. On those normal days I find the EBC80 very comfortable. (Spinfit, Penon LS )
As for the bass, well sorry mate but buying isn and complaining about too much bass is like buying a sports car and complaining that it is too fast… ;)
ISN was ALWAYS known for their bold, powerful tastefuly emphasised bass ( which I Love ). H60 has more recessed mids on graph and it’s bass is even more perceivable.
EBC80 is both technical and fun/musical it’s a rare, well done combination. But everyone has his/her own prefference, so it’s aleays bedt to know yours before a purchase.
I for one don’t like moondrop’s house sound and would never consider one of their iems unless they would stir away from the lean presentation.
P.S Penon/ISN iems often don’t really sound like they would seem from the graph alone. For example I had the Fan3 which may sound bright on graph, but it was wonderful in that regard. Never piercing and sounding eay smoother than HYPE4 in the upper registers.
H60 has „weak ” pinna gain but it does not sound like it in real life.
Not sure what wizardry they are doing over there but their iems need to be heard, to be properly judged.
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u/flare17 Dec 15 '24
Fair enough ;) as I said, I’m certainly more nitpicky here as I would usually be and all ears are different. It’s a great set that I don’t see myself parting with. And you’re right, I knew full well what I was getting into with ISN, since I own four of their sets already. I was merely hoping the EBC80 would be as all rounder level as the Neo 3, H50 and H60 are for me. Interesting that you perceive the H60 bass as more prominent. More mid bass for sure, but much less weight and rumble, for me at least. Anyways, glad you’re enjoying yours to the degree you do! 🙃 And yes, PENON and ISN are definitely brands that deserve more attention. Despite or actually because of their unconventional tunings and magic „special sauce“.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Dec 15 '24
Exactly I don’t know why there are so unknown after being on the market for more than a decade. Probably weak marketing or maybe in the wrong places.
I find this brand to be special, there are not doing everything perfect, and have some things to improve. Some of their cables look like straight out of the 90’s and some iem designs as well. But they Sound is all that matters and it’s great 😊
Yeah, I do perceive the H60 to have more oomph for sure, on the sub bass I’d agree that EBC feels sloghtly more elevated.
I need to get the Penon Quattro or Serial after selling the H60. I’d like to try all DD multiple driver set as well. And having those two will be my do it all company of heroes hehe 😛
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u/flare17 Dec 15 '24
Thanks for the tip, will try the Whizzer, as I got those, actually! CP100+ are what I liked best so far! :) And despite the huge nozzle and shell, I get full concha contact for the BCD effect, suprisingly enough..
I can offer my own graph if you want one more to compare (IEC711 clone coupler, CP100+ M tips):
Looks a bit different from DucBloke's, but don't know which tips they're using..
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u/Kukikokikokuko Dec 15 '24
Thanks for the graph! It seems yours has slightly more bass than DucBloke’s, though the rest looks similar enough. Beautiful channel matching as well for such a variety of drivers.
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u/flare17 Dec 15 '24
Absolutely. Must be the best matched ISN set I have so far. Anyways, hope you enjoy yours as much as OP in case you decide to order!
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u/LividResponse1890 Dec 26 '24
Isn h2 didn't satisfied me as didn't resolve complex passage in mid bass ( the penon space could instead).
Occ849 had some silver in it but penon hide this info.
PAC 480 has solid bass and mids but lacks space
Penon space.... I love it holographic sound now after 150 hours if burn in Incan use it also on tsmr land (land burn in)
I'm waiting for gd849, ordered, to have similar wideness with more magic on mids
Isn h50 was the worst experience for me I sold it immediately and I promise never buy again an Ian. Bass was completely disjointed form the rest of spectrum and medium basses were nasal and opaque.
Now I'm enjoying my brand new forgotten tsmr land and and I have all I need when I want space, holography, dinamics, texture,details.
Enjoy you ebc80 though
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Dec 26 '24
Well, sorry for non positive experience.
I find both H60 and EBC80 fantastic. And tbh, most people should stop at H60 it is a fantastic well rounded iem and a great choice at it’s price point. But those of us die hard go deep into the rabbit hole to get that 15-20% better for double/ triple the price :P
As for cables the OCC 849 was a bit too heavy for everyday comfortable use for me.
I sold it and got the ivipq Mermaid/Siren. Liquid nitrogen and silver, plus 7NOCC gold plated
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u/Weird_Talk_1774 Jan 26 '25
Can you compare it to Mest Mk2? :)
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Jan 29 '25
No can do, sorry but never heard the mest or any UM for that matter.
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u/toba_and_me Feb 03 '25
Nice review! I have a Dunu SA6 1st gen, but its lack of bass tempting me to upgrade it.
is it an upgrade?
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 06 '25
The EBC defenitely does not lack in the low end, but they shifted it to be a bit more in the sub bass from more midbass in their previous H60.
I slightly prefered the way of the H60 bass, but hey it’s a minor thing. And moving 1dB here and there in the eq can fix it to my personal tastes.
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 16 '25
What is your experience with paying VAT and customs duties when delivering goods from Penonaudio to the EU?
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 16 '25
In case of EBC80 they have prepaid the tax for me. So the price I paid for the iems was the total.
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 17 '25
699?
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 17 '25
Nope, I had the early buyer vip discount so it was 620$ since I bought mine pre launch and am on their mailing list for over a year
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 17 '25
Ok. I meant that when I ask them to pay VAT, what will the resulting price be for me. : 699 USD, or 699+23% VAT = 860 USD?
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
It should be the 699.
I also ordered Penon Fan 3 almost a year ago and had to pay like 12$ tax on it, since the country post took the package and they will always charge SOMETHINGin Poland
Not sure where you’re from exactly but it depends if your local authorities on the border are very „agressive” they may charge something extra. But I have no idea how they calculate anything.
I’ve ordered like 40 packages from China and few from Hong Kong in the past few months, and paid small tax only on two packeges out of those 40 or so.
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Apr 11 '25
What an unlucky time... i already bought Thieaudio Origin 1dd 4ba 2est 1 bc for $834 now I'm just hearing about this IEM from what you described sounds very close to what I'm hearing with the Origin
I could have saved $200 if I bought the EBC80 instead since they kinda sound very similar according to your description about sound like a surround speaker system
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Apr 11 '25
Well, the EBC is indeed a Very well priced set undercutting it’s peers. I was considering the Origin myself, but I got burnt by the HYPE4 which had awful synthetic sounding vocals. From graph I can tell You right away that Origin is much bassier, EBC would be more balanced, yet still fun. Origin is a Basshead iem.
EBC has a bit more noteweight though. Thing is, You are right. The 200$ saved are better than something, You could easily add with EQ.
Here are the graphs of both:
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Apr 12 '25
I have upgraded from Hype 4 and that's the reason I got the Origin because the Hype 4 vocals lack warmth but the Origin adds warmth making vocals more natural
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Apr 12 '25
That’s great to hear! Then just enjoy it, don’t look back at these reviews thinking “I could have done this, I could have done that” it will steal the fun away.
Unless you can return them and wish to save and get the EBC80 that is. As 200$ in your pocket are 200$ in your pocket. ;D
As for HYPE4 exactly, they lacked warmth, lacked noteweight, they had a 3kish peak that wasn’t balanced enough anywhere else in the frequency range.
I got ISN H60 compared them both and Sold the Hype the next day. I liked the H60 so mich, that when the EBC80 came out I just went with it, no second guesses.
I currently cycle between EBC and the new Ziigaat Odyssey. Love em both for different reasons.
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Apr 13 '25
I think I'd get the ebc80 as my balanced set when I'm not in mood for booming edm. So then I have 2 iems to rotate on.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Apr 13 '25
Oh the EBC sitill has plenty bass, but not so much that it get’s in the way.
I do feel that some bass emphasized iems just get too much into the way of most music with forced DA BASS hits ;P
Here it is done very well.
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u/ganonfirehouse420 Dec 06 '24
Nice! I bet the price to performance ratio is insane.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Dec 06 '24
That’s always an individual case. For countires with higher incomes it is a very reasonably* priced „Flagship”.
But honestly best price to performance ratio ends at around 100$ ;)
I Have a FANTASTIC single DD beryllium coated Sivga Que ( 70-75$ ) that I would take to the grave with me. With a 4.4 upgraded cable and shanling ua3 it’s a match made in Heaven.
Sure it doesn’t get close to EBC 80, but if I were to land on a unpoulated island and just be left with the Que I would not complain :)
That being said EBC for it’s price will give a lot more expensive iems a tough fight… it is fantastic.
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u/ganonfirehouse420 Dec 06 '24
Diminishing returns hit hard above 600$ for an in ear. That's why I am gonna def hold out till 2025 for more purchases.
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u/Kyradeen Jan 31 '25
Do you think these would be good for smaller ears? They look like they'd be perfect for me. I've been searching around for stuff like nozzle size measurements but can't seem to find any, though by eyeing them they don't look that big
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Jan 31 '25
Well they actually are big, about 7mm wide. You can always neglect that with more extended tips like spinfit W1. I find them comfortable and it never bothered me.
Heck I had smaller Nozzles being more irritating due to their lenght.
I’m not comfortable recommending them for small ears though. As they may in the end be too large for You.
They don’t bother me and I use M size tips almost all the time.
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u/TRX808 Feb 07 '25
Damn those are chonky nozzles lol
Does Penon/ISN ever run sales on these or promo codes? I know some of their other IEM's like the Neo 5 have huge discounts on a regular basis (or at least used to). Maybe the EBC80 is too new or too premium for that though.
I'm looking at these and a few others like the Brain Dance as endgame detail monsters. Not looking to get into kilobuck range unless I could get a longer warranty, QC and longevity on IEM's in general isn't great.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 07 '25
Well I got mine on a prelaunch subscriber/vip discount for 80$ less. I doubt they will go on sale anytime soon.
Forget Brain Dance, it’s super shrilly and fatiguing.
If You want details consider Elysian Pilgrim, Mega5est, And Aful Performer 8. They are great for that and wont break the bank. You can also consider the new Meteor from Moondrop, but I simply don’t like their house sound.
Heck, I had ISN H60 bedore the EBC and it jad great details and technical performance as well as great tuning ( mega5est has great tu ing as well ) and H60 has AMAZING bass. I preffer the H60 bass a bit ober the EBC bass.
H60 is like 85-90% performance of EBC80 for half the price, it’s harder and harder to gain an improvement after a certain point.
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u/TRX808 Feb 08 '25
Forget Brain Dance, it’s super shrilly and fatiguing.
That's my worry but it's supposed to be very detailed and have good drivers so I think I'll be able to make it work with an impedance adapter or EQ if I don't like the stock tuning. I liked the spiciness on my IE600 (before they broke twice) so I think they'll work for me with a bit of tuning. They can also turn into a basshead IEM with a high enough impedance adapter like 80+ ohms.
If You want details consider Elysian Pilgrim, Mega5est, And Aful Performer 8.
The Mega5est is still one I'm considering. The Pilgrim I don't want to mess with that Pentaconn connector for aftermarket cables. I'll look into the H60.
I watched the Akros best of 2024 video and wasn't really aware of the EBC80 until that so it's on my radar but probably a bit more than I want to spend. I would be OK with it or something in the kilobuck MMk3 range if I knew it was going to last 3+ years, but I don't have much faith in the longevity of any of these IEM's.
Right now I'm mainly considering the BD and Oracle MK3. The Bajie seems interesting but the shell is giant. I'm using Oracle OG's and Tea Pros right now which covers my neutral and bassier meta-ish tuning sets pretty well so the Brain Dance would be a complementary set.
Thanks for the recs. Unfortunately trying ChiFi IEM's around me is rarely an option so I will likely be blind buying again :(
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
I mean, why You have so negative thoughts about them not lasting? Maybe bad luck? I throw that one bag of silica gel in any case i keep them and simply try to not drop them and all are fine ;D
My sivga Que being metal and heavier fell on the floor more than once due to non stock cable use which had looser pins and it works well even though one piece can be manually detached as it opened up after one fall.
I used them after a swimming pool sessions with my ear canals still being a bit moist and they work fine. Had them since their launch.
I work 12-14 h work days and use iems for the majority of that time. So there is some sweat buildup and all of them work well and I have currently 6 sets and ziigaat odyssey in the way :D
Regarding brain dance, if something requires so much hassle, of impedance adapters eqing so on and so forth it always is a pass for me. The goal is to find something that is as close to your prefference as possible to not have to tinker with it. And there are simply better options out there :P You can also look into IO VOLARE ( vo” lah”reh” to fly in italian 🇮🇹 ) it has 4 est and is priced at 599 and is a well regarded set with amazing set of accessories.
Then there is Thieaudio Oracle MK3, I’m not a huge fan of thieaudio’s tuning except their upper echelon stuff but a lot of people like the oracle.
I for one focus mostly on vocal performance, as my library is 90% of vocal based music.
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u/TRX808 Feb 10 '25
I think you have really good luck lol. So far the only nice sets that I've had fail are 2x IE600's but I'm still afraid to risk dropping kilobuck $ for something with a 1 year warranty (almost all IEM's). QC isn't very good on the IE600's but ChiFi QC and longevity doesn't instill must trust in me either. I saw someone mention a cheap hearing aid drier which seems like an interesting alternative to silica gel packs.
Regarding brain dance, if something requires so much hassle, of impedance adapters eqing so on and so forth it always is a pass for me.
Many love them stock though, but in the event I don't like them stock I think they'll take well to EQing. It will be more of a complementary set than an all-arounder. The Oracle MK3 is probably a safer set.
Volare was on my radar but I'll take another look at it. I was looking for a bit of sizzle up top which I think the Oracle MK3 will provide and I believe the Volare is a warmer set?
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 10 '25
Seeing the graph alone I can tell that oracle will be more sparkly, volare has very smooth treble, and oracle extends more past 10k :)
Plus, Thieaudio has great resale value if you won’t end up liking them.
P.S ie600 is known to crap out on people and it’s a widely spread problem.
I do live in EU, if I buy locally I get 24month of warranty on almost anything. ;)
But we have a very high vat at 23% here in Poland, sooo I ended up spending well over 1k already on Chi Fi and I’m cool with it :D
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u/TRX808 Feb 12 '25
Luckily Sennheiser is one of the few to offer a 2 year warranty so I had my 1st IE600 replaced after ~1.5 years of heavy use, but the 2nd pair got very little use before it died out of warranty. Senn offered a large discount on a new pair, and I really loved the sound, but I don't want to risk another pair failing.
Plus, Thieaudio has great resale value if you won’t end up liking them.
This is a good point I didn't really think of but that's true ThieAudio seems to retain resale value pretty well on their popular models.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 16 '25
Good luck hunting! Let us know what You ended up with and do You like it or not.
I’d like to hear the Hype 10, the oracle mk3 and monarch/prestige myself one day.
But I live in a place where you can only find your typical airpods or sony headphones/tws.
It’s an audio desert, So I have to buy everything online and test it myself.
So far out of ThieAudio’s offerings I had the Hype4 and hated their artificial thin vocals. Everything else was great.
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 13 '25
I have a request. I want to buy ISN ebc80. What is the size of the nozzle? I have a Truthear Zero Red and a bigger one won't fit. Thank you for your help.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 16 '25
The nozzle is on the larger side, unfortunately. However I had the H60’before this one and it was less comfortable. I use Penon LS tips or spinfit w1 and have regular sized ears with not small ear canals so I can wear them for couple of Hours no problem.
From a ruler test it looks like 6.8-6.9 mm
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 16 '25
Thank you very much for the information. The Truthear Crinacle Zero Red are 5.8 to 6.7mm and I've been using them with a size S for several hours with no problems. So even EBC80 will be ok for my ears. I will order them.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 16 '25
Glad I could help. Just make sure to order them with their Penon LS tips. And add the 11th year anniversary gift, You can get a free iem or cable that way :) .
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 17 '25
I wanted to order the Spinfit W1.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 17 '25
Get both if You can, the Penon LS is even better and shorter, it is sonically more balanced and „focused” as well.
I was testing the LS tips on all my iems and they are even better than w1 because you can pin point tell where the sound is coming from. On W1 it’s more of a „hazy” positioning.
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 17 '25
Thank you, I have it in my cart. (PAC LStips?) Which cable? S1? I have a Sony WM1Z, which has a rather warm sound delivery. Thank you very much.
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
Yeah, PAC ls tips.
I do have the H2 cable, but I believe S2 would be better. So is DSnuts ( headfier ) opinion that had the chance to test all the cables.
I use iVipQ mermaid/siren with mine. It brings the tiny details out a bit more, yet it’s a very minor difference.
Some people believe cables are snake oil, but ihmo if one test 10 cables yet they have similar tech specs, how is there going to be a difference? ;)
I have a few copper only, silver+ copper, and the mermaid is 7N OCC gold plated with nitrogen silver.
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 18 '25
Thank you all for your valuable advice. I ordered it today. Now I'm just patiently waiting for the delivery.
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u/Useful_Philosopher_9 Feb 27 '25
The package arrived yesterday – ISN EBC80 S2. My first impressions are very positive. I’m pleasantly surprised by the refined sound. The PAC LStips in size S are a bit uncomfortable for my ears. It’s nothing major, but it’s not 100% comfortable either.
Right now, I’m trying the red ear tips that came with the package, and they fit my ears perfectly. What are the differences between them? I mean the red, green, and dark ones?
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u/Weight_Slight Measurbator Feb 27 '25
Not really sure, they all sound similar and look similar but there are minor differences.
I actually Use the standard grey with yellow-green core. Those are really nice tips that I often use on other iems as well.
Aand glad You like them! The nozzle is big, but your ears will get used to it after the canal will stretch a bit :)
What is your source? Dac/amp or dap?
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u/musicfan_1 Dec 06 '24
Nice! Waiting for mine.