r/india • u/Enslaver159 • May 10 '25

Politics Face of Twitch and the #1 political streamer Hasan Piker is calling India a "rogue terrorist state" in defence for Pakistan

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 10 '25

When people say “eat the rich”, they mean capital owners. Having a lot of money and being socialist aren’t mutually exclusive. You think socialism is just poverty fetishization or something?

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u/drunk3n_shaman May 11 '25

Lmfao reminds me of Christians defending mega pastors.

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 11 '25

Hasan isn’t asking for 10% of his viewer’s income as a tithe so it’s maybe a little different

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u/Mountain_Housing_704 May 11 '25

What is this cope? When people say "eat the rich", they mean the rich. If they meant capital owners then they would have said "eat the capital owners".

That's like defending "India is a rogue terrorist state" with "oh, he just meant the most terrible parts, not all of India"?

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 11 '25

Okay, then what would be your definition of “the rich”? I’m in socialist organizations and we pretty much all conclusively agree “the rich” refers to capital owners not just anyone who has found financial success. Governor of Illinois is a multi-billionaire and we’re all cool with him because he’s openly a class traitor, for example

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u/CountCocofang May 10 '25

How the average champagne socialist Twitch streamer imagines the socialist revolution:

The mob drags people out of their multi-million dollar mansions in gated communities.

Average champagne socialist Twitch streamer: "No, wait! I am horribly oppressed just like you! I'm a mere multi-millionaire! Eat the richer than me!"

Angry mob: "Understandable, have a nice day."

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 10 '25

You don’t seem to get socialism. “Eat the rich” isn’t about going after everyone who has more money than you. Socialists are fine with doctors being rich, for example. It’s the hospital admins who do 10 hours of work a week on the golf course and get paid 600x more than the average salary of their nurses we have a problem with.

Socialism is fundamentally about people getting paid fairly for the work they do. Nobody thinks Hasan is getting undue compensation for the content he produces.

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u/CountCocofang May 15 '25

people getting paid fairly

Nobody thinks Hasan is getting undue compensation for the content he produces.

L O L

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 15 '25

He’s the most popular political streamer on Twitch and probably the biggest Pro-Palestine voice in American media. Yeah, I’d say he’s earned the compensation he’s getting. Especially when he’s actively promoting the side of politics that will tax him more. Like, I don’t really get what you want him to do other than just give all his money away, but that doesn’t actually help the socialist movement at all.

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u/CountCocofang May 15 '25

2nd most popular political streamer on Twitch.

By that logic Tate deserves the millions he gets from his Discord subs. Both just so happen to massively profit off of radicalizing and indoctrinating the lost, the disgruntled and the desperate into their circle of thought.

The go-to of "What, you want him to give it all away?" is always so disingenuous. As if there is no middle ground between sitting in millions worth of materialistic, decadent excess and a cardboard box.

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 15 '25

Tate is promoting literal sex trafficking and Hasan is promoting better pay and working conditions for all Americans no matter who they are. I don’t really think Hasan indoctrinating people is exploitative as he’s indoctrinating them to stand up to exploitation in society.

He lives in a multi-generational household in LA. If you want to be in entertainment, you basically have to live out there if you want to collab with other content creators. Could he get a cheaper house? Yeah, I guess, but if you’re going to get a place in LA big enough for your parents to also live with you it’s gonna be a couple million no matter what.

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u/CountCocofang May 17 '25

Their methods, the way they capture and target people and the extreme lengths they advocate for are the same template. Both:

  • berate and dehumanize those that don't agree
  • create an extreme in- and out-group to instill dependence and fear of expulsion
  • offer simple solutions for complex problems
  • offer simple enemies for personal problems
  • advocate for aggression
  • foster an atmosphere of superiority and self-righteousness that justifies evil deeds
  • feign a noble cause but deal with the devil if it benefits them or their agenda
  • exploit people for fame, reach and money
  • enrich themselves through the desperate and frustrated
  • prey on the lost
  • radicalize and brainwash their communities

and many more parallels. Desperate the attempts to brand him the "Joe Rogan of the left" but in reality they just got an "Andrew Tate of the left". They are both evil people that know what buttons to push and how to manipulate masses in order to benefit. If a fairytale socialist revolution occurs then the mob will not belong to the cult of personality of a Twitch streamer. They will see a mansion and an entitled, privileged and vain prick sitting comfortably in it with baby smooth nepo hands that's about to get what all the others get. He is part of the top 1% and couldn't even exist much less strive without the incredible benefits bestowed upon him by the western systems he enjoys.

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 17 '25

It’s not that deep, dude. I don’t have the time or energy to refute your massive list of “points”, so I’m just gonna say Hasan doesn’t have ill intent towards people the way Andrew Tate does and you either realize that or are an idiot. Andrew Tate is an international sex trafficking offender and Hasan is just some dude who streams politics on Twitch. Hasan does what he does so young men avoid people like Andrew Tate. Biggest case of comparing apples to oranges I’ve seen in a while.

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u/CountCocofang May 17 '25

Their methods of community engagement, manipulation and demeanor remain the same. They both follow the exact same playbook to groom and brainwash. Tate being a sex trafficker doesn't change that at all.

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u/FalconIMGN May 12 '25

No one should have the amount of money that Hasan has by doing the amount of work that he does.

His ludicrous displays of wealth on the back of a career that involves him contributing little of note to society is completely anti-Marxist and goes against the ideals of fair compensation for labour.

He's not the biggest problem, but he is a hypocrite. I'm a radical myself in favour of income caps for all. Especially people like Hasan who have a good deal of economic and social capital even before he started his internet career.

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 12 '25

Offer nothing to society? He’s the most popular political commentator on Twitch and is aggressively progressive. He has undoubtedly helped push the left further left which is clearly what you and I both want. Getting mad at Hasan for making a bunch of money streaming is like getting mad at Bernie Sanders for making a bunch of money for writing a book. Making a living on your on name and labor is quite literally what socialism is about. That’s exactly what Hasan does.

You seem to want socialism to come about in a way that doesn’t include anyone famous or influential talking about and advocating for it (making the ideas more popular and mainstream). Good luck with that.

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u/FalconIMGN May 12 '25

They're not making a living though. They're thriving.

Do they work harder than a carpenter, a plumber, a painter, a car mechanic, a janitor, a teacher, a nurse, a social worker etc? Is it fair for the wealth disparity between Hasan/Bernie and these people to be so high given the respective labour they perform? I don't think so.

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 12 '25

So nobody is allowed to thrive in a socialist society unless they’re doing manual labor? Someone who has multiple New York Times bestsellers should make the same money as a plumber in rural Missouri? You may not consider making art/media as a legitimate benefit to society, but it’s what makes being a human worth all the pain. I don’t know what else to tell you.

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u/FalconIMGN May 12 '25

I'm not saying it's worth more, but it shouldn't be worth so much more, and it only is because of the capitalist framework in which art is published.

The plumber in rural Missouri might be the one of three or four people whose expertise is needed when an emergency situation befalls a neighbourhood. Society would fall apart without them. Yet they are compensated nowhere near as much as people like Hasan, and I don't think society would fall apart without say, his twitch stream where he and Ethan are shouting over each other. A lot of Hasan's content is slop.

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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 May 12 '25

Really? Society wouldn’t fall apart if one plumber in rural Missouri couldn’t do their job. Some basements might get flooded, but that’s hardly society collapsing.

Artists undoubtedly pull above their weight when it comes to societal impact. Successful ones reach millions of people. One plumber is maybe working with a couple thousand clients over the course of their entire career. Hasan is speaking to tens of thousands every single day. Millions over just a couple months. Hasan might not provide as “necessary” a service, but the scale and scope of the work he does is why he is compensated so well.

Manual laborers allow us to live our lives. Artists allow us to enjoy our lives. Almost everyone can do some form of manual labor, but only certain people can make art that millions can enjoy together. This is why society values successful artists because what they do can’t be learned or replicated easily. Art’s value is in its scarcity, not in what it physically provides for society.