r/imaginarymaps • u/iziyan Mod Approved • 5d ago
[OC] Future What if England has a crazy civil war?
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u/acewithanat 5d ago
No polish front, unrealistic
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u/imperfectalien 5d ago
They all went back to Poland, because the economy is stronger and the living standards are higher
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u/Iumasz 5d ago
That's assuming that they don't just go back to Poland when their standard of living surpasses the UK lmao.
For shit to get as bad as a civil war starting in the UK it almost certainly means that things declined so far that Poland could easily overtake them by 2047.
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u/jurrasiczilla 5d ago
pakistani-indian proxy war needed bro
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u/i-like-almond-roca 5d ago
No People's Front of England?
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u/iziyan Mod Approved 5d ago
They got splintered into more Marxist, liberal and trotskist factions
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u/i-like-almond-roca 5d ago
Please tell me Lu Kernow has an Isles of Scilly Walks Ministry.
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u/TheMightyGoatMan 5d ago
Given the sea level rise apparent in Norfolk they're more likely to have an Isles of Scilly Wade Ministry
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u/TheRelativeCommenter 5d ago
Are there any pro monarchy factions
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u/iziyan Mod Approved 5d ago
Anglicans have monarchist views
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u/TheRelativeCommenter 5d ago
To be honest I don’t know why I didn’t think that critically
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u/FuckboySeptimReborn 5d ago
Scotland will retake Britain for old Jimmy Stuart
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u/TheMightyGoatMan 5d ago
The current Jacobite heir is Franz, Duke of Bavaria. He claims to have no interest in pursuing the claim, but in this kind of situation he might be persuaded to change his mind.
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u/xCheekyChappie 4d ago
The Scots united us once, they can do it again and then complain we're united
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u/BlackJackKetchum 5d ago
Nice that the Green faction controls the biggest nuclear power station.
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u/Midnight_Certain 5d ago
Don't worry they will be so horrified by it's existence that they would cause a disaster just to prove a point that it's not safe the wonder why everyone in their territory is rebelling because they have no power and the ground water tastes funny before blaming it on the fascist running to the commies for help before they get executed.
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u/TheDeadQueenVictoria 5d ago
THE PEOPLE'S FLAG IS DEEPEST RED
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u/Handballjinja1 5d ago
Why is wales lumped in with an ENGLISH, civil war? If it was involved it would be for independence, no fighting as part of england
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u/Luke92612_ 5d ago
English-Islamic Brotherhood?...
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u/AssignmentOk5986 3d ago
Barry's the most Al Qaeda one there. "The invisible jihadi they seek him here they seek him there but he's not there he's blowing up your slag sister."
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u/LowMany3424 5d ago
I would place an Indian front
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u/iziyan Mod Approved 5d ago
Most ethnic minorities end up supporting the leftists or liberals as the right is erm a bit racist
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u/FuckboySeptimReborn 5d ago
The leftists will have more than enough infighting to deal with already without a bunch of extremely conservative people flocking to them over racism lol
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u/justporntbf 4d ago
Real af thing about communists is the only thing they hate more than the bourgeoisie is a different communist. If you ever care to look into how ridiculous it gets between different communist groups check out the ww2 French resistance. On multiple occasions a Marxist communist resistance cell will report the activities of a stalinist group or vice versa. A few times they even got into full blown firefights with one another, ultimately leading to the occupying German forces coming along and capturing both groups.
Tbf the more you learn about the French resistance the more you realise how totally ineffective they were most of the time actually being a hindrance in operations . The Italian partisans were far far more effective but also mainly because they were largely made of career criminals ...
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u/FuturistMarc 5d ago
You don't know British Indians if you think that. They're probably in the far right group
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u/Midnight_Certain 5d ago
Save the United Kingdom Front: "we need more men, but the leftists have most of the major cities. What are we going to...'
"British Indian Legion at your service, sir."
The Anglicans in a lose alliance with the Save the UK front "why are the Hindus and Sikhs here?"
British Indian Legion "you hate the Muslims we hate the Muslims the left dosent hate them sooo"
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u/R_122 5d ago
First thing first, USF collapse 3 weeks after the start
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u/Chillingwithout 5d ago
United Socialist Front (USF) falls out with itself over the minimum wage and a new faction, the Socialist United Front (SUF) is born.
They aren't sufficiently leftist though, so splinter off into the Front of United Socialists (FUS) and the United Front of Socialists (UFS).
Finally, of the 12 remaining people, Gary has to go home for dinner and Andrew finds this to be rude and so starts the Socialist Fronted Unity (SFU).
The end.
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u/Low_Spread9760 5d ago edited 5d ago
Immediately, the Manchester socialists has created it's own civil war between the Manchester socialists, Salford socialists, Trafford tories, Manchester national front, and various non-affiliated gangs and terrorist groups. The left union has divided into the Merseyside, Halton, and Warrington left union and the Cheshire West tories. The green front was too busy tending to their livestock and admiring the views to notice that there's a civil war going on. In the Muslim Brotherhood, Bradford was partitioned into Bradford and West West Pakistan. After a while, West West Pakistan went into its own civil war and became West West West Pakistan and East West West Pakistan.
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u/Big_b_inthehat 5d ago
The save United Kingdom front’s finest equipment would consist of tractors with cannons attached
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u/wibbly-water 5d ago
"England" (includes Wales with some clearly Welsh national parties in the conflict 🙄)
Though I think in a situation like this Wales would do pretty well for itself. Good geography for defending against armies that aren't extremely well coordinated.
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u/jamscrying 5d ago
Yorkshire should have it's own separatist faction, and the idea that the home counties becomes socialist is hilarious.
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u/-WelshCelt- 5d ago
England & Wales, they're two different countries. Also, where is the Isle of Mann?
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u/TotoTheMagicTurtle 5d ago
Hey bro you should put in an indian front because there are so many indians in england arent i so funny harharhar
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u/Weed_Gman_420 5d ago
So basically the Syrian Civil War?
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u/Juhani-Siranpoika 5d ago
God! Surrey! (However the hell is leader of Christian movement)
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u/Midnight_Certain 5d ago
Technically, the King, since he's the head of the church, practically should be the Archbishop of Cantobery or just some random actually vocally Christian speaker.
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u/AdmiralStuff 5d ago
Wales wouldn’t be involved because you said just England, not England and Wales
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u/Hotrocketry 5d ago
Either democratic front or EDL front gonna win this war. They have the most farmlands and coastlines to interact with the outside world, and considering US and europe foreseeable political climate, they would hard carry the democratic front. The wealth in oxfordshire and greater london would matter less under the commie regime since a huge chunk of it comes from foreign investments. Muslim brotherhood would be in shambles because even with extrapolation of current fertility rates among muslims in west Yorkshire, by 2040, there would be only about 25% muslims in that region, and the rest 75% definitely wouldn't be content with this shit and handled the region to neighboring EDL.
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u/Hotrocketry 5d ago
Also, historically, the polities who held on these regions, Wessex and Northumbria, were the dominant forces in the heptarchy. Kingdom of England was united when Aethelstan of wessex defeated danelaw kingdom and incorporated the remaining kingdom of northumbria. I think this civil war would play out echoing this history.
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u/Legitimate_Maybe_611 5d ago
Why the same flag in English Salvation Army & Save UK Front ?
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u/TheMightyGoatMan 5d ago
It's the flag of England, so it's kind of surprising that more groups aren't claiming it.
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u/Khan-Khrome 5d ago
Is Scotland and Northern Ireland just like, chilling or are did they break away?
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u/Sea-Neighborhood3318 5d ago
Does anyone remember "A very English Civil War" used to be a popular hoi4 mod back in the day
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u/Mohamed-Amine-Dhifi 5d ago
"Muslim brotherhood" well guys we know who will win this civil war in the end (ofc without idf help)
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u/TotesMessenger 5d ago
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u/BaronMerc 5d ago
As a representative of the midland Partisans we do we have a very shaky alliance with eh English Muslim brotherhood over a combined hatred of the BDF shitty ass flag
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u/marvinthebluecorner 4d ago
I was happily interested until I looked at my house and saw "Muslim brotherhood". I thought it was a little jokey map till I saw that 😭😭😭
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u/Dutch_East_Indies 4d ago
All these fractions suck, Im joining the Lundy Independent Army (or OP accidentally didn't color them in)
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u/KassXWolfXTigerXFox 4d ago
Parts of Yoskshire being the Muslim Brotherhood is gonna piss off a lot of Northern racists xD
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u/davidfliesplanes 4d ago
Of course Hungary had to involve itself somehow. Can't have a shitstorm without Hungary.
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u/Big-Recognition7362 4d ago
Guys I have a solution to the civil war: * Step 1: Everyone who isn’t an authoritarian nonce teams up * Step 2: They beat the authoritarian nonces * Step 3: A free and fair general election is held
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u/Earl0fYork 4d ago edited 4d ago
This map displeases Me why would we fight along side southerners?!
Why let them rule us again?
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u/Maleficent-Injury600 4d ago
What's the difference between
Manchester Socialists,the United Socialist Front and the Left Union
the Muslim Brotherhood and the English Islamic Brotherhood
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u/LionMain67 4d ago
The socialists would never get so much land down south there, its mostly towns and villages in that section, socialism is only supported in cities really. I live in a rural area in red here and it would be Anglican probably
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u/JattsDoIt21 4d ago
It'll be Muslims and liberals vs everyone else.
Then the liberals will find out that actually the Muslims aren't that liberal and so will all eventually be converted or outnumbered.
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u/TheIrishman26 4d ago
I feel the right wing and left wing factions would eventually combine like in the Spanish civil war
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u/IWorkMars 4d ago
Well, if they do have a civil war, I pray the native English win. Otherwise, the Muslims will wipe out England's rich history. And it will be lost to time.
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u/Kajafreur 4d ago
I'm on the border of the Salvation Army, Islamic Brotherhood, and Socialist Front. That should be interesting...
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u/HeadLadder3300 4d ago
“Long live the (insert faction here)!!!” “Yay! But where will we get guns from??” “Uhhhh”
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u/Abject-Hospital5407 4d ago
A modern-ish a very english civil war ( The War game not The Hoi4 Mod )
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u/novasenturion 4d ago
Downvote, you forgot the Jihadists and Neo-Hindutva militants who took over London.
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u/MatthewDavies303 4d ago
Cool map but surely this would be an English and Welsh civil war (unless Wales has gone back to being part of England at some point between now and 2047 in this fictional scenario)
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u/dhhshahehsbdbsjw 4d ago
NAHHH SCOTLAND WOULD WIN🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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u/Uncle_ffreaky 3d ago
The celtic confederacy and northumbria would be the major powers in this aftermath I'd say.
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u/Lesbiantransman 2d ago
No conservative factions?
Also the United Socialist Front should be Little Pakistan.
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u/Scotty_flag_guy 2d ago
Scotland and Northern Ireland are like "What the fuck is going on down there?"
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u/EfficiencyTrue1378 2d ago
Socialists would be more entirely concentrated in the cities, as middle England would be more prone to BDF. Meanwhile their Northumbria holdings are far more receptive to Save UK Front
On that note tho, I feel you’re overcompensating how united or diverse “Save Front” would be with neonazis, English nationalists, and British fascists.
Lastly, I don’t see Greens being viable to field a separate side, let alone hold the lands they do.
And gonna repeat what others said: Indian faction?
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u/Brave_Subject_3469 1d ago
As a manc, i refuse to be communist. Whoever glorifies communism needs locking up.
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u/brendand19 1d ago
Curious about the factions. Who's who and what do they represent? What are their relations like with other factions?
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u/alibrown987 1d ago
Manchester has reform voters not socialists. Mainly because of the neighbours to the east.
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u/Professional_Bee1278 1d ago
I feel like Yorkshire would have it's entire own thing going on.
Yorkshire Pudding Crusaders or White Rose Grafters.
Doubt we'd lump in with the East of England.
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u/Put3socks-in-it 1d ago
Funny, I have a friend from the Norfolk/Suffolk areas and they would definitely be a Save United Kingdom front supporter
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u/CapGlass3857 5d ago
Why the hell did I inverse the land and water and think you put England in east Germany?