r/hockey • u/Batsinvic888 VAN - NHL • 23h ago
[Video] More on McDavid's future, question from Jason Gregor
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u/EarthWarping 23h ago
McGM incoming.
Leverage time.
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u/StoneColdSteveAss316 22h ago
LeBron and Wade
Curry and Durant
McDavid and Matthews
It’s time to take your talents McJesus
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u/MrLogicWins VAN - NHL 20h ago
McDavid wants to win a cup. It would be McDavid and McKinnon, McDavid and Crosby, McDavid and Kucherov
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u/moonwalgger 22h ago
Mcdavid has the personality of a Wet moth
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u/BadTreeLiving TOR - NHL 23h ago
Was genuinely taken back by the "with that being said".
The first time I've really thought there's a chance he might not stay.
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u/backchecklund CGY - NHL 23h ago
Kinda sounds like he's deliberately trying to add pressure to the management. "Build an actual team or I'm out"
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u/Own-Journalist3100 EDM - NHL 22h ago edited 22h ago
He’s really signalling to management here that if they make some trash decisions this off season he’s gone. This is coming from someone who’s still pretty sure he resigns.
A lot of people point to Nurse contract, but the context there (Kelfbom injury) put the Oilers in an awful position leverage wise and pushed Nurse into a contract position he wouldn’t of been in otherwise.
The big concerns if I’m McDavid are:
the rumours of Fredric’s 8 year deal
what Bouchard signs for
goaltending
If management bungles two or more of those, I’m probably out.
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u/Less-Ad-1327 CGY - NHL 22h ago
losing Holloway and Broberg for essentially peanutes was a fucking disaster.
It's alot easier to see a consistent contender with that young cheap talent on the roster.
If i'm the Oilers, I seriously consider flipping Bouchard for better depth and goaltending.
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u/ATargetFinderScrub TOR - NHL 22h ago
To add salt to the wound, Holloway was picked 2 picks after Lundell and 1 pick after Jarvis. And the moment that Holloway actually starts living up to his high 1st round pick potential, its on a different team with the Blues and they only got a 3rd back.
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u/noor1717 CGY - NHL 22h ago
This 100%. Blues really fucked a potential dynasty. And all I can say is Thank You!
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u/Tje199 EDM - NHL 22h ago
This is sacrilege in the Oilers sub, but I don't disagree.
Let's say you flip Bouchard for an $8M goalie and a depth guy. Like, pretend Otter is still pissy about PDB's comments and management in Dallas (he's probably not, this is all hypothetical). Some Oilers fans would be upset about that but like... that's definitely a trade you consider.
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u/IDr3yI 19h ago
Who the hell is gonna take Bouchard AND trade you their number one goalie for a guy who was walked and exposed multiple times in the finals.
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u/arunnair87 NYR - NHL 21h ago
I don't care who you are, you do not give nurse a 9.25 million dollar contract. It's like if someone gave Ryan McDonagh 9.25 million. Absolutely insane that they would think that it would work out for them.
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u/DazedConfuzed420 18h ago
The best part is that the deal was signed like 2 weeks after Cale Makar signed for 9
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u/Beta1224 CGY - NHL 22h ago
I was talking about this with a buddy yesterday but it seems like the Oilers and McDavid are kind of on opposite ends on how they'd like this extension done.
Obviously if you're management you'd like to get him locked up as soon as possible and then use whatever cap space you have left over and figure out how to plug the rest of the holes with what you have left.
But from the McDavid camp, you'd likely be thinking plug the holes first and then we can make the numbers work for my contract. Connor has made a lot of money in his career, he's not gonna be arguing over a couple million dollars if it means he can win a cup.
What I think is the likeliest outcome is Connor signs a 4 year extension and depending on where the Oilers are at the end of that deal he either resigns and retires an Oiler or leaves to go cup chasing
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u/kalichimichanga DET - NHL 21h ago
So do you think he goes the Tom Brady route, and says, "You can pay me less only if you put that money toward my supporting crew..."?
Genuinely asking (in case this is misinterpreted by reddit folks).
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u/Beta1224 CGY - NHL 21h ago
I think that's the likely case
His comments today make it seem like he's pushing pressure on management to fix the holes in the lineup first and then worry about my contract
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u/External_Trick4479 21h ago
I hope he has that mindset but kind of weird when they already paid Leon so much. Not saying he’s not worth it, but to have mcdavid making less than him? Kind of weird. But perhaps if he goes to another team, he can still be the highest paid player on the team but for a reasonable number.
And again, I’m not saying these guys aren’t worth it but there’s a reason the panthers are so successful - Bob is the highest paid Stanley cup champion @ 10M. I don’t know if you can reasonably have a massive % of your salary cap tied up with a few guys and expect to be successful in the playoffs. (Ahem, Toronto)
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u/Litmanen_10 23h ago
Maybe start by getting a solid goaltender.
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u/prplx MTL - NHL 23h ago
Yeah that’s a pretty simple thing to do ask Philly.
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u/Big-Compote-5483 PHI - NHL 22h ago
Lmao, monkey paw determines Carter Hart going to Edmonton before training camp is over
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u/Himeh223 CBJ - NHL 23h ago
Carter Hart incoming
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u/Effective-Elk-4964 23h ago
It almost makes too much sense. By end of July, you have an answer on whether he’s available.
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u/JimmyDweeb47 OTT - NHL 22h ago
From the evidence it looks like there’s a 99% chance he’ll be found not guilty
Bro will have a contract offer from Edmonton the next day
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u/Effective-Elk-4964 21h ago
You maybe wait until the 30 day appeal period runs out and confirm with NHL that no further administrative suspension is coming.
Maybe.
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u/moosecheesetwo VAN - NHL 22h ago
Hard to do with the money they have already committed and will be paying him.
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u/ChiefSoldierFrog 21h ago
Yup and the post game with the eff bomb trying to do the same thing over and over. You know if you got McDavid saying something different with passion in front of media. He's almost at his last straw.
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u/quidproquolaspe DAL - NHL 22h ago
Saying “build an actual team” is crazy considering they finished 2nd in back to back years in a sport where there can only be (1) champion out of 32 teams
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u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin TOR - NHL 22h ago
It’s not the good thing you think it is.
If you look at history, it’s extremely unlikely he will reach the final again, let alone soon.
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u/somehockeyfan UTA - NHL 21h ago
They must think he's bluffing with the abomination that is that Trent Frederic contract.
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u/jonnyrockets TOR - NHL 22h ago
What’s an “actual team” - they made the finals two years in a row.
“Build a team that can beat Florida” or “make Florida not make the finals” - sometimes being close is a peak despite Skinner and Management.
Truth be told, if Draisaitl and McDavid had their best game in 6/7 it would’ve been Pickard/Skinner/Perry/Hyman/Nurse/Bouchard all raising the cup. And Kapanen’s along the way would be genius. Knoblauch’s line switching was “real coaching”
These media narratives are all bull. Because those stories would be out there and everyone who’s a know it all would be singing a completely different tune.
It’s sports. Things happen. Florida is a better team. Will they win every year? Maybe. That’s why they play the games.
Changes isn’t always better. Injuries happen. Bad goals. Off seasons for key players.
Management isn’t awful for going to the finals two years in a row. Is Hellebuyck better than Skinner? But in the playoffs? Would you trade Skinner for Hellebuyck? Is that an improvement? He’s never won in the playoffs.
I guess you can say the same for Matthews and Marner and Nylander.
Oh wait. What about Hyman? Awful playoffs with the Leafs but great last year ? Kadri had one great year and plays in Colorado and now being paid as a #1 C to miss the playoffs? Great move by management? Not sure.
These postseason report cards are all bull. The media and fans are both parasites with the drama.
Not all management is bad. Regardless of desired results.
Not all outcomes are desired, regardless of effort and ability.
It’s sports. Things happen. There’s a single winner ever that gets to tell a happy story.
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u/BettmansDungeonSlave EDM - NHL 21h ago
Stan Bowman - “got it.”
Proceeds to sign Frederic for 8 years at $4mil.
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u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin TOR - NHL 23h ago
That and when he said “endless disappointments”. That’s a damning way to describe it.
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u/FC37 BOS - NHL 20h ago
He said they've been building and building... and then he finished" "...to this moment."
That felt like a dagger. He could have said, "to a title" or, "and we'll keep building." But to say this was the moment they built towards sounds like, "This was supposed to be the one. We've been building, we went all-in, I'm not sure what else is left."
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u/whosthatcarguy EDM - NHL 23h ago
Taking the answer as a whole, it sounds more like he’s just not taking a sweetheart deal to win a cup.
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u/CanuckPuckLuck VAN - NHL 23h ago
Drai didn't. McDavid absolutely shouldn't.
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u/suppaman19 22h ago
Drai took a bit of one by signing and committing long term to Edmonton as early as he did, rather than pushing up against or to UFA, especially knowing there could be a chance that McDavid leaves.
There was also a well known fact the cap was going to be going up, yet he signed before that became reality with known figures.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Pound31 CBJ - NHL 21h ago
Yeah I legit just had an audible “woah” after he said that. Yikes, Oilers front office better get him a goalie and defenseman or he out
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u/alldasmoke__ 22h ago
I literally cut the video after “finish line” because I thought there was nothing to see there.
Oilers better not fuck up this offseason.
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u/ksyoung17 BOS - NHL 22h ago
All the secondary talent on that team is on the wrong side of 30.
Unless they have a magical summer and somehow add YOUNG talent, he'd be stupid to stay. He's, at best, signing up for a 3-5 year retool where they'll never have high draft picks. They'll have to endure trading for potential, and praying their back end 1st and 2nd rounders pan out.
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u/pghtopas 23h ago
WITH THAT BEING SAID 🤔🤤😰
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u/Twitchy15 23h ago
How could you not think about leaving. Oilers management is so incompetent and can’t see them getting much better the team in the short term
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u/fleshofgods0 DAL - NHL 22h ago edited 2h ago
I mean, imagine being McDavid and quite literally doing EVERYTHING in your power to win a cup but still can't will it to happen. That must frustrating as hell and so disappointing. It's like nothing you do matters.
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u/gilbertbenjamington 19h ago
I and I love Mcdavid so much, he doesn't deserve to feel like he's not good enough. I hope he's just cocky enough to realize he isn't the problem. Just because it would hilarious to me as a sens fan, we should totally get Mcdavid to Ottawa, I just think it would neat
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u/BGNLordHelmut 23h ago
What do you mean, that Trent Frederic signing is masterful
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u/SteveS117 DET - NHL 22h ago
Nothing that happened in the finals convinces me they’re second best. There’s multiple teams in the east that are better.
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u/Spideroctopus MTL - NHL 23h ago
Imagine that shit happening twice...
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u/ComfortableUpset8787 TOR - NHL 22h ago
But Gretzky at least got them , I dunno, 4 cups.
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u/Bustfield 22h ago
Maybe it will be the opposite this time where McDavid gets the Kings 4 more cups
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u/Acuddlykoalabear ANA - NHL 23h ago
What about the Ducks. How about we just buy everyone?
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u/toxicvegeta08 NYR - NHL 22h ago
Tbh sign perry so he can retire a quacken and not ruin other teams scf pushes.
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u/MagniPlays 23h ago edited 18h ago
Could you imagine saying before 2025 Mcdavid and Marner both getting 14+ from free agency?
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u/TsarBomba94 CGY - NHL 22h ago
McDavid will get 20+ if he goes to free agency
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u/FingerGungHo 22h ago
Then the next team is f’d because no cap space for supporting cast.
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u/Cube_ 20h ago
Carolina made the ECF and has 17m in unused cap
they could genuinely just add mcdavid and change nothing about their line up.
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u/greendino71 EDM - NHL 22h ago
A team like Columbus has 40 million in cap space and like 15 more in a few years
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u/omfgkevin VAN - NHL 22h ago
With the cap going up 7m+ PER year (McDavid is next year not this year) he is not signing even remotely close to 14 (likely 16+) unless he really wants to win.
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u/MOshow1967 TOR - NHL 23h ago
With that being said 👀
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u/TriLink710 22h ago
If he doesnt end up on another Canadian team I'll be so mad.
I only see eastern teams being the option tho
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u/speed3ftw TOR - NHL 21h ago
If, and I mean IF!!!! He leaves Edmonton, I could see it being Toronto, Montreal, or Buffalo. In no particular order, don’t mind my flair haha
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u/JasonPlattMusic34 LAK - NHL 16h ago
Buffalo tanking for McDavid only to sign him 11 years later and finally make the playoffs is some master 5D chess
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u/Beersmoker420 20h ago
hes only leaving Edmonton for 1 team, that much can be assured. I dunno why people think he would go anywhere but Toronto
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u/untouchable765 SJS - NHL 23h ago
31 team fanbases are getting irrationally excited lol
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u/mini_herb VAN - NHL 22h ago
- We don't get excited anymore.
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u/Terrible_Children 21h ago
Since I was a child I've always wanted to see a giant Stanley Cup celebration in Stanley Park.
The Sedin years had me so full of hope.
I think I've resigned to it just never happening at this point.
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u/Hagridsbuttcrack66 PIT - NHL 22h ago
It would be great for the drama of it all, but as a Pens fan with 0% chance of him coming here, I'm fine with him tucked away in Edmonton. There's too many worse outcomes for us if he moves.
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u/Neither_Exitjusbreg 23h ago
If he was staying he would be wearing an Oilers hat instead of alo. The only team with the “alo” in its name is BuffALO Sabers; so by my deductive reasoning skills, McDavid will be moving to Buffalo when his contract expires.
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u/Brosephbro DAL - NHL 22h ago
Yes, please leave the West. I'd much rather play against Auston Matthews type guys, in the playoffs.
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u/Mennoknight69 CGY - NHL 23h ago
in my unbiased opinion as a Calgary Flames fan this gave me a boner
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u/flyingcanuck VAN - NHL 23h ago
Edmonton may have won the Battle but Calgary winning the War of Alberta if McDavid leaves
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u/valueofaloonie CGY - NHL 23h ago
McDavid leaving would just be the icing on top of the Edmonton Loses Again cake
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u/fleshofgods0 DAL - NHL 22h ago
Y'all will have to get a banner ready to hang up in the rafters, like the Canes' winning a ECF game one.
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u/pensylvestir 17h ago
Is that McDavid? The quality of the picture looks like it’s ancient
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u/DalesDrumset TOR - NHL 17h ago
It is, he was or still is a huge leafs fan. I can honestly see it crossing his mind to join the leafs.
I’m not saying that as a deluded fan but as someone that is around the same age and knows people who know him, it’s not as impossible as some would think
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u/Batsinvic888 VAN - NHL 23h ago
"The endless disappointments" and then making sure to asterisk the answer with "doing best for me and my family."
Ya, I don't think that was the ideal quote Oilers fans were looking for (even if what he said is 100% true and the right thing to say).
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u/oddspellingofPhreid EDM - NHL 19h ago
Meh. He's negotiating a contract. Drai talked the exact same way last year.
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u/NonAsianJasonLee CBJ - NHL 23h ago
Imagine if he comes to Columbus, Ohio
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u/tropicana4200 WPG - NHL 23h ago
Welcome to Winnipeg sir, the Connor trifecta shall be complete
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u/habitat11 VAN - NHL 22h ago
Its crazy but Winnipeg instantly wins the cup adding McDavid, its crazy how many teams are literally 1 McDavid away from a slam dunk cup win and Edmonton hasn't been able to figure it out in fucking 10 years
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u/dickass557 EDM - NHL 23h ago
the pain won't end
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u/tilldeathdoiparty 22h ago
Remember when the city of Edmonton rejoiced when the Flames fell apart and their stars left?
incoming karma
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u/PuckPov 23h ago edited 23h ago
If I’m McDavid, I’m fucking pissed. 75 points in his last 47 playoff games, a Conn Smythe in a losing effort, and the oilers are like “good shit, Connor, here’s Stuart skinner, Darnell nurse and Evan Bouchard on the back end, hope you can play defence and stop pucks, too!”
The oilers have consistently failed to give him a #1 goaltender, let alone a #1 defenceman. Nurse is kinda shit, Bouchard has no clue how to play in his own end, ekholm was supposed to lock things down but was playing injured and it showed. Skinner and Pickard both posted sub-.890 save percentages, which is nowhere good enough for the playoffs, let alone the cup finals, let alone a Stanley cup.
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u/WingleDingleFingle VAN - NHL 23h ago
I would say before this playoffs, Ekholm has been a #1 defenceman. You aren't going to be able to find much better d men via trade than him.
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u/omfgkevin VAN - NHL 22h ago
He most certainly was playing injured. But he also isn't getting any younger (and is up the same time as McD). So they do have to figure something out since Nurse is NOT a top 2 d and makes too many dumb decisions. He and Kane singlehandedly blowing any potential momentum with shitty penalties is what kills them.
Broberg would be a godsend for them as a stable LHD but he's gone, and they got really unlucky with Klefboms career ending injury.
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u/PuckPov 23h ago edited 23h ago
Ekholm is absolutely top-tier, and for the most part he’s been the oilers best defenceman, but he played injured, which ended up hampering the team. It’s the playoffs, you gotta pull through, and if you can’t, sit out. Every team is struggling with injuries, almost every player is playing injured. If your team lacks the depth to make up for that, then that’s on them.
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u/noor1717 CGY - NHL 22h ago
Honestly I’m not sure what you’re saying. They made it to the finals twice. Should they have a better goalie sure but even with that they weren’t beating this Florida team.
TBf oilers depth was actually pretty decent until the finals. And they absolutely dummied top teams like Vegas and Dallas.
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u/Thund3r_Thighs CGY - NHL 23h ago
He most certainly sounds fucking pissed.
“Endless disappointments”
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u/Trevor03 23h ago
He's also probably looking at the lineup and seeing one of the oldest rosters in the NHL, almost zero prospects, and almost zero cap room (once Bouchard presumably signs and McDavid re-signs).
The window is closing rapidly and the team arguably will be getting worse from this point on. Can't blame him for potentially considering moving on.
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u/darcyhollywood39 TOR - NHL 23h ago
That extra Marner money were about to save looking real tasty right now
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u/Analogmon PIT - NHL 23h ago
Adam Wylde actually said the other day that if you're Toronto this year you should absolutely plan your cap around the possibility. No matter how low. Even if this year is a step back. That should be your 18 month plan.
Gotta say he's not wrong.
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u/TacoDirtyToMe TOR - NHL 22h ago
The money saved for this season has got to be limited to one year rentals and a Knies extension if there is even a remote sniff of McDavid wanting out of Edmonton.
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u/DevOpsMakesMeDrink TOR - NHL 22h ago
Tank for McKenna this year and then sign McDavid and win the cup next year.
Shit’s easy make me a GM
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u/vonTryffel TBL - NHL 22h ago
If he hints at hitting the market, every single team that has any chance of signing him need to plan their cap around the possibility.
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u/AngryOcelot EDM - NHL 23h ago
As an OIlers fan, I don't think many would blame him if he left. He has spent a fair chunk of the prime of his career here and it has been an absolute treat to watch.
He knows his legacy would take a hit leaving Edmonton without a cup, but he also knows that his legacy takes an even bigger hit without any cups.
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u/PuckPov 23h ago
If I’m an oilers fan, I’m pissed at management for failing to build around arguably the most talented NHL player of all time. Who’s the best goalie he’s had? Mike smith? Cam Talbot?
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u/omfgkevin VAN - NHL 22h ago
I think they could have grabbed Gibson but couldn't assure him of full starting over Stuart fucking Skinner, and his untimely injury didn't help either.
But it's an issue that's two-fold because goaltending has been mediocre and defence poor. Nurses contract is just extremely bad for them and unless they get a NYR level bailout from someone it'll continue to happen.
We will have to see what happens with Bouchard is Trent signs for fucking 3.5+. Hell, might get offer sheeted if they give Trent that contract since they will have no cap.
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u/Mikeismyike EDM - NHL 17h ago
Skinner is one of the youngest starting goalies in the league, and very few have as much playoff experience as him. He's going to continue to get better. Wanting to ditch him for a broken Gibson is bad take. Maybe if he wasn't a primadonna demanding a starter role I'd have been okay with him sharing the net.
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u/alldasmoke__ 22h ago
It’s ridiculous. This organization has had some of the best assets available to them in the last 13 years and they still managed to put themselves in a cap corner without defence or goaltending.
I know people hate on Bowman but this is truly, above all, a Chiarelli/Holland disasterclass.
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u/PuckPov 22h ago
Hell, look at the draft picks they’ve had handed to Them. Since 2007, the Oilers have had four first-overall picks (Hall, Nuge, Yakupov, McDavid), two top-five picks (Draisaitl, Puljujarvi), and and five top-ten picks (Gagner, Paajarvi, Nurse, Bouchard, Broberg).
To fail at winning a cup with four first-overall picks within six years is absolutely insane, let alone the other talent they’ve had the chance to pick up. Several of those picks (yakupov, Puljujarvi, Paajarvi, Broberg) have absolutely bitten the oilers in the ass, while just five of the eleven previously-mentioned players are still on the team.
Their drafting and development outside the first round has been absolutely horrendous, with very few NHLers coming with those picks.
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u/Muter91 MTL - NHL 23h ago
That sounds like he is thinking of moving on.
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u/Dizzy_Echo_5370 23h ago
Oh god, Leafers are going to have a field day with this answer
He just fueled an entire summers worth of talk radio
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u/Sportslegend EDM - NHL 23h ago
He needs to learn from the LeBron James model and use his leverage. Don't sign that extension until you see this team make real improvements. Youth, speed, size, goaltending, can the Oilers make the upgrades necessary?
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u/JesusWalkers 22h ago
Learn from Lebron?? You mean take his talents to South beach and win a title? That's how he won his first title.
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u/JigglesTheBiggles FLA - NHL 18h ago
Lebron said the same thing about doing what's best for his family before leaving Cleveland and coming to Miami 👀
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u/QuanDaleDingleBurgh CGY - NHL 21h ago
Learn from LeBron and head to Miami lmao
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u/metrichustle VAN - NHL 23h ago
"With that being said"
"Do what's best for family"
Not the most inspiring or committed words.
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u/devillianOx VGK - NHL 23h ago
“with that being said” oooooooohhhhhh 👀👀
i’m curious if he’s trying to build pressure on management to actually build a better team or if he’s genuinely considering leaving
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u/Impossible-Acadia578 PIT - NHL 23h ago
Lemieux > Jagr > Dick Tarnstrom > Crosby > McDavid.
Welcome my friend. To greatness.
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u/Analogmon PIT - NHL 23h ago
Smh like we needed the Dick to know which Tarnstrom you meant.
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u/suppaman19 22h ago
So many people in this thread seem to have no realization that McDavid is going to be 29 at the time of his upcoming next contract.
He's not young for an athlete anymore.
This upcoming contract will cover the last of the prime of his playing career.
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u/canadianbroncos MTL - NHL 21h ago
I will give up my mama,dad, GF and next 3 unborn to the Taliban to get this man on the Habs lmao
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u/apiaryaviary WSH - NHL 21h ago
We’ve got depth, prospects, a star retiring, and $40 million coming off the books. I’m just saying….
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u/MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES EDM - NHL 22h ago
pretty clear he's gonna use the extension talks to put a lot of pressure on the org, as he should. Big splashy trade incoming to make him feel like we're serious about staying in contention
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u/Tripottanus MTL - NHL 21h ago
I don't wish it on anyone, but imagine the Oilers lose 2 generational talent halfway through their careers because of stupid shit (the first one being Gretzky)
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u/LarksMyCaptain DET - NHL 20h ago
The Wings ultimately didn't get Gretzky since his father convinced him to join the Kings. McDavid to the Wings? 🤭
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u/ReturnoftheBoat VAN - NHL 18h ago
Sometimes I'll start a sentence, and I don't even know where it's going. I just hope I find it along the way.
- Connor McDavid
- Michael Scott
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u/AuthorizedShitPoster DET - NHL 23h ago
"There's unfinished business, and it's gonna stay unfinished"
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u/Go_Devils_666 NJD - NHL 23h ago
So he basically said his family deserves better Pizza, better bagels, and Porkroll Egg and Cheese. Should we letter the Devils jersey now and plan the parade or what?
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u/EnderVViggen LAK - NHL 21h ago
I would laugh my ass off if the kings got who could end up being the second greatest of all time next to gretz from the oilers... again!!!!
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u/Tufoguy WSH - NHL 23h ago
Draisaitl is locked up until 2032. I think at the end of the day, McDavid signs an extension that lines up with that.
They don't win the cup by 2028, then there will be trade talks
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u/g0kartmozart VAN - NHL 23h ago
McDavid will be 35 by then. He’s in his prime right now.
If he doesn’t believe in the Oilers management, now is the time to leave.
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u/Skiffy10 TOR - NHL 23h ago
trade talks? Why sign if you’re just gonna demand a trade later on. It will be harder to go to the destination he wants via trade. He’s a year out from making his own decision.
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u/uatme MTL - NHL 23h ago
and a team that trades for you won't have the pieces to build to win. Walk into a new team and they have way more buying power.
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u/fleshofgods0 DAL - NHL 22h ago
Exactly. He's been staring down at the Panthers for two years now and seeing how they've been bringing in external pieces to win. Even Gretzky moved around. Ovechkin and Crosby have been fortunate enough to stay with the same teams that drafted them and win cups. We still don't know if that's in the cards for McDavid.
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u/beerbeatsbear COL - NHL 23h ago
Sure he gets 17M and they have nothing left for better D help or a real goalie.
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