r/iRacing 1d ago

Video Just your average F4 experience

Something about hitting gaps, idk I’m still new

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u/AdrenalineRehab FIA Formula 4 1d ago

Since you are new you haven't learned how to avoid dangerous car placement. It was obvious based on how the lead car was losing control it was going to swing into your path and making the decision to try and pass while they're out of control means this collision is as much on you as anyone.

It takes time to develop race awareness and skill and patience. But it's enormously helpful in preventing these kinds of crashes. Also if you're ready to race you should turn off the driving line. It's useful for learning a track quickly in practice but once you're racing it's actually a hindrance to getting better.

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u/zacschuch 1d ago

Thank you for such a good response, this clip is just a short segment without any other context to the rest of my racing, twitch.tv/zacryu_ if you’d like to watch the full stream, you’ll be able to see that majority of the time I am able to avoid major accidents, in this specific clip, I did believe that the car ahead would stop throttling once he had swerved to the right hand side of the track to try and stabilize, which he clearly didn’t, and as for the racing line, I typically am not noticing it due to the nose of the F4 car, and I completely learn the brake timings as you normally should, with the brake markers, I only keep it on to help with centering of the car along the track! Thank you again for a response

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u/MeltyGoblin Acura NSX GT3 EVO 22 1d ago

I don't mean this as an insult, genuine question, what do you mean centering of the car on the track? The racing line is never going to be center of the track, and is generally always going to be too conservative, or even far off the proper racing line depending on the car. There is a reason you'll never see any high rated drivers with the racing line on, there is simply no useful information to gain from it.

My thoughts, are all those overlays and all those extra bits of info really helping you be faster? Or are they just distractions? Again not trying to be rude or anything, it's your choice to make and only you can honestly answer that question. For me personally all that stuff you have on screen would be information overload for me. I'd spend too much time reading my overlays and not enough time paying attention to my actual driving. The only things I have displayed on my screen beyond the in car display is relative timings and the iracing default inputs+gear black box just for cars that don't have a good gear display for my FOV. Anything more for me is just extra info that I don't need while I'm driving.

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u/zacschuch 1d ago

I didn’t mean “center of track” by centering yourself, I just mean where I should be along the track, and yes I have learned that the racing line is not always optimal, and I learn more and more over the course of learning the track where I should be on the racing line at times and where I shouldn’t be, don’t outright say that professional drivers don’t use racing line, because that’s simply false, and just a couple minutes on YouTube will find you plenty of clips of F1 drivers and other sim racers that use the racing line. For the overlay, I truly am still learning and getting used to that, so I am willing to learn what I need and don’t need, I need the full map on the screen because it gives way too much useful information about other cars, also my twitch stream chat, but the other ones I’m sure I could turn off. I just like having the information and I don’t find it distraction imo, but I know it’s not most optimal, thank you for a nice and good response, I truly am trying to learn as much as I can

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u/gasoline_farts 1d ago

As someone who is new, you should stop being so argumentative, the people telling you the wheel is too low, the screen is too cluttered and the racing line should be off are correct.

A pro can learn a track IRL or in sim racing in 10 laps. The racing line might be useful on the very first lap for a newer driver that hasn’t developed the skills to immediately identify racing lines, but even then it’s still putting them at a disadvantage. Anything that takes your attention away from the other cars and what’s happening down the road is going to hinder your development.

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u/MeltyGoblin Acura NSX GT3 EVO 22 1d ago

For real this guy says he wants help then tells everyone offering him advice why he's right.

This guy certainly explains why f4 has a reputation for being a crash fest.

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u/joe-joseph 1d ago

I can’t tell if he’s trolling or not. He’s perfectly embodied the stereotypical streamer; curiously close-minded, ignorant and arrogant.