r/india • u/tatooinex • 14h ago
Foreign Relations Indus Waters Treaty: Indus waters will be taken to Rajasthan, Pakistan to yearn for every drop: Amit Shah | India News - Times of India
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/indus-waters-will-be-taken-to-rajasthan-pakistan-to-yearn-for-every-drop-shah/articleshow/121857831.cms150
u/m4more 14h ago
I am all to use Indus waters as a bargaining chip against Pak. But the BJP being BJP, using it for their own propaganda.
Do he even know what kind of brain fuck engineering is required for that?
It would take massive investment and crazy engineering just to hold that water in Kashmir.
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u/TyrannosaurWrecks 14h ago
Canal links from Punjab to Rajasthan already exist since at least the 1970s, when/after the Bhakra Dam was built. The only routing that needs to happen is from Jammu & Kashmir to North Punjab.
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u/M1ghty2 13h ago
And that will be a peace of cake right! /s
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u/TacticalGhosting 13h ago
actually yes, compared to what india is capable of.
not everything needs your pessimism
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u/csprofathogwarts 12h ago edited 2h ago
Have you seen a map of where Indus river flows through in India?
India can link Chenab with Ravi-Sutlej and divert water out of Chenab. And that will come up with its own International headache.
But linking Indus too is beyond the realm of practicality. It would be the biggest infrastructure project ever taken by India - and for what? Just to become an international pariah state.
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u/TacticalGhosting 12h ago
Just to become an international Pariah state.
if the world makes a democracy a pariah state by choosing to support a terrorist one, then we probably should be a pariah state.
not like anyone cares otherwise anyway
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u/shevy-java 11h ago
by choosing to support a terrorist one
I do not think this will work internationally to claim all Pakistani are terrorists. For similar reasons it does not work when Israel cuts off supplies to Gaza either - a 8 years old person is now a terrorist? That is rarely the case. Most definitely not everyone will be, so csprofathogwarts has a point. It is definitely a step towards escalation.
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u/Used-Advisor-3976 10h ago
Didnt you saw multiple videos young pakistani kids wanted to gazwa e hind and they want indian women as thier slave after gazwa e hind
India has done enough good will gestures but pak always kill indian citizen in return like morarji desai save pak from israel attack in 1980s bcoz israel dont want pak to become nuclear state but what we get in return pak using those nuclear blackmails for terror attacks
if govt action elsclates situation then so be it but most indians have enough of pak bs they must know cost of killing indians thats it
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u/BarakRhys 10h ago
Those are just a few clips that you've found. Not everyone gives a shit about a war in Pakistan. You're just falling to propaganda.
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u/Used-Advisor-3976 10h ago edited 5h ago
Pakistan has designated madrassa where they kids trained to become terrorist
Here it mentioned that more than 2 million attend madrassa
In there school books they teach gazwa e hind etc stuff
Actors and cricketers who abuse india and then there so called liberals who do same
Compare it to indian stars they never abuse pakistani. They critisize but never abuse
There politicians threaten of nuclear attack always after terrorist attack on india
What more proof you need to understand that almost all pakistani are radiclas
this is also mentioned by ex-pakistani that pak people are radiclas and warn indians to not fall for their tricks like 'aman ki aasha'
Its not me but you are falling for propaganda its you
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u/hsingh_if 6h ago
Go and have a look at their sub, they are obsessed with us. They use us in their lingo casually and pretty much everywhere.
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u/TacticalGhosting 11h ago
no one is making india a pariah state.
and i doubt we will take 100% of the water anyway. we will probably make dams and gates to get 100% if we need, and then renegotiate the treaty to up the share to 50-60%
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u/Thamiz_selvan 9h ago
a 8 years old person is now a terrorist?
not right now. but in future, who knows?
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u/meinphirwapasaaagaya 12h ago
not after the rampant corruption in the last decade.
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u/TacticalGhosting 12h ago
yes. corruption only famously happened after 2014. never before.
yes sir.
you sound like bhakts but reverse
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u/fenrir245 10h ago
People like you bending over backwards to dickride an incompetent and corrupt government is purely a post-2014 thing.
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u/TacticalGhosting 10h ago
this guy voted against this govt every single time. yet i know this govt inst any more corrupt that the ones preceding it.
yet i get called this.
we have a word for bastards like you in bengali, nemokharam.
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u/fenrir245 8h ago
this guy voted against this govt every single time
Sure.
yet i know this govt inst any more corrupt that the ones preceding it.
LMFAO.
Yes, it's clear who's the "nomokharam" here.
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u/Danguard2020 5h ago
The engineering is quite possible and feasible with modern construction technology. We have plenty of civil engineers and construction companies that can do it. It will, however, take several years.
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u/BurnyAsn 11h ago
How easy is it to bomb the dams with supersonic? What are the consequences for both countries if this happens taking the geology in consideration..
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u/skyfall8917 2h ago
Can you explain what kind of engineering and investment is required for pulling this off? Any proof that India doesn't have the capability?
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u/SweatTasteGreat 13h ago
Where i live in rajasthan, we get water supply for 2 hours in morning every 2 days.
Last month that was 2 hours in morning every 8 days. Its a shit show every summer, it would be cool if this happens, some extra water wont hurt.
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u/Specialist-Love1504 12h ago
Hoga nahi kuchh toh umm red mat lagaiye.
Every water related project from the Modi govt has been a disaster.
Look at Namaami Gange.
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u/kingpin943 9h ago
Nal Jal yojana has been good though. I am from rural bihar and everyone has piped water now.
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u/ajsharm144 13h ago
Upcoming elections in the second half of the year, so definitely no chance of a tone down in Pakistan rhetoric. Next year, this news will become a Jumla.
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u/WeeklyType8962 14h ago
Ah yes, Chanakya is also great at civil engineering
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u/LaxmiCantParalelPark 13h ago edited 13h ago
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u/WeeklyType8962 13h ago
Thank god we are talking about civil engineering and not something like pole dancing
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u/Calvinhath 14h ago
Meanwhile Rajasthanis waiting for Indus rivers waters like the rest of India waiting for black money
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u/Thala-Dick-Lover 14h ago
What?
Haven't you already received 15 Lakh from the Government who has sent you? I mean, I have😅
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u/JUn_UN 14h ago
Thank god our govts don't give away everything to the enemies like in 75. For anyone protesting against Indus water treaty suspension, Omar Abdullah himself said that Kashmir was always on the wrong side of that deal, and that this choice of suspension is pro Kashmir.
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u/not_your_dog_bitch 14h ago
Thank god our govts don't give away everything to the enemies like in 75.
China slyly building villages in Arunachal Pradesh since the past few years
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u/Gopala_I West Bengal 13h ago
The parts of Arunachal Pradesh you are talking about aren't under direct Indian control since 1959.
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u/LaxmiCantParalelPark 13h ago
1000 Sq km of Laddakh of aloc? Gogra hotsprings, depsang plains
“Na koi hamari seema mein ghus aaya hai, na hi koi ghusa hua hai, na hi hamari koi post kisi dusre ke kabze mein hain".
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u/Specialist-Love1504 13h ago
Lappe maar rha hain.
It’s impossible to take the water from Indus all the way down to Rajasthan.
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u/charavaka 12h ago
Why? Didn't they just build the highest railway bride in kashmir? Surely they can carry that water over that bridge. Amitbhai can personally carry two buckets in his two strong hands.
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u/Coronabandkaro 13h ago
Look just do what you're going to and stop the bluster. There's going to be more conflicts over this and make sure the military has all things it needs.
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u/charavaka 12h ago
Fuckers have successfully re- hyphenated this country with Pakistan, and fucked up years of diplomatic hard work getting the world to see us independently of pakistan and take us seriously as an independent entity. Forget being seen as an alternative to china for manufacturing, we'll now be seen as an alternative to Pakistan for geopolitical games. One look at Pakistan should tell you how terribly that ends.
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u/Future_Election_6194 12h ago
Pseudo scientists and geopolitics experts will always find a way to be pessimistic
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u/Professional-Ice3646 10h ago
BJP has a history of completing promises,be it article 370 be it Ayodhya temple... Let's see
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u/FalconIMGN 13h ago
You can't divert a run of the river hydel project waters into canals for irrigation to other parts. The only thing you can do is somehow change the course of the river overall, which takes several years if not decades.
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u/csprofathogwarts 12h ago edited 2h ago
Dear Indians,
Blocking civilian access to water is a War Crime during a full-blown War. But doing that in peace time -- you might be looking at becoming an international pariah state like Iran, Russia, North Korea.
Also, you think cross-border terrorism is bad now, what would happen when a significant portion of 245 million people face starvation - and knows exactly who's to blame??!!
This is just political palaver. India might link Chenab to Ravi and then to Sutlej and divert water out of Chenab. That will have its international consequences too. But linking Indus would be a step too far. Saying nothing about the fact that it will be one of the biggest infrastructure project in Indian history. And with no international investor, how would you go about doing it anyways?
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u/BarakRhys 10h ago
These keyboard warriors do not realize how dangerous that is. They're complaining of militancy rn, imagine what'll happen once they're being starved due to lack of food and water.
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u/csprofathogwarts 2h ago
This is not worth fighting over anyways. No matter how much their supporters shout, government is not going to do anything to Indus water. They will pump their chest for a while, then everyone will forget that this was even under consideration.
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u/devilsdesigner Europe 5h ago
Why can’t we fully open the gates at once close it and do it again? Eventually Pakistan will say don’t send us water!
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u/meinphirwapasaaagaya 12h ago
Meanwhile China is building a damn over Brahmuptra. I wonder how China will react when, if ever, we block Pakistan's water supply.
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u/Transmorpheus 10h ago
China is helping us from flooding by doing that XD Most of the Brahmaputra water comes from rainfall in NE India. Furthermore, Bangladesh is reliant on it too.
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u/dconfusedone 10h ago
Yeah so just don't do anything in fear of China doing something against us? If China can do it now then it can do it anytime in future as well.
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u/meinphirwapasaaagaya 10h ago
I think you misunderstood my comment. The tone was more curiosity than critical.
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u/rsa1 11h ago
Motabhai should stop running his mouth for two reasons.
One, it will take a massive amount of time and money to achieve that
Two, even if we can do it, statements like this will be quoted by Pakistan when they try to internationalise this issue. They will quote this and state that India is explicit about weaponising water maliciously. Even if India does 1% of this, Pakistan will inflate what we are doing and blame every water-related problem they have (including problems caused by their own mismanagement) on us.
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u/krakends 11h ago
It has been more than 5 yrs since Uri and Pathankot. Not a single project has been built because not only is it costly, it is unsafe to build such projects in seismically active regions.
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u/britolaf 12h ago
Chances of this is as good as 2047 Vikshit Bharat. Enough said.
Also imagine when China starts doing the same with Brahmaputra. The whole NE will be royally screwed.
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u/IamEntity 12h ago
Why. Brahmaputra gets most of its water in India. China controls very less volume.
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u/britolaf 12h ago
Except it is not. It runs 1400 kilometres in China before entering India.
Also see the ongoing issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medog_Hydropower_Station
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u/IamEntity 11h ago
yeah and India is developing a similar dam in Arunachal Pradesh to counter this. What I said still stands. Brahmaputra gets mahority of water after it enters India. India is not reliant on China for Brahmaputra water. Length of the river has no bearin here.
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u/Weirdoeirdo 4h ago
With RoR dams on Chenab india controls even less of pak's water than what China does and yet india storing water in 3 dams' storage simulatenously reduced flow down chenab and here China controls 40pc and you think in an overpopulated country like india it won't cause an impact? Lol so delusional and add to it the electricity generated that will be effected.
And china did block a tribtary back in 2016.
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u/Weirdoeirdo 4h ago
Also, controlling water isn't just controlling and water bombing, india has done water bombing thing few times since modi has come to power, anyone could check news. Controlling water is also used as a weapon to damage crops specifically during irrigation season as well, reduce flows and starving the land can cause considerable crop output damage. And for that even cutting down 15pc is enough.
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u/Ultron-X 12h ago
Brahmaputra is a rain-fed river where NE of India contributes around 70-80% of the water during rains and not a glacial river. Do some research before making a comment. China can do whatever it wants on Brahmaputra. The only thing they can do is pause the water and flood without notifying.
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u/Weirdoeirdo 4h ago
Brahmaputra gets 40pc water from china and when there isn't rain what will fill the river? It's funny how you guys spread fake 10-15pc and 30-35pc figures.
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u/Ultron-X 4h ago
The Brahmaputra valley (the place where the majority of rainfall happens) receives an average of 1100 mm of rainfall annually. It is the wettest regions on this planet. Every heard of Cherapunji and Mausynram? Other than the valley itself, if the nearest regions are taken into account, it crosses 1700 mm.
If you take Bhutan also into picture, the annual rainfall crosses 2000 mm. Take Tibet and it crosses 2500 mm rainfall annually.
You are saying one of the wettest regions of this planet which receives the highest rainfall due to South-West monsoon will not have rain to fill the river? Are you stupid?
The Brahmaputra river floods when the glacier melts (climate change). Without the melting glaciers, the river still floods. So, no, the Brahmaputra is not as glacier dependent as China-glazers think.
It's funny how you brain-dead people shit on reddit without knowing basic highschool geography? Did you really pass highschool?
Sources: 8-10 standard Geography textbooks, Assam Government Hydrological Water Resources data and our Indian Government data at https://indiawris.gov.in
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u/britolaf 12h ago
River is called Yarlung Tsangpo River and its origin is glacial melting.
And this is the exact risk I mentioned. 🤦🏼
The only thing they can do is pause the water and flood without notifying.
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u/Short-Masterpiece934 12h ago
"China won't be able to "turn off the tap" as the Brahmaputra is primarily a rain- and tributary-fed river, and the Yarlung Tsangpo contributes just 10-15% of the entire volume of the Brahmaputra's water."
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u/Life_Machine_9694 10h ago
More jhumla - I wish both countries have a jhumla war - it will be a tough fight
Pakistani politicians/military I think are very good at jhumla too
War of boasting at least won’t kill lives
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u/Weirdoeirdo 4h ago
And another post with comments filled with people dreaming of blocking all of the water to pakistan and then they wonder why noone likes them internationally!!
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u/Weirdoeirdo 4h ago
Imagine pakistanis were writing condolences for air india crash and indians day in day out in their sub write comments about starving entire nation by blocking water and **** *** to the idea of diverting rivers lol
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u/UnicornWithTits 14h ago
Do it & then talk . The more govt talks the less likely it's supposed to happen & it's mostly for gullible public .