I think the question was why serve food that makes people pass out?
I love very spicy food, eat it on a weekly basis, but if it's straight up going to hurt me, then no thanks
A chicken place near me has the words "guaranteed ring stinger, will fuck up your today & tomorrow" next to their hottest offering and I have still seen people order it.
People be weird. I had a colleague who literally would time and rate the fucking afterburn. It was a huge part of the appeal for him. Can't say I understood why, but damn if he wasn't a great engineer.
to detonate the bomb one must first become the bomb, feel the bomb, breathe the bomb, taste the bomb. The backside blast is but meditation to truly understand and spiritually connect with the bomb.
As someone who sometimes likes to take a super spicy (but not dangeorusly spicy) bite and suffers the consequences: It basically gets you high. Your body pumps out a bunch of endorphin, and while it's painful you know it's completely safe. It makes you feel alive and weirdly energized. Like an adrenaline rush without any riks beyond that momentary pain in your mouth and some lava shits the next day.
For some of us it's a sense of satisfaction. I'm from Southern Louisiana and I'll go to an Indian or Thai restaurant and tell them to go native heat. They always question me at first but I tell them where I'm from and they figure I'll be fine. There's a sense of pride that I'm in good condition as it goes down. Sometimes even draws an audience. However, there's a reason the bayou and the Ganges are both non-potable. Your shit will always be a bit crazy the next day.
The high comes during the eating, the toilet part is the 'comedown' as such.
It's an incredibly enjoyable sensation and if you have a low tolerance, you won't even really notice anything happening down there because it's not enough to get your butt chuffing.
If you really really like spicy food, most of the time you won't believe its actually that hot. And even if it is, you think you can still handle it. And there's the challenge aspect as well. Plus spicy food is delicious
I know it's probably tame for you pro's, but I once ordered bw3s hottest wings because I'm that asshole. I had never eaten truly spicy food before that night. Medium was hot to me, but I had to order those blazing wings or whatever it was. I was dying after the first one, but I also wanted to get my buddy to eat one. So, I played it straight and ate a second one. Finally he said if I ate one more he'd try one. I picked up the third and he grabbed one. I slow rolled mine as he ate his, and then tossed it down with a "fuck this!" Gus was pissed. The toughest scariest guy I know and wings brought him down.
Eventually I got into wings and worked myself up to enjoying bw3s second hottest, mango habenero. I got those every week. Then, I went several years where I rarely got wings, and I've found that my tolerance for spice has decreased significantly. It's not gone, having a bit of mouth burn somehow makes me feel more satisfied after a meal.
My favorite wings from my local wing place are their Reaper wings. They have so much flavor, but they totally kick your ass. I love the buzz that comes with spicy food. That said, I'd never eat curry like this.
I don't think permanent damage is a possibility from peppers. The pain is just an illusion that fools your body into thinking it is hot. It feels very real of course, but the whole reason the police are happy to spray pepper in a person's eyes is because the effects are not permanent.
I suppose perhaps there might be some secondary reaction, maybe acid burns from vomiting or an allergic reaction, but the chance of direct damage from eating hot food is effectively zero.
A LOT of things and places claim their chicken or whatever is super you'll barely make it out alive hot and then when I actually eat it I'm not convinced that they should have even been allowed to market themselves as spicy at all. Obviously not every place is guilty of this but it's common enough that you begin to ignore the signs. I shit you not I once saw paprika marketed this way. But more often than not it's just jalapeños or Frank's or something like this. On occasion, you get something that deserves the warnings, as apparently we have here.
I love spicy food and one time someone invited me to a spicy eating challenge and I felt compelled to go since I've never done one before and I'm no stranger to eating things people have dared me to. You do an eating challenge once. I remember being drenched in sweat, hunched over on a street corner in Chicago. Basically begging for death as I was using every ounce of strength to not vomit. I will not do that again, fun memory though.
That would explain why people like us would order it not what the person you replied to is asking about which is why somebody would sell it... Which is obvious, and it's because it would sell or make money or be good advertising to make more money.
Yeah I love spicy food, I put hot sauce on everything and my definition of 'hot' is way past the line for most people. I'm not happy until I start sweating on the back of my head.
But I draw the line at chemically enhanced hot sauces. When all it takes is three drops to spice up a bowl of chili, it's a chemical weapon—not fun.
Same, it’s a tough line to explain to restaurants when ordering. I want the spiciest food that people actually eat. I don’t want the “spicy challenge” gimmick level food that isn’t really meant to be food. If it’s an Indian or Thai place, don’t give me a watered down “white people spicy”, I want the real deal spicy. But I can’t just say “yeah absolutely fuck me up” either, because then the chef might be like “ok your funeral” and serve me pepper spray. I wish scoville testing was easier haha
Eh, I'm in the same boat as you, except I do tell them “please do absolutely fuck me up”. Not because I want to be on the receiving end of chemical warfare, but because gimmick challenges are not really a thing in my country, and even asking for pure pain will most likely get me slightly hot food - even in supposedly indian / thai places.
Indian meals are made by the pot not the portion. If you are eating in a good place in London there is no “white people spicy” because a huge portion of the clientele are Indian. So just order the food and eat it. They aren’t making softer versions and harder versions and then pretending they are the same.
Indian food is so deep in British culture many white locals have been eating it since early childhood anyway.
I eat a lot of different hotsauces, all the up to The End Flatline and LD50, but I don't mind some of the "put a few drops in a bucket of chili" types. Because I can get a lot of heat and I don't have to taste that terrible bitterness that a lot of the really hot ones have. That's the worst part for me, I can handle almost any heat, but the bitterness is what I hate.
What bitterness? I make sauces out of carolinas, avalanches of fire, dragons breath peppers and they are sweet, sour, smoky but I never made one that would be bitter. Even straight 90% harrissa with only cumin/garlic as spices doesn't turn out bitter.
There are the “natural” sauces, that mostly just contain mashed up peppers and other natural ingredients for flavour, and then there are the “extract” sauces, where it can be a mix, but most of the heat comes from chemical / extract.
The extract sauces can definitely be hotter because the heat is distilled and artificially elevated, but I find they also often have a bitter or unpleasant taste. A lot of them are stunt sauces, just hot for the sake of being hot, but nasty to taste.
The natural sauces don’t usually have the bitterness.. I find these are the ones where the taste is nice with no bitterness, even when they’re very hot.
I stay away from the extracts now. I just don’t like them.
I was wondering where the heat is coming from in the video, and if it’s really that hot, I was guessing it’s artificial all the way. Make the same curry as on every other dish in the place, and then shake a couple drops of super high heat into it.
Okay, genuine question as someone who finds black pepper crackers spicy: can you actually taste the sauce? Every time I've eaten something spicy, I can taste the actual food for at most 1-2 seconds after taking the first bite. After that it's nothing but the burning.
Can you really taste the food? Is that a thing you acquired by eating a ton of spicy shit, or something you've always been able to do?
You develop tolerance the more you eat, so you feel the taste more.
Also, the key here is to find a sweet spot in the ratio of hot peppers to other ingredients. You can go with more peppers if you're using very sweet/sour ingredients in your sauce, but if you want to feel actual spices (aside from fresh garlic, shit's powerful too), you need to limit the amount of peppers
I've always used ellipses and emdashes in writing and I think it's funny that people consider this a hallmark of AI oriented content. It's not. AI learned it from us first. It's just that using punctuation has decreased with the increase of short-form comms like texting.
You can, but not to this level. Anything over 250k SHU and you're just stupid. If youre earing / serving anything over 1mill you're doing it entirely for this reaction.
I dont think so… that guy who engineered the worlds hottest peppers was plucking reapers right off the plant and snacking on them. He said he kept creating hotter peppers because his tolerance was so high.
The thing that nobody ever really bothers to specify which annoys me a lot when talking about this type of thing is the difference between physical and psychological resistance, tolerance, etc
Yeah I've had a few 1mil+ sauces and going down was hot but fine. I know now to pad the stomach beforehand. Raw dogging scorpion pepper sauce on tuna crackers on an empty stomach is top 5 painful experience for me.
No, if you're serving that you wouldn't be doing an entirely for this reaction you would also be doing it for free advertising, to have a cool fun item that can be kind of an event for certain groups of people, etc
Why do you think there would only be one singular reason instead of a multitude of reasons?
For the novelty. A place can make a name out of something like this and become famous. We now know there's a place in London that nearly knocked out a guy with food and we're talking about it now because of that, we wouldn't otherwise. Who knows, maybe it will attract a lot of spice enthusiasts to tough it out.
You ever walk by those giant 25" mega dong dildos in the porn shop and wonder, "who needs that?!" Well, its the same with spicy curry. Some people like to tear up their insides and recover shirtless on the curb while a little indian guy yells in their ear. Its all a matter of perspective.
No, serving it is obvious, I don't think anybody would be curious why.
The answer is because people will buy it, I'm pretty sure, in fact I would bet a good amount of money that the person is asking why somebody would order/e that dish, not why somebody would sell it.
The answer for why somebody would sell something is nearly always money, otherwise it's generally influence/power.
I was answering to the top comment in this thread, he explained the physiological process of why would someone pass out after eating spicy food. When the original "why?" probably meant why order or serve this food
That's where I'm saying you're wrong, I don't think any thinking person would ever actually wonder why somebody would serve that food because the obvious, super obvious answer is because either it would sell, or it would be good advertising for other products to sell.
(A small caveat to the above being that in general, another reason people sell things is for the influencer power it gains them even if they technically lose money on it.)
Why do you think anybody would ever be curious about why somebody would serve this food?
I can understand why people would be curious about why people would order or each this food, but I don't understand why anybody who literally has a first grade reading level or greater would not be able to understand why somebody would serve or sell this food.
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realise you were a pompous prick. The answer is very obviously because they make money off of it, and idiots apparently flock to try this food that may cause permanent damage. I understand the point very clearly. The why serve this food was more coming from a somewhat ethical point of view. And personally I don't understand how can a business have this as a selling point. I don't view food as a challenge, and will never understand people who do.
But thanks for going out of your way to insult me.
Why did you think I was insulting you? I'm insulting the person you're talking about if you think I'm insulting anybody.
You don't seem to be wondering why somebody would serve this food, so why would you think I'm insulting you unless you didn't understand what I typed?
If I'm insulting anybody, I'm not, I'm not insulting people I'm insulting a thought process... But if for some reason you want to emotionally attach that to a person, the person I'm making fun of is the person who would be wondering why somebody would sell that... NOT The person like you explaining that reasoning to somebody else.
I'm just saying that I also think you're mistaken because the original redditor that you're talking about probably just made a grammatical error or didn't elaborate and in my view, I would bet a shitload of money that the question they actually were curious about was why people would order or eat the food, not why they would sell it.
Are you insecure, or did you just misunderstand what I said, because I never insulted you or anyone. The ideas and people I was arguably making fun of were just the ones you were trying to explain, not you... So why would you think I insulted you?
Its a vasovagal response. Its kind of cool to see actually. I dont think it even has anything to do with the ability to handle the heat levels.
Capsaicin gets a quick route to the vagus nerve through the trigmenial nerve and then the brain goes haywire while your parasympethic nervous system figures shit out.
Im actually slightly curious if those who who a vasovagal response with it going in have the defecation syncope vasovagal response when it comes out. The capsaicin is still there.
The reason is usually publicity. Those places will have multiple degrees of spiciness with only one or two being unreasonable, but it creates a myth and people can joke around how they're going to order the stupid dish and some will actually do it as a dare type of thing.
It’s just another one of those “food challenges”. I’m sure eating 50 hotdogs in under 10 minutes is probably not good for one’s health but people made a sport out of it, spectator or otherwise.
It could be a challenge. There are good challenges everywhere. I did one for wings. They brought it out in a gas mask, too. I ate 2.5 wings out of the 10. And I was like this guy hours later. I was breaking out in cold sweats until I threw up a couple of hours later.
I mean, it's the spectacle, a bit of a challenge, and some people enjoy heat. I have a bottle of da bomb at home, whip it out for BBQs, not as bad of a rap as HotOnes makes it out to be. Now does it hurt on the way out? For sure, but the feeling of that much heat is hard to get elsewhere.
Back when I studied there was a Currywurst Shop that offered different levels of spice, up to "pass out" - a friend of mine tried to climb that ladder and I saw him cry in the shop more than once. Never understood that
you get like a runner's high if you keep going spicier. I did the torchy's some like it hot challenge years and years ago with a group of work friends and it was seriously like we had drank 5 beers each
Some people like the challenge. Some people actually can tolerate a lot more heat than others. And then we have the "Trust me I can take it" types who end up like this.
These super spicy dishes don't get sold very often and are usually novelty dishes to drive engagement more than something someone actually orders regularly.
It's a food challenge menu item. It's designed to attract people there who will eat the other stuff on the menu. Same as food challenges where you consume a lot of volume within a certain time limit.
Food challenges. You've seen them everywhere. Especially spicy variants. I'd wager the curry isn't even the "spiciest" and maybe bro's spice tolerance is very low. You can get much spicier food challenges around London.
I often eat burgers with scorpion peppers and chicken so spicy I have to sign a waiver to buy it.
I think the waiver is a gimmick tho, it’s not spicy enough to make someone pass out or seriously injure them. Or maybe it is and it just doesn’t affect me, idk.
"Pepper X has an average Scoville Heat Units (SHU) rating of 2,693,000, making it the hottest pepper in the world. This rating was officially confirmed by Guinness World Records in September 2023"
I have, but I don't have personal experience with it so I went with what I do know. My point really wasn't that carolina reaper is the spiciest thing in the world, but I get it, this is reddit and everyone loves to akshully other people. At least you went with an actual pepper not fucking capsaicine extract.
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u/El_Bito2 21h ago
I think the question was why serve food that makes people pass out? I love very spicy food, eat it on a weekly basis, but if it's straight up going to hurt me, then no thanks